amber_fluid wrote:Spargo wrote:“Big club”
Cute isn’t it mate
Comedy value.
by Spargo » Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:15 pm
amber_fluid wrote:Spargo wrote:“Big club”
Cute isn’t it mate
by morell » Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:20 pm
Please don't ruin the fantasy of Port's 3rds rolling through a bunch of puny SANFL clubs.whufc wrote:morell wrote:Dutchy wrote:bennymacca wrote:Do any of us actually know the contract the afl teams signed when joining the SANFL?
It’s not hard to imagine there was a clause in there about a national reserves competition, or something similar.
Then we could all be arguing about nothing?
Port and Crows signed a contract to play in the SANFL until 2028, with an annual review and only the SANFL can cancel the contract so they cannot move without making arrangements/agreement with the SANFL.
I can't believe no one has asked why Tanunda played PNU at Port Wakefield!
This is true, but there would be nothing stopping Port fielding our academy side in the SANFL and our Reserves in the new AFL Ressies comp.
Spoke to someone at the SANFL and the apparently the contract is clear in that it states reserves team must play in the SANFL. Under definition it states reserves side as must being the players who were on the AFL list and not selected therefore they would need to play those blokes in the SANFL.
by morell » Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:21 pm
Spargo wrote:amber_fluid wrote:Spargo wrote:“Big club”
Cute isn’t it mate
Comedy value.
by Spargo » Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:25 pm
morell wrote:Spargo wrote:amber_fluid wrote:Spargo wrote:“Big club”
Cute isn’t it mate
Comedy value.
Says the Norf and Bays fan! Hahahah that's comedic value. Even if you merged those clubs you still wouldn't be our size.
#puny
by morell » Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:29 pm
by amber_fluid » Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:33 pm
by RB » Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:33 pm
UK Fan wrote:jo172 wrote:John, criticising others for not contributing to the debate when both you and UK Fan have refused to engage with a couple of pretty simple concepts in:
- World Series Cricket occurring despite a "governing body"
- the possibility of people being able to organise private leagues (despite the obvious logistic difficulties; and
- the anti-competitive conduct provisions in Competition and Consumer Law Act.
Did Aussie cricketers sign a 15 year commitment to the acb before World Series cricket started ??
If not irrelevant.
The afl arent a private league
Irrelevant
Who is going to take us for being anti competitive ??the afl port or crows
Good luck with that
by Spargo » Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:36 pm
morell wrote:Never said we were a big club in the AFL, just a big club, which in the context of safooty.net and this discussion, we are.
We're a national club in a national competition with significant resources and budget. I'd be confident, if we wanted to, in being able to field three teams. AFL, AFL Reserves and our C Grade in the SANFL
by Jim05 » Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:36 pm
Please don't ruin the fantasy of Port's 3rds rolling through a bunch of puny SANFL clubs.[/quote]morell wrote:whufc wrote:morell wrote:Dutchy wrote:[quote="bennymacca"]Do any of us actually know the contract the afl teams signed when joining the SANFL?
It’s not hard to imagine there was a clause in there about a national reserves competition, or something similar.
Then we could all be arguing about nothing?
Port and Crows signed a contract to play in the SANFL until 2028, with an annual review and only the SANFL can cancel the contract so they cannot move without making arrangements/agreement with the SANFL.
I can't believe no one has asked why Tanunda played PNU at Port Wakefield!
This is true, but there would be nothing stopping Port fielding our academy side in the SANFL and our Reserves in the new AFL Ressies comp.
Spoke to someone at the SANFL and the apparently the contract is clear in that it states reserves team must play in the SANFL. Under definition it states reserves side as must being the players who were on the AFL list and not selected therefore they would need to play those blokes in the SANFL.
by morell » Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:40 pm
Oh how the mighty have fallen. I remember the days where you blokes used to compete with Port's first grade!Jim05 wrote:Your 2nds haven’t been able to get the job done yet
by morell » Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:43 pm
RB wrote:UK Fan wrote:jo172 wrote:John, criticising others for not contributing to the debate when both you and UK Fan have refused to engage with a couple of pretty simple concepts in:
- World Series Cricket occurring despite a "governing body"
- the possibility of people being able to organise private leagues (despite the obvious logistic difficulties; and
- the anti-competitive conduct provisions in Competition and Consumer Law Act.
Did Aussie cricketers sign a 15 year commitment to the acb before World Series cricket started ??
If not irrelevant.
The afl arent a private league
Irrelevant
Who is going to take us for being anti competitive ??the afl port or crows
Good luck with that
Of course the AFL are a private league. It might get an enormous amount of exposure, and attract mass audiences, but it's still a private league. It has the right to determine its membership and do anything it damn well likes, within the law.
I agree that it's a moot point given that contractual agreements between the AFL, its clubs and the SANFL (or SAFC etc.) probably provide for this situation, but I find it utterly bewildering that grown adults don't understand that the SANFL has no real governing authority over football in this state. OK sure, due to its size, finance, history, and affiliations it has some de facto power over the administration of footy in SA, but to suggest that the AFL needs the SANFL's permission to schedule games here (except obviously on land owned by the SANFL), otherwise than where required under a contract, is ludicrous.
I think people on here know my thoughts about the AFL reserves sides, and I would be personally happy to see the back of the cancers ASAP, with or without compensation, but when someone makes stupid remarks I'm gonna call them out for what they are...
by morell » Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:47 pm
by Spargo » Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:49 pm
by Dutchy » Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:17 pm
morell wrote:
Now our seconds havent quite managed to win an SANFL GF despite making two and you're gloating. Deary me.
by Jim05 » Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:22 pm
morell wrote:Oh how the mighty have fallen. I remember the days where you blokes used to compete with Port's first grade!Jim05 wrote:Your 2nds haven’t been able to get the job done yet
Now our seconds havent quite managed to win an SANFL GF despite making two and you're gloating. Deary me.
by morell » Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:25 pm
Jim05 wrote:morell wrote:Oh how the mighty have fallen. I remember the days where you blokes used to compete with Port's first grade!Jim05 wrote:Your 2nds haven’t been able to get the job done yet
Now our seconds havent quite managed to win an SANFL GF despite making two and you're gloating. Deary me.
Give us a $14m salary cap and I’m sure we would give you a run
All jokes aside you had outgrown the SANFL and the club had to go into the AFL to move forward.
A clean break from the SANFL back then would of been so much better for all parties
by LMA » Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:43 pm
by therisingblues » Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:38 am
LMA wrote:Agreed Port should of left when going into the AFL but the SANFL didn't want to lose it's biggest commodity.
Interesting if they had have left if we would still hear the same froff about Port not being Port
by johntheclaret » Wed Mar 21, 2018 4:51 am
morell wrote:RB wrote:UK Fan wrote:jo172 wrote:John, criticising others for not contributing to the debate when both you and UK Fan have refused to engage with a couple of pretty simple concepts in:
- World Series Cricket occurring despite a "governing body"
- the possibility of people being able to organise private leagues (despite the obvious logistic difficulties; and
- the anti-competitive conduct provisions in Competition and Consumer Law Act.
Did Aussie cricketers sign a 15 year commitment to the acb before World Series cricket started ??
If not irrelevant.
The afl arent a private league
Irrelevant
Who is going to take us for being anti competitive ??the afl port or crows
Good luck with that
Of course the AFL are a private league. It might get an enormous amount of exposure, and attract mass audiences, but it's still a private league. It has the right to determine its membership and do anything it damn well likes, within the law.
I agree that it's a moot point given that contractual agreements between the AFL, its clubs and the SANFL (or SAFC etc.) probably provide for this situation, but I find it utterly bewildering that grown adults don't understand that the SANFL has no real governing authority over football in this state. OK sure, due to its size, finance, history, and affiliations it has some de facto power over the administration of footy in SA, but to suggest that the AFL needs the SANFL's permission to schedule games here (except obviously on land owned by the SANFL), otherwise than where required under a contract, is ludicrous.
I think people on here know my thoughts about the AFL reserves sides, and I would be personally happy to see the back of the cancers ASAP, with or without compensation, but when someone makes stupid remarks I'm gonna call them out for what they are...
100% spot on
UK Fan and johntheclaret read this then read it again.
by johntheclaret » Wed Mar 21, 2018 6:01 am
morell wrote:Oh how the mighty have fallen. I remember the days where you blokes used to compete with Port's first grade!Jim05 wrote:Your 2nds haven’t been able to get the job done yet
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