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Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

Postby Corona Man » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:50 am

Got a pommie bloke here in the factory at work, gave him a bit of stick during the Ashes..... he just dropped a few sheets of sandpaper on my desk. Touche.
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Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

Postby bennymacca » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:50 am

Brodlach wrote:Other countries have taint on them for being dishonest, we don’t.... until now


Except for all those other times we have been dishonest too (Warne and Waugh for starters)
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Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

Postby Jack » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:52 am

The first dismissal Australias second innings

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Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

Postby Corona Man » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:56 am

Jack wrote:The first dismissal Australias second innings

BALL TAMPERER RUN OUT BY BALL TAMPERER


Sounds like the Mardi Gras in Sydney.
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Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

Postby MW » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:57 am

bennymacca wrote:
MW wrote:I'm not saying its ok cause they are Australian. I am saying to all the other countries taking shots, have a look in your own backyards before slinging shit at us.
We are the only country who will deal with this properly, regardless of the wet lettuce leaf approach by the ICC.


Deal with it properly? We have a history of dealing out soft penalties


example?
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Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

Postby whufc » Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:05 am

Not certain it will happen but really hope CA lead the way and set an example to world cricket that cheating is not tolerated.

I would be comfortable if each of the players involved received a 12 month ban
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Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

Postby Dogwatcher » Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:06 am

MW wrote:
bennymacca wrote:
MW wrote:I'm not saying its ok cause they are Australian. I am saying to all the other countries taking shots, have a look in your own backyards before slinging shit at us.
We are the only country who will deal with this properly, regardless of the wet lettuce leaf approach by the ICC.


Deal with it properly? We have a history of dealing out soft penalties


example?


Warney - magic weight pills.
Warney/Waugh - money from match fixers.
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Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

Postby MW » Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:07 am

Dogwatcher wrote:
MW wrote:
bennymacca wrote:
MW wrote:I'm not saying its ok cause they are Australian. I am saying to all the other countries taking shots, have a look in your own backyards before slinging shit at us.
We are the only country who will deal with this properly, regardless of the wet lettuce leaf approach by the ICC.


Deal with it properly? We have a history of dealing out soft penalties


example?


Warney - magic weight pills.
Warney/Waugh - money from match fixers.


I am aware of those incidents, example of being soft on penalties? Warne got one year suspension ffs
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Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

Postby Brodlach » Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:08 am

Steve Smith due back in Australia this afternoon
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Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

Postby Jim05 » Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:08 am

whufc wrote:Not certain it will happen but really hope CA lead the way and set an example to world cricket that cheating is not tolerated.

I would be comfortable if each of the players involved received a 12 month ban

3-6 months is more than enough.
CA also needs to grow a pair and tell the ASC and politicians to STFU
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Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:09 am

FlyingHigh wrote:Trust is the big issue. How are we going to feel watching Smith or Warner walk out to bat next summer, hit a four, score a ton? One of the bowlers come on and produce a match-winning spell when it looks like not much is happening?

Should they be banned forever? No. Match-fixing is still the ultimate in that regard. ICC penalties are ordinary, but then we know what a disgrace that organisation is. 12 month bans would be about right IMO.

To me it sort of feels like the Rebel tours in the '80's - perhaps some older posters can comment a bit more on that. Our trust has been violated but in a couple years time we will be accepting these players for their talents as players, even if it is slightly guarded or not the way we once looked at them.

Regarding the restructuring of the leadership, I think there also needs to be a restructuring of the schedule. Warner and a couple of others in NZ right up till the start of the tour? Do the players get out amongst the schools and communities much anymore, either in Australia or South Africa? To me there should be some sort of requirement. I said to a non-cricketing mate about 20 years ago I felt cricketers cared more deeply about the game as a whole at all levels (this was around the time Taylor was captain and there was the suggestion of industrial action) whilst AFL footballers were more in it for themselves. After the last few years, especially with the advent of IPL and BigBash etc, I'm not sure that is the case anymore. :(


I never felt anything bad towards the Rebel tour, was basically a bunch of hasbeens and blokes not getting a gig for their country at the time. Aussie cricket was full of controversy in the late 70's early 80's anyway.

They did their time and a few represented their country later on, interestingly enough, Trevor Hohns was part of the tour :shock:
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Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

Postby Brodlach » Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:10 am

Jim05 wrote:
whufc wrote:Not certain it will happen but really hope CA lead the way and set an example to world cricket that cheating is not tolerated.

I would be comfortable if each of the players involved received a 12 month ban

3-6 months is more than enough.
CA also needs to grow a pair and tell the ASC and politicians to STFU


Won’t do that Jim, worth too much money to CA. The funding CA get from the Government is enormous
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Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:10 am

Brodlach wrote:Steve Smith due back in Australia this afternoon

hope he gets a warm reception at the airport upon arrival, he'll probably just put his fingers in his ears and stamps his feet.
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Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:11 am

whufc wrote:Not certain it will happen but really hope CA lead the way and set an example to world cricket that cheating is not tolerated.

I would be comfortable if each of the players involved received a 12 month ban

Oh come on, it wasn't their fault they got caught.
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Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

Postby Brodlach » Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:11 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
Brodlach wrote:Steve Smith due back in Australia this afternoon

hope he gets a warm reception at the airport upon arrival, he'll probably just put his fingers in his ears and stamps his feet.

Bet he doesn’t
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Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

Postby Booney » Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:13 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
Brodlach wrote:Steve Smith due back in Australia this afternoon

hope he gets a warm reception at the airport upon arrival, he'll probably just put his fingers in his ears and stamps his feet.


Feel for those around him, his Mrs, his family etc.

They've got nothing to do with this but our internet warrior brigade will be all over them they like they sanded the ball.
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Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

Postby Jim05 » Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:13 am

Brodlach wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
whufc wrote:Not certain it will happen but really hope CA lead the way and set an example to world cricket that cheating is not tolerated.

I would be comfortable if each of the players involved received a 12 month ban

3-6 months is more than enough.
CA also needs to grow a pair and tell the ASC and politicians to STFU


Won’t do that Jim, worth too much money to CA. The funding CA get from the Government is enormous

We know they won’t. Just shits me hearing career cheats like Turnbull and co have their two cents worth.
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Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

Postby am Bays » Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:18 am

Dutchy wrote:
PatowalongaPirate wrote:Smith fined 100% of his match fee, receives 4 demerit points, and banned for 1 Test.

Bancroft fined 75% of his match fee and cops 3 demerit points.


No wonder they do it, be tougher and it will go away.


With our next two test series against Zim and the Bangas, according to the FTP, there'll be lengthy bans of six months ready for our best one day side to play against the 'Boks in Oct and India in the Nov tests.

The June 1 day series in England will be an ideal time to test a few fringe players 1 year out from the World Cup in ol' Blighty.
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Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

Postby Brodlach » Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:20 am

How does Bancroft get a lighter penalty than Smith?
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Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:21 am

Are we sending anyone over there?

From just what we do know you would think that we're up for two openers and a captain.

May aswell put up the white flag and throw Chadd and Jhye in there now. send Travis and Renshaw over there, Paine to captain.
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