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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby daysofourlives » Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:47 pm

Booney wrote:
bertiebeatle wrote:I agree with Booney with how our defence press forward and put the ball back inside 50, but surprised with the below. Pittard the first defender on that list and came in 12th

2017 Port Adelaide Total Inside 50s Leaders (Minimum 5 Games Played)
Rank Name Games Total
1 Brad Ebert 23 101
2 Jared Polec 22 98
3 Oliver Wines 23 97
4 Chad Wingard 19 94
5 Charlie Dixon 23 80
6 Sam Gray 23 76
7 Travis Boak 22 70
8 Patrick Ryder 22 68
9 Sam Powell-Pepper 22 66
10 Robbie Gray 23 62
11 Jarman Impey 20 61
12 Jasper Pittard 17 52


When the ball is I50 our mids push up, but not too far, they hold between the F50 line and the middle, this still allows some space I50 if ( and as it was last year ) when we go back in for repeat entries. The defenders are between the middle and the D50, that's why none of them really got involved with too many I50's.

It's the exact reason we saw Dixon or Gray or Wingard 1 on 2 or even 1 on 3. Balls goes in, fumble about, ball comes out, midfield are holding outside 50, ball goes back in there's 4 Port forwards and 381 defenders, ball comes back out repeat.

We need to make sure that first entry is as rewarding as it can be.


Exactly, and would be far more beneficial to get some free goals from F50 pressure than let it go out and have it come back in again to the 381 defenders you already mentioned. Interesting that no other premiership teams of recent times have had this game plan.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby bertiebeatle » Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:50 pm

Booney wrote:
bertiebeatle wrote:I agree with Booney with how our defence press forward and put the ball back inside 50, but surprised with the below. Pittard the first defender on that list and came in 12th

2017 Port Adelaide Total Inside 50s Leaders (Minimum 5 Games Played)
Rank Name Games Total
1 Brad Ebert 23 101
2 Jared Polec 22 98
3 Oliver Wines 23 97
4 Chad Wingard 19 94
5 Charlie Dixon 23 80
6 Sam Gray 23 76
7 Travis Boak 22 70
8 Patrick Ryder 22 68
9 Sam Powell-Pepper 22 66
10 Robbie Gray 23 62
11 Jarman Impey 20 61
12 Jasper Pittard 17 52


When the ball is I50 our mids push up, but not too far, they hold between the F50 line and the middle, this still allows some space I50 if ( and as it was last year ) when we go back in for repeat entries. The defenders are between the middle and the D50, that's why none of them really got involved with too many I50's.

It's the exact reason we saw Dixon or Gray or Wingard 1 on 2 or even 1 on 3. Balls goes in, fumble about, ball comes out, midfield are holding outside 50, ball goes back in there's 4 Port forwards and 381 defenders, ball comes back out repeat.

We need to make sure that first entry is as rewarding as it can be.


Yep fair. Liked our forward structure yesterday having Dixon & Watts deep and space in front of them with the smalls getting out of the way. Can tell that there is an emphasis on quick ball movement to get it in there so they can execute that plan rathar than it becoming a contested possession fight in our forward 50. Would think we would have Dixon and a Gray or Wingard with him so Watts can be one of the blokes delivering it into them
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby morell » Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:08 pm

Our forward structure resulted in 8 goals.

That's nowhere near enough for a forward line with that amount of talent.

I'd rather have less useless repeat entries and... more quality options and goals.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby The Bedge » Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:50 pm

morell wrote:Our forward structure resulted in 8 goals.

That's nowhere near enough for a forward line with that amount of talent.

I'd rather have less useless repeat entries and... more quality options and goals.

Missing Rockliff/Wingard up forward and can’t recall Gray being up there much, also the game was a pretty dour contest after half time, so perhaps best to wait and get a larger sample size first.

Also, on a different topic, was it just me or did the ground appear smaller than most?
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby The Bedge » Mon Feb 26, 2018 8:05 pm

How does the suspension work? Can Gray play in the rest of the JLT and misses Rd 1, or doesn’t he have to sit out remaining trial games?
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby Wedgie » Mon Feb 26, 2018 8:16 pm

Booney wrote:If it only costs us $10,000 I'd be appealing it, I'd be asking is it really "medium impact"?

I wouldn't have thought it "medium impact". ( There is low, medium, high and severe ).


PORT Adelaide star Robbie Gray is set to miss the Power's opening round clash against Fremantle at Adelaide Oval after being slapped with a one-match suspension for rough conduct.

Gray was charged by match review officer Michael Christian for his high bump on West Coast's Jeremy McGovern, with the hit graded as careless conduct with medium impact to the head.

The Power can challenge the suspension at the Tribunal on Tuesday night and risk a $10,000 fine, rather than an extra week on the sidelines under the new judicial system introduced for 2018.

Agreed fully, the impact couldnt have been any lighter, if it was any heavier McGovern would have sufered a fracture.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby CoverKing » Mon Feb 26, 2018 8:35 pm

has to be medium impact since McGovern went off for the game as a result of the heat for sure.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby Wedgie » Mon Feb 26, 2018 8:48 pm

CoverKing wrote:has to be medium impact since McGovern went off for the game as a result of the heat for sure.

If it was medium impact McGovern would be out for 4 weeks.
If thats games than all bumps are too as most bumps are a stronger impact, just in a different spot.

Perhaps time to scientifically measure the impact in kilos per square centremeter as impact measurement should not be skewed by players staying off in trial games or playjng on, its a ridiculous and illogical concept.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby Wedgie » Mon Feb 26, 2018 8:50 pm

Booney wrote:Image

Hip and shoulders are medium to high impact to the body and intentional,
According to this table all hip and shoulders should result in 1 to 2 games to players. Nice one AFL.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby bennymacca » Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:28 pm

The impact is dependent on the result. If they get up the force is deemed insufficient. If they are mildly concussed it’s medium. Knocked out its high.

Not really that hard to understand.

At least it’s somewhat transparent what the penalties are - of course we will still argue about the severity of the impact though
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby MW » Tue Feb 27, 2018 7:46 am

Yeah not sure why everyone is getting upset over this one. Looks a clear 1 week suspension watching it. One player went for the ball, one player went for the man.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby Booney » Tue Feb 27, 2018 8:06 am

Wedgie wrote:Hip and shoulders are medium to high impact to the body and intentional,
According to this table all hip and shoulders should result in 1 to 2 games to players. Nice one AFL.


2 games for a bump! Welcome to AFL in 2025... :D
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby MW » Tue Feb 27, 2018 8:15 am

Booney wrote:
Wedgie wrote:Hip and shoulders are medium to high impact to the body and intentional,
According to this table all hip and shoulders should result in 1 to 2 games to players. Nice one AFL.


2 games for a bump to the head! Welcome to AFL in 2025... :D


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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby Booney » Tue Feb 27, 2018 8:27 am

MW wrote:
Booney wrote:
Wedgie wrote:Hip and shoulders are medium to high impact to the body and intentional,
According to this table all hip and shoulders should result in 1 to 2 games to players. Nice one AFL.


2 games for a bump to the head! Welcome to AFL in 2025... :D


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Fair call, it was to the head. Precedence has been set, be interesting watching the new system unfold now we've got a marker to check against.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby hawks21 » Tue Feb 27, 2018 8:31 am

Booney wrote:
Wedgie wrote:Hip and shoulders are medium to high impact to the body and intentional,
According to this table all hip and shoulders should result in 1 to 2 games to players. Nice one AFL.


2 games for a bump! Welcome to AFL in 2025... :D

Not sure why the afl public is so torn on this one. This sort of 'bump' has been getting games for several years now (rightly or wrongly) under the past couple of MRP's
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby MW » Tue Feb 27, 2018 8:36 am

Booney wrote:
MW wrote:
Booney wrote:
Wedgie wrote:Hip and shoulders are medium to high impact to the body and intentional,
According to this table all hip and shoulders should result in 1 to 2 games to players. Nice one AFL.


2 games for a bump to the head! Welcome to AFL in 2025... :D


EFA


Fair call, it was to the head. Precedence has been set, be interesting watching the new system unfold now we've got a marker to check against.


Yeah marker has been there for a few years now. AFL is spooked by what is happening with the class action against NFL with concussions.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby David Brent » Tue Feb 27, 2018 9:12 am

Booney wrote:
MW wrote:
Booney wrote:
Wedgie wrote:Hip and shoulders are medium to high impact to the body and intentional,
According to this table all hip and shoulders should result in 1 to 2 games to players. Nice one AFL.


2 games for a bump to the head! Welcome to AFL in 2025... :D


EFA


Fair call, it was to the head. Precedence has been set, be interesting watching the new system unfold now we've got a marker to check against.


Anyone else think were nearly at the stage where if you are subbed off with the concussion rule then should be ruled out for the next week no matter what to provide rest?

I think the AFL could bring back the sub but if a player is subbed out of the game for injury they are automatically ruled out the next week.
If you can keep your head when all around you have lost theirs, then you probably haven't understood the seriousness of the situation.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Feb 27, 2018 9:30 am

David Brent wrote:
Fair call, it was to the head. Precedence has been set, be interesting watching the new system unfold now we've got a marker to check against.


Anyone else think were nearly at the stage where if you are subbed off with the concussion rule then should be ruled out for the next week no matter what to provide rest?

I think the AFL could bring back the sub but if a player is subbed out of the game for injury they are automatically ruled out the next week.[/quote]
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby carey » Tue Feb 27, 2018 9:48 am

We could always just leave the game alone?
you've gota keep on keep'n on .........
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby Booney » Tue Feb 27, 2018 9:55 am

carey wrote:We could always just leave the game alone?


First time in years there's been no rule / interpretations changes this year....watch them unload new shit next year!
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