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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

by The Bedge » Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:51 pm

morell wrote:Our effective disposal % is ok 72.3 - actually higher than Geelong. Clanger count is also reasonable. Most of our guys are pretty good kicks.

Be interested to see a break down between general field kicking compared to F50 entries for disposals.

I wonder how many much % of effective disposals by foot relate to short 15-20m kicks to a player with ample space.

I like the taps to advantage stat for rucks, I wouldn't mind a kicks to advantage stat.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

by Booney » Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:57 pm

amber_fluid wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Don't worry, Ken is out of contract in 2022 :)


He’ll of asked for an extension by then, and based on last years evidence, the club will jump to sign him.
He’s got the best manager in the world is all I can say.


If you both can explain to me :

- Who you would employ in the role to replace Hinkley?
- Why you would employ them, as in what they bring to the table, what are their credentials?
- Who would you employ as his/her assistants?

I love the "sack him" call with no idea on who to replace them with.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

by Rik E Boy » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:12 pm

Booney wrote:
JK wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Now Port fighting with the Integrity Department, good luck


I{m not sure how accurate the report was that I read, but it pretty much said the AFL want to sanction SPP for 2 or 3 games (retrospectively) despite the lack of evidence and the lad doesn't want to sign off on it, because he doesn't agree with version of events. Good on him, hope he sticks to his guns and doesn't sign anything unless it matches what he believes took place.


On the flip side the alleged victim isn't prepared, reportedly, to take the matter further.

Impasse has been reached.


SPP should be playing.

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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

by morell » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:13 pm

Booney wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Don't worry, Ken is out of contract in 2022 :)


He’ll of asked for an extension by then, and based on last years evidence, the club will jump to sign him.
He’s got the best manager in the world is all I can say.


If you both can explain to me :

- Who you would employ in the role to replace Hinkley?
- Why you would employ them, as in what they bring to the table, what are their credentials?
- Who would you employ as his/her assistants?

I love the "sack him" call with no idea on who to replace them with.
Stewie Dew was available at the time of his contract extension.

Ken threatened to leave for Gold Coast. We blinked and shat the bed.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

by Trader » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:15 pm

morell wrote:
Trader wrote:Simply put, our guys aren't good enough by foot.
mmmm nah.

Our effective disposal % is ok 72.3 - actually higher than Geelong. Clanger count is also reasonable. Most of our guys are pretty good kicks.


I don't disagree with that stat, but I'd love to know where you got it from. I can't find efficiency stats all that easily.
I assume I'm just looking in the wrong spot.

Footywire have a list of the top 100 ball users in 2017. https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_ ... t=LA&st=EP

Port has 3 on the list. Clurey, Houston and Jonas.
By contrast, a side I've always thought had good foot skills, Hawthorn has 16.

I'd love to get a full list though, as generally the top 100 are defenders padding their stats with kicks across the backlines.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

by The Bedge » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:19 pm

Trader wrote:I don't disagree with that stat, but I'd love to know where you got it from. I can't find efficiency stats all that easily..

AFL app, it's team disposal efficiency average over the year.

Crows - 75.2
Freo - 75.0
WCE - 74.2
Bulldogs - 74.1
Richmond - 74.0
GWS - 73.5
STK - 73.4
ESS - 73.0
PIES - 72.5
PA - 72
GEE - 72.2

Gold Cost is 65.1%
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

by amber_fluid » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:19 pm

Booney wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Don't worry, Ken is out of contract in 2022 :)


He’ll of asked for an extension by then, and based on last years evidence, the club will jump to sign him.
He’s got the best manager in the world is all I can say.


If you both can explain to me :

- Who you would employ in the role to replace Hinkley?
- Why you would employ them, as in what they bring to the table, what are their credentials?
- Who would you employ as his/her assistants?

I love the "sack him" call with no idea on who to replace them with.


I’d have given the job to Brendon Lade.
And ask him to have a plan B and to ultimately take risks when the game requires it.

Don’t just sit back and hope it’ll happen.
Make it happen!
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

by The Bedge » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:21 pm

Interestingly, PA is listed 8th for marks I50 (55), 6th Efficiency I50 (50.4%), 7th tackles I50 (ave 9.8)

Contested marks - 18th with 31 CM.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

by morell » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:21 pm

The Bedge wrote:
Trader wrote:I don't disagree with that stat, but I'd love to know where you got it from. I can't find efficiency stats all that easily..

AFL app, it's team disposal efficiency average over the year.

Crows - 75.2
Freo - 75.0
WCE - 74.2
Bulldogs - 74.1
Richmond - 74.0
GWS - 73.5
STK - 73.4
ESS - 73.0
PIES - 72.5
PA - 72
GEE - 72.2

Gold Cost is 65.1%
Yeah it's just on the AFL website. Change from players to teams, then click advanced options, turn off something (you can only have 11 fields) then turn on disposal efficiency.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

by morell » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:22 pm

The Bedge wrote:Interestingly, PA is listed 8th for marks I50 (55), 6th Efficiency I50 (50.4%), 7th tackles I50 (ave 9.8)

Contested marks - 18th with 31 CM.
Is there an echo in here or?
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

by morell » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:23 pm

amber_fluid wrote:
Booney wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Don't worry, Ken is out of contract in 2022 :)


He’ll of asked for an extension by then, and based on last years evidence, the club will jump to sign him.
He’s got the best manager in the world is all I can say.


If you both can explain to me :

- Who you would employ in the role to replace Hinkley?
- Why you would employ them, as in what they bring to the table, what are their credentials?
- Who would you employ as his/her assistants?

I love the "sack him" call with no idea on who to replace them with.


I’d have given the job to Brendon Lade.
And ask him to have a plan B and to ultimately take risks when the game requires it.

Don’t just sit back and hope it’ll happen.
Make it happen!

Exactly right Beigey fire up son!!

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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

by Lightning McQueen » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:28 pm

morell wrote:
The Bedge wrote:Interestingly, PA is listed 8th for marks I50 (55), 6th Efficiency I50 (50.4%), 7th tackles I50 (ave 9.8)

Contested marks - 18th with 31 CM.
Is there an echo in here or?

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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

by Dogwatcher » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:35 pm

Booney wrote: "As I've said right from the very start, if there's evidence of any serious sexual abuse, then we would throw the book at any player, but our vision of what happened on the night bears no resemblance to that."

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-04-23/p ... er-inquiry



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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

by Brodlach » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:55 pm

Do they think this is sexual abuse but not at a serious level?
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

by morell » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:58 pm

How is that hard to understand.

Pinching someone on the bum isn't the same as gang rape. For example.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

by Brodlach » Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:00 pm

It’s not hard to understand. Sexual assault is sexual assault. Do either of those in a normal work place and it’s goodbye.


I’m not suggesting that should happen to SPP as I have no idea what occurred
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

by The Bedge » Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:03 pm

Footballers slap each other on the arses every week - that's work place and they don't get sacked for it. :P
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

by Brodlach » Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:05 pm

The Bedge wrote:Footballers slap each other on the arses every week - that's work place and they don't get sacked for it. :P

He said pinching someone’s ass :-P :-P
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

by Dutchy » Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:19 pm

Booney wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Don't worry, Ken is out of contract in 2022 :)


He’ll of asked for an extension by then, and based on last years evidence, the club will jump to sign him.
He’s got the best manager in the world is all I can say.


If you both can explain to me :

- Who you would employ in the role to replace Hinkley?
- Why you would employ them, as in what they bring to the table, what are their credentials?
- Who would you employ as his/her assistants?

I love the "sack him" call with no idea on who to replace them with.


PAFC's issue not mine, 4 year extension was massive overs though.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

by morell » Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:27 pm

Brodlach wrote:It’s not hard to understand. Sexual assault is sexual assault. Do either of those in a normal work place and it’s goodbye.


I’m not suggesting that should happen to SPP as I have no idea what occurred

Nah, there are many more granular "categories" than that.

Misconduct, harassment, assault, rape...and severity therin
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