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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby MW » Fri Mar 16, 2018 12:19 pm

I find it astounding that you want them out of the SANFL at any cost, yet want compensation for them playing in another league.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Pseudo » Fri Mar 16, 2018 12:48 pm

MW wrote:I find it astounding that you want them out of the SANFL at any cost, yet want compensation for them playing in another league.


How about compensation for breaking the 15-year contract?

Not that I would expect the tossrags at the SANFL to pursue any compensation in the event that the garbage actually did exit the league before the contract was complete.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Booney » Fri Mar 16, 2018 12:49 pm

MW wrote:I find it astounding that you want them out of the SANFL at any cost, yet want compensation for them playing in another league.


I'm astounded you're astounded by anything he says. :lol:
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby UK Fan » Fri Mar 16, 2018 12:53 pm

MW wrote:I find it astounding that you want them out of the SANFL at any cost, yet want compensation for them playing in another league.


Oh no a complete crows nerd finds it astounding I want to keep the afl accountable.

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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby MW » Fri Mar 16, 2018 12:54 pm

Pseudo wrote:
MW wrote:I find it astounding that you want them out of the SANFL at any cost, yet want compensation for them playing in another league.


How about compensation for breaking the 15-year contract?

Not that I would expect the tossrags at the SANFL to pursue any compensation in the event that the garbage actually did exit the league before the contract was complete.


so let me see if I have this right...
1. You want them out of the SANFL at any cost
2. AFL are planning to get out of SANFL
3. You want compensation because they are breaking a 15 year contract
4. If they stay and honour the contract, revert back to step 1.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby MW » Fri Mar 16, 2018 12:55 pm

UK Fan wrote:
MW wrote:I find it astounding that you want them out of the SANFL at any cost, yet want compensation for them playing in another league.


Oh no a complete crows nerd finds it astounding I want to keep the afl accountable.

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accountable for removing themselves from a toxic environment that you don't want them in in the first place
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Booney » Fri Mar 16, 2018 12:57 pm

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MW wrote:I find it astounding that you want them out of the SANFL at any cost, yet want compensation for them playing in another league.

How about compensation for breaking the 15-year contract?


Pretty sure the contract is termed as being reviewed annually by the SANFL which, given an AFL reserves competition, the SANFL would terminate the deal at the end of the year as the AFL would tell them to.

Other than that IIRC there's a 12 month clause for all parties involved to terminate the deal.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby UK Fan » Fri Mar 16, 2018 12:58 pm

MW wrote:
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MW wrote:I find it astounding that you want them out of the SANFL at any cost, yet want compensation for them playing in another league.


Oh no a complete crows nerd finds it astounding I want to keep the afl accountable.

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accountable for removing themselves from a toxic environment that you don't want them in in the first place
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If they dissolve you can bugger of for free.

Leave us and break a contract That guarantees the clubs $400k and go to another league that will compete with SANFL. Well that’s gonna cost ya imho!!!


But we all know the spineless sanfl will just roll over.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Booney » Fri Mar 16, 2018 1:01 pm

So we're talking losses to the SANFL of $400,000 from Adelaide's pocket and $1m from sponsors related to the C7 deal, is that about right?
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Pseudo » Fri Mar 16, 2018 1:03 pm

MW wrote:
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MW wrote:I find it astounding that you want them out of the SANFL at any cost, yet want compensation for them playing in another league.


How about compensation for breaking the 15-year contract?

Not that I would expect the tossrags at the SANFL to pursue any compensation in the event that the garbage actually did exit the league before the contract was complete.


so let me see if I have this right...
1. You want them out of the SANFL at any cost
2. AFL are planning to get out of SANFL
3. You want compensation because they are breaking a 15 year contract
4. If they stay and honour the contract, revert back to step 1.


Personally, I want the garbage out of the league without condtion or qualification.

Nevertheless if the Clowns leave themselves in a legally questionable position then I say screw 'em for all they've got. Continuing to honour their agreement and pay each of the dinkum clubs $50K a year for the next decade might go some way to undoing the damage that their presence has wrought on the competition.

The Smears, OTOH, would seem to owe the SANFL nothing. Kick 'em out and be done with it.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Hazydog » Fri Mar 16, 2018 1:09 pm

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Panther Pack wrote:The AFL was always going to introduce a reserves competition as some stage it was just a matter of when.

I'm excited that the SANFL will no longer have the AFL teams involved in the competition.

I think this is a great opportunity for the SANFL to once again market itself as its own league without AFL involvement and could potentially bring disgruntled supporters back to clubs.

Its the next generation that will kill off the SANFL. No one under 25 really follows it now unless they know someone playing. No port or crows will mean no interest from kids and now they can see their reserve players before the league game they have no reason to look at the sanfl. Where are top up players coming from or if they increase list size. Standard will drop then even less interest from younger fans

True point about the lack of kids' interest, although Port and Crows kids are not flocking to watch the up and coming players in the SANFL. This is ultimately a policy question for the SANFL and clubs to work out how and where to position itself. It's probably it's most challenging task going forward.

The SANFL comp may dissolve, weaken, or even die in time. So be it, better to die on its feet than live in its knees.

You know, there could even be spot available for Carlton to join the SANFL if they continue their perpetual lapse into irrelevance. ;)


Carlton no...Port Melbourne on the other hand...?? Seriously though, as good as this news is for the true SANFL fans, it raises the question of where does it leave the likes of Port Melbourne and the other one or two stand alone clubs currently in the VFL.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Booney » Fri Mar 16, 2018 1:18 pm

Hazydog wrote:
Carlton no...Port Melbourne on the other hand...?? Seriously though, as good as this news is for the true SANFL fans, it raises the question of where does it leave the likes of Port Melbourne and the other one or two stand alone clubs currently in the VFL.


Where does it leave the likes of Glenelg and West who could lose, immediately, $100k+ from their bottom line ( $50k from Adelaide and whatever they get from sponsors through the C7 deal ).
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Jim05 » Fri Mar 16, 2018 1:20 pm

Booney wrote:
Hazydog wrote:
Carlton no...Port Melbourne on the other hand...?? Seriously though, as good as this news is for the true SANFL fans, it raises the question of where does it leave the likes of Port Melbourne and the other one or two stand alone clubs currently in the VFL.


Where does it leave the likes of Glenelg and West who could lose, immediately, $100k+ from their bottom line ( $50k from Adelaide and whatever they get from sponsors through the C7 deal ).

But aren’t these clubs forking over money for TV coverage only for the broadcasters to mainly show the 2 AFL reserves sides?
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Jim05 » Fri Mar 16, 2018 1:21 pm

Hazydog wrote:
Magellan wrote:
beef wrote:
Panther Pack wrote:The AFL was always going to introduce a reserves competition as some stage it was just a matter of when.

I'm excited that the SANFL will no longer have the AFL teams involved in the competition.

I think this is a great opportunity for the SANFL to once again market itself as its own league without AFL involvement and could potentially bring disgruntled supporters back to clubs.

Its the next generation that will kill off the SANFL. No one under 25 really follows it now unless they know someone playing. No port or crows will mean no interest from kids and now they can see their reserve players before the league game they have no reason to look at the sanfl. Where are top up players coming from or if they increase list size. Standard will drop then even less interest from younger fans

True point about the lack of kids' interest, although Port and Crows kids are not flocking to watch the up and coming players in the SANFL. This is ultimately a policy question for the SANFL and clubs to work out how and where to position itself. It's probably it's most challenging task going forward.

The SANFL comp may dissolve, weaken, or even die in time. So be it, better to die on its feet than live in its knees.

You know, there could even be spot available for Carlton to join the SANFL if they continue their perpetual lapse into irrelevance. ;)


Carlton no...Port Melbourne on the other hand...?? Seriously though, as good as this news is for the true SANFL fans, it raises the question of where does it leave the likes of Port Melbourne and the other one or two stand alone clubs currently in the VFL.

Already interest from VAFA clubs to join a new VFL
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby UK Fan » Fri Mar 16, 2018 1:24 pm

Booney wrote:
Hazydog wrote:
Carlton no...Port Melbourne on the other hand...?? Seriously though, as good as this news is for the true SANFL fans, it raises the question of where does it leave the likes of Port Melbourne and the other one or two stand alone clubs currently in the VFL.


Where does it leave the likes of Glenelg and West who could lose, immediately, $100k+ from their bottom line ( $50k from Adelaide and whatever they get from sponsors through the C7 deal ).



MW and BennyMac ???? Caught up yet
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby MW » Fri Mar 16, 2018 1:26 pm

Caught up to what? That the AFL sides being in the SANFL is a big financial win for the SANFL clubs?
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby StrayDog » Fri Mar 16, 2018 1:28 pm

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:
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mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Anyone hear Ruccis dummy spit at Roy's open letter on wednesday arvo??


Is that the bit about "Centrals need to stop being part of the problem?".
Something along the lines of
'We know what the problems are Roy, we need solutions blah blah blah....and all i hear from Centrals is whinge, whinge, whinge

But Centrals to their credit (with South) voted against it....they can whinge as much as they like.

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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby therisingblues » Fri Mar 16, 2018 1:29 pm

Pseudo wrote:
MW wrote:
Pseudo wrote:
MW wrote:I find it astounding that you want them out of the SANFL at any cost, yet want compensation for them playing in another league.


How about compensation for breaking the 15-year contract?

Not that I would expect the tossrags at the SANFL to pursue any compensation in the event that the garbage actually did exit the league before the contract was complete.


so let me see if I have this right...
1. You want them out of the SANFL at any cost
2. AFL are planning to get out of SANFL
3. You want compensation because they are breaking a 15 year contract
4. If they stay and honour the contract, revert back to step 1.


Personally, I want the garbage out of the league without condtion or qualification.

Nevertheless if the Clowns leave themselves in a legally questionable position then I say screw 'em for all they've got. Continuing to honour their agreement and pay each of the dinkum clubs $50K a year for the next decade might go some way to undoing the damage that their presence has wrought on the competition.

The Smears, OTOH, would seem to owe the SANFL nothing. Kick 'em out and be done with it.

And THAT my friends is the sound of a nail head getting smashed very hard.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby MW » Fri Mar 16, 2018 1:31 pm

So lets have some AFL in the SANFL, just not too much!
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Wedgie » Fri Mar 16, 2018 1:31 pm

MW wrote:Caught up to what? That the AFL sides being in the SANFL is a big financial win for the SANFL clubs?

LOL, now you're just trolling.
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