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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby The Hound » Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:29 pm

Eagles2014 wrote:
The Myth wrote:Would have to be Sayers or Weeks from a playing point of view?


Heard Sayers was retiring. Was going to retire at end of last year, think he thought they may be Premiership chance this season so went on one more year. Weeks about to get contract extension as coach for few more years, whether he plays as much is up in the air. Certainly batting as well as he has for years, but his body is struggling and fielding major problem, especially when no slips required (he then comes off the field).


Might still walk away with a Premiership if they get up on Sunday :D
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby Eagles2014 » Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:41 pm

The Hound wrote:
Eagles2014 wrote:
The Myth wrote:Would have to be Sayers or Weeks from a playing point of view?


Heard Sayers was retiring. Was going to retire at end of last year, think he thought they may be Premiership chance this season so went on one more year. Weeks about to get contract extension as coach for few more years, whether he plays as much is up in the air. Certainly batting as well as he has for years, but his body is struggling and fielding major problem, especially when no slips required (he then comes off the field).


Might still walk away with a Premiership if they get up on Sunday :D


Was thinking of the ultimate which is the Two day comp, but yes, am hoping they do beat the World X1 on Sunday!
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby The Hound » Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:16 am

E2014, another debutant for you on the weekend?
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby Sonofbrowny25 » Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:48 am

Dogwatcher wrote:I hear a Port Adelaide player has announced his time at the club is complete.


ATCA getting and stronger with all these blokes leaving,
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby Tony Clifton » Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:11 pm

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Dogwatcher wrote:I hear a Port Adelaide player has announced his time at the club is complete.


ATCA getting and stronger with all these blokes leaving,

Is ATCA getting stronger overall? Saw a 55 year old take a bag of wickets in A1 earlier this season. That's only one game of course.

Is the general standard across the board improving? Seems like a couple of the standout teams are.
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby Eagles2014 » Fri Feb 23, 2018 3:05 pm

The Hound wrote:E2014, another debutant for you on the weekend?


Yes, young keeper from the B's, Eric Carrington. He was keeper in the State 15's last year. Don't think he can make it as a keeper, why when Drennan went home to QLD we went with Fisher, but he keeps making runs so deserves his opportunity.

Two seasons ago when we could not make finals, we gave couple of kids a go who were not ready, one was Bailey Capel. The experience just helps feel more comfortable next year, hopefully Eric can follow Bailey's path next year.
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby Tony Clifton » Fri Feb 23, 2018 3:10 pm

Carrington has certainly earned his spot looking at his B Grade scores. Nice to see kids promoted on potential AND performance, rather than just talent alone.
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby Lightning McQueen » Fri Feb 23, 2018 3:45 pm

Tony Clifton wrote:Carrington has certainly earned his spot looking at his B Grade scores. Nice to see kids promoted on potential AND performance, rather than just talent alone.

Averaging 14 in the C's but 88 in the B's, fair effort.

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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby The Myth » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:06 pm

There’s a couple of great games this weekend. Sturt v East Torrens and Woodville v Adelaide.
Is there anyway East Torrens can still make it?
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby Bulls forever » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:51 pm

heater31 wrote:
Bulls forever wrote:H31, as you are a respected poster, I suggest you update your information before throwing mud. An attack on our club is an attack on our leadership group and it has not been taken lying down. Suffice to say that a certain Pt Adel captain and coach have made their mistake and apologies have been made to our club captain.


Would suggest your leadership group start making efforts to improve the alleged perception that now hangs over your First Grade. My sources are about as close as you can get to the action and if TTG have nothing to hide then there should be no issues when inspections and observations take place. In my experience being polite and courteous to Umpires actually helps you in a game of cricket, being hostile towards them only increases your chances of 50/50 calls and stinkers going against you.....each to their own.


There seems to be disregard for the outcome H31, Weaver is one of the most respected captains and your reliable sources should acknowledge this, however Grade cricket is certainly not what it used to be. Only ET and Kensington boys actually come and have a drink after a game, although Northers B grade under Trent Pascoe made big effort on both days to socialise. So perceptions are garnered only from on field.

As for E2014 post, the cubicles are a dangerous place to listen then quote what you hear as fact. As for under achieving, listed in Oxford as "west Torrens 1950-2005" when you poached everyone and couldn't win, only when you "recruited" Thomas and Drennan who actually made runs under pressure did you win.

Freely admit 1 2 day short of where we should be, but Southern might disagree. However Weaver 11, Evans 11, Davey 10, B.Evans 10, Somerville 10, migHt disagree with your rant, but the Southern one still haunts them. Bottom line is they are still well in front of a keyboard / cubicle stalking warrior who obviously maxed out at Fulham gold u16's.
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby Eagles2014 » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:58 pm

The Myth wrote:There’s a couple of great games this weekend. Sturt v East Torrens and Woodville v Adelaide.
Is there anyway East Torrens can still make it?


If Adelaide and Sturt win this round then obviously the final four is set.

If Adelaide lose, but then they beat Kensington in final round they are safe in finals also.

East Torrens would then need to beat Sturt and Port in the final round, with one being an outright win. They would then jump over Sturt who have the Bye in final round.
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby Tony Clifton » Sat Feb 24, 2018 12:18 am

Amanda Wellington the Aussie leggie named in Port's B Grade tomorrow. Great to see. Interested to see how she goes.
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby Eagles2014 » Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:58 pm

Congrats to Port on beating the World X1 in the One Day GF today by 16 runs.

No doubt Benton would have won the medal, top scoring with 75 and 3/33.
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby mickey » Sun Feb 25, 2018 9:40 pm

Eagles2014 wrote:Congrats to Port on beating the World X1 in the One Day GF today by 16 runs.

No doubt Benton would have won the medal, top scoring with 75 and 3/33.
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby Tony Clifton » Mon Feb 26, 2018 7:10 am

The other one-time merger candidate gets a flag!

Clubs will be queuing up to merge now.
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:13 am

Tony Clifton wrote:Amanda Wellington the Aussie leggie named in Port's B Grade tomorrow. Great to see. Interested to see how she goes.

Was it a washout?
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby tigerfan11 » Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:15 am

I’m interested in knowing exactly which of these premiership players was an under /14 or 16 for port. I have weeks, Aussie, Reynolds, carter... not sure on Thomas, chatto (NT??) or McDonald. BENTON / dalgiesh / Kerr / sayers recruits. That’s only 35-50% of own juniors players. Kartas would have been a good in to play in this game, after getting a 100 on the Saturday.

I believe the 80/20 rule should apply to filling clubs 1st grade 11 each game... so maximum of 3 recruits outside of your club junior/country program per side. Uni should be required to go back to the original philosophy of Students of AU... but can still have 3 x non students/recruits per game. Which teams would fit this model today? Off the top of my head, most 11s would have the following non jnrs/ country zone:

Southerns (2-3 non juniors) - comack / mansale / ???
Glenelg (0??) maybe a DLCA or 2, but don’t know...
West Torrens (0??)
Sturt (3) - Dick / Sth African (name too hard) / Woods
Adelaide (0??) a DLCA or 2??
Kensington (3-4) - hose / white / Ross?? ACT / Frankie
Ttg (4-5) - gatting / Somerfield/ Hutchinson/ Page / Atkinson
Port (5-6) - as above
Uni (11 haha, but question is how many non student of AU, safe to say 6-8)
Woodville (3-4) - Neilson / Andrews / DICKMAN / DLCA???
Prospect (5-6) miller / McGreg-Baptist/ Cameron / DLCA / keen / cook??
Northerners - (2-3) Agnew / DLCA ?? / NZ bloke
East Torrens - (1-2) Zampa / DLCA?? Bit hard to recruit when no one likes playing with half the team

Be interesting to see if the all powerful SA premier cricket Comittee that is full of individual agendas would consider this. Montitoring it could’ve be given to a SACA comps rep, and clubs can report others to be checked...
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby Footy Smart » Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:26 am

tigerfan11 wrote:I’m interested in knowing exactly which of these premiership players was an under /14 or 16 for port. I have weeks, Aussie, Reynolds, carter... not sure on Thomas, chatto (NT??) or McDonald. BENTON / dalgiesh / Kerr / sayers recruits. That’s only 35-50% of own juniors players. Kartas would have been a good in to play in this game, after getting a 100 on the Saturday.

I believe the 80/20 rule should apply to filling clubs 1st grade 11 each game... so maximum of 3 recruits outside of your club junior/country program per side. Uni should be required to go back to the original philosophy of Students of AU... but can still have 3 x non students/recruits per game. Which teams would fit this model today? Off the top of my head, most 11s would have the following non jnrs/ country zone:

Southerns (2-3 non juniors) - comack / mansale / ???
Glenelg (0??) maybe a DLCA or 2, but don’t know...
West Torrens (0??)
Sturt (3) - Dick / Sth African (name too hard) / Woods
Adelaide (0??) a DLCA or 2??
Kensington (3-4) - hose / white / Ross?? ACT / Frankie
Ttg (4-5) - gatting / Somerfield/ Hutchinson/ Page / Atkinson
Port (5-6) - as above
Uni (11 haha, but question is how many non student of AU, safe to say 6-8)
Woodville (3-4) - Neilson / Andrews / DICKMAN / DLCA???
Prospect (5-6) miller / McGreg-Baptist/ Cameron / DLCA / keen / cook??
Northerners - (2-3) Agnew / DLCA ?? / NZ bloke
East Torrens - (1-2) Zampa / DLCA?? Bit hard to recruit when no one likes playing with half the team

Be interesting to see if the all powerful SA premier cricket Comittee that is full of individual agendas would consider this. Montitoring it could’ve be given to a SACA comps rep, and clubs can report others to be checked...


While I agree in some respects, a certain level of consideration needs to be given to other circumstances.

I can only talk re TTG - from my recollection

Sommerfield had a connection to TTG via his brother Jamie who played numerous seasons
Atkinson - his brother came to club from Mildura (currently captaining the 4s) as he moved into the area - Ben followed a yer later
Page - family moved to area (he went to a Northerns and TTG training and chose us)
Gatts - fell in lap this year
Hutchy - probably the only one who was 'pursued' by Sounda a few years back
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby am Bays » Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:29 am

Chatts definately from the NT.

Chappell set up a relationship with NT cricket when he was coach in the the early 00s to give NT cricketers a pathway to first class cricket given they have no 1st class side and aren't about to get one.

Cook, Chatto, Richards. Dilly have all been at Port in the last 10 years. McNally, Skewes, Andrews Dickman at Woodville. Dick at Sturt, Weathers at Uni.
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby Tony Clifton » Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:37 am

It's a complicated question and all clubs are not on a level playing field.

Some clubs have a really strong metro zone with lots of schools and community clubs playing cricket. They have heaps to choose from and their junior teams are usually strong.

Other clubs have smaller metro zones or diverse zones, with lots of families from overseas who are not familiar with cricket. Very few schools playing, not many community clubs. Much tougher for these clubs to put out strong junior teams.

Then you add in the country zones. They are all different sizes and strength. Some areas have a strong cricket culture, others are battling for numbers. Some are 4+ hours drive away and realistically players are not going to travel each week. Other country zones are <2 hours away so the kids can play each week and become part of the grade club rather than just playing cameos.

The 'have nots' need to recruit more heavily than the clubs who have heaps of decent juniors coming through. That's just how it is. You'd have to say that Woodville for instance have had a positive impact on Nielsen as a cricketer, even though he is technically a recruit. Same with Page at TTG, Dalton at Kensington

You're never going to get it exactly even. Demographics are so varied and always changing. I did think that it would have made sense for clubs with perennially weaker metro zones to be aligned with the stronger/closer country zones though. This is how the SANFL do it.
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