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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby RustyCage » Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:09 pm

morell wrote:
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Lightning McQueen wrote:Every time I watch Port play I think why do we have these great forwards and do nothing with them.

The opposition move the ball into their forward line and we all run back to clog it all up and then there's a turnover so we all run forward hoping the ball goes over the top and we run on to it. Sure, it might work for a few rounds until the niggles start setting in or for the first quarter and a half of a game but it's been proven that it can't be maintained for a full season.

Get big Chuck up near the goal front, have Robbie or Chad around his feet and go froward with some purpose, not sure how many times we see a forward thrust only to hit a wall and go sideways or backwards to dispose of the ball with any chance of efficiency.

Player for player Port are as good as or around the mark with most teams, perhaps they should try and expose this and have each player try and win their position, I get exhausted watching their game plan, it forces me to drink.


Simply put, our guys aren't good enough by foot.
Instead we kick it into space and back our speed in to get it. The kick over the top to space doesn't need to be as accurate as the kick to a leading target.
I dislike the game plan as much as the next guy, but in some respects we've been forced into it due to our lack of skills.

I guess that's why we also go with 1 tall, that spends time in the ruck (Dixon), and 8 HFF/FP's (SGray, Neade, Amon, Wingard, RGray, Boak, Thomas, Motlop) - Granted a few of those are running through the middle at the moment, but it does feel out of wack.
mmmm nah.

Our effective disposal % is ok 72.3 - actually higher than Geelong. Clanger count is also reasonable. Most of our guys are pretty good kicks.

When we suck is ... Contested marks (dead last) and i50 conversion.

Forward structure, system and method. In other words.

How many times did we lead and kick to the pocket? We took 4 (!) marks inside 50 on the weekend. 4!

We push our flankers and pockets up to break even in the middle. Leaving the opposition with numbers behind the ball. We then have to try and bomb or lead wide because there is no space. We even try the old Lade / Burgoyne trick of forcing the ball out instead of kicking to a contest to then take advantage of ... our.... elite.... RUCK

This is what I mean by structure and using a method that matches the demography of the selected side.


It’s easy to have a decent disposal efficiency when we chip it backwards and sideways as much as we did
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby Wedgie » Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:14 pm

Ken should have showed the playing group a video of the game from 2 years ago at AO when they were 5 goals up, went the biff and then got smacked by the Cats. Don't pull the Cats tail.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby helicopterking » Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:22 pm

Spargo wrote:
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morell wrote:I swear to god I'm in a timewarp.

Port start the year great. Cop an injury. Ken throws structure and common sense out the door. We struggle and scrag and lose to the better teams.

Pretty sure that's been 2015, 2016, 2017 and now... 2018.


Completely agree, and one thing we know about Ken is he is too stubborn to make changes and admit he was wrong. Clearly should play a ruckman. Won’t though, as doing so would admit he was wrong the last few weeks


So your senior coach is putting his pride & ego before the betterment of the team?


Not going to play a Ruckman against Goldstein and Naitunui in the next 2 weeks?
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby amber_fluid » Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:27 pm

Spargo wrote:
RustyCage wrote:
morell wrote:I swear to god I'm in a timewarp.

Port start the year great. Cop an injury. Ken throws structure and common sense out the door. We struggle and scrag and lose to the better teams.

Pretty sure that's been 2015, 2016, 2017 and now... 2018.


Completely agree, and one thing we know about Ken is he is too stubborn to make changes and admit he was wrong. Clearly should play a ruckman. Won’t though, as doing so would admit he was wrong the last few weeks


So your senior coach is putting his pride & ego before the betterment of the team?


Catch up mate, he’s been doing it for a few years now....... ;)
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby MW » Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:56 pm

I was away over the weekend... did i miss anything?
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby Wedgie » Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:01 pm

MW wrote:I was away over the weekend... did i miss anything?

Just the usual mate. ;)
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby LMA » Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:48 pm

Brodlach wrote:How about the flog who runs in with a swing punch then runs away.


Jeez Selwood did have a big night
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby carey » Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:03 pm

LMA wrote:
Brodlach wrote:How about the flog who runs in with a swing punch then runs away.


Jeez Selwood did have a big night



He’ll 100% get off.

They’ll appeal and win.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby Wedgie » Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:10 pm

carey wrote:
LMA wrote:
Brodlach wrote:How about the flog who runs in with a swing punch then runs away.


Jeez Selwood did have a big night



He’ll 100% get off.

They’ll appeal and win.

You'd hope so but with Geelongs track record it's hard to see. Fancy pushing a bloke who's just smashed your brother like a dog, I couldn't imagine anyone else doing that.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby LMA » Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:32 pm

Wedgie wrote:
carey wrote:
LMA wrote:
Brodlach wrote:How about the flog who runs in with a swing punch then runs away.


Jeez Selwood did have a big night



He’ll 100% get off.

They’ll appeal and win.

You'd hope so but with Geelongs track record it's hard to see. Fancy pushing a bloke who's just smashed your brother like a dog, I couldn't imagine anyone else doing that.


Don't have a problem with that it's the squealing like a pig to the umpire when the tide turns, been doing it his whole career. For the record I think Selwood is a great player and leader.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby daysofourlives » Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:20 am

RustyCage wrote:
morell wrote:I swear to god I'm in a timewarp.

Port start the year great. Cop an injury. Ken throws structure and common sense out the door. We struggle and scrag and lose to the better teams.

Pretty sure that's been 2015, 2016, 2017 and now... 2018.


Completely agree, and one thing we know about Ken is he is too stubborn to make changes and admit he was wrong. Clearly should play a ruckman. Won’t though, as doing so would admit he was wrong the last few weeks


To be fair if we use a cricket analagy, theres no point playing a spinner if hes not up to it just for the sake of it.
Lobbe would be pretty handy about now ;)
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby Booney » Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:59 am

daysofourlives wrote:
RustyCage wrote:
morell wrote:I swear to god I'm in a timewarp.

Port start the year great. Cop an injury. Ken throws structure and common sense out the door. We struggle and scrag and lose to the better teams.

Pretty sure that's been 2015, 2016, 2017 and now... 2018.


Completely agree, and one thing we know about Ken is he is too stubborn to make changes and admit he was wrong. Clearly should play a ruckman. Won’t though, as doing so would admit he was wrong the last few weeks


To be fair if we use a cricket analagy, theres no point playing a spinner if hes not up to it just for the sake of it.
Lobbe would be pretty handy about now ;)


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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby JK » Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:03 am

Wedgie wrote:
carey wrote:
LMA wrote:
Brodlach wrote:How about the flog who runs in with a swing punch then runs away.


Jeez Selwood did have a big night



He’ll 100% get off.

They’ll appeal and win.

You'd hope so but with Geelongs track record it's hard to see. Fancy pushing a bloke who's just smashed your brother like a dog, I couldn't imagine anyone else doing that.


The brother bit is irrelevant, but I'm surprised he got a game for that, reckon Carey's on the money and he'll be right to go next round
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby Booney » Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:16 am

Wedgie wrote:
carey wrote:
LMA wrote:
Brodlach wrote:How about the flog who runs in with a swing punch then runs away.

Jeez Selwood did have a big night

He’ll 100% get off.
They’ll appeal and win.

You'd hope so but with Geelongs track record it's hard to see. Fancy pushing a bloke who's just smashed your brother like a dog, I couldn't imagine anyone else doing that.


Ahh, the old sibling defence. I'm sure that'll work. :lol:

"Like a dog"? Not sure it was a dog act, you can still bump within 5m of the ball, it was another piss poor attempt by Thomas to be physical, he's just not good at it, not sure it's a dog act. Some of the media were calling it that so it's reasonable for people to just follow what the masses say without looking at it too closely to say the same thing.

The Essendon bloke got 3 for biting, I'd say Thomas will get 3 tops with the extra one for smacking the other Selwood.

Finally, Selwood's little jumper punch probably isn't a game if they're standing up, but only last week Christian gave someone a week for driving a players head into the ground, marginal, but that's probably what got Selwood's up from a fine to a game. I reckon he'll get off if they appeal it.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby Dutchy » Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:19 am

talk of SPP playing tomorrow
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby Booney » Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:20 am

Dutchy wrote:talk of SPP playing tomorrow


A half, still be right for next weekend v North.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby Spargo » Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:27 am

Thomas appears to land a decent right jab to Selwood after he jumper punches him.
(then again, maybe it was Selwood accentuating it...)
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby MW » Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:32 am

Booney wrote:
Dutchy wrote:talk of SPP playing tomorrow


A half, still be right for next weekend v North.


You think he'll be eligible?
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby Dogwatcher » Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:32 am

A possible four weeks suspension. Then you'd expect he'd start in the twos. Do you think Thomas will play AFL again?
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Re: Port Adelaide 2018

Postby Booney » Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:38 am

Dogwatcher wrote:A possible four weeks suspension. Then you'd expect he'd start in the twos. Do you think Thomas will play AFL again?


Four weeks with two weeks served?

No, I don't think Thomas will play at AFL level again.
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