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Re: Bomber Thompson arrested

Postby morell » Thu May 03, 2018 11:04 am

bennymacca wrote:your way of "educating" is extremely grating and makes people turn off straight away - even if your argument has merit

It is in the moment, perhaps.

But this is systematic of the backfire effect, made famous by the Oatmeal:

http://theoatmeal.com/comics/believe

Hencewhy I use perhaps what one would consider "emotional" language.

Posting an article with facts gets you nowhere. You have to kind of shake people sometimes.
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Re: Bomber Thompson arrested

Postby Booney » Thu May 03, 2018 11:08 am

bennymacca wrote:your way of "educating" is extremely grating and makes people turn off straight away - even if your argument has merit


When I first was elevated into middle-management, with 23 people under me, my then manager said "Some people you need to hug, some people you need to kick in the arse, a good motivator knows which person needs which one".

You can't just shake everyone, morell.
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Re: Bomber Thompson arrested

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu May 03, 2018 11:09 am

We so need a "get-together".
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Re: Bomber Thompson arrested

Postby bennymacca » Thu May 03, 2018 11:13 am

morell wrote:
bennymacca wrote:your way of "educating" is extremely grating and makes people turn off straight away - even if your argument has merit

It is in the moment, perhaps.

But this is systematic of the backfire effect, made famous by the Oatmeal:

http://theoatmeal.com/comics/believe

Hencewhy I use perhaps what one would consider "emotional" language.

Posting an article with facts gets you nowhere. You have to kind of shake people sometimes.


I think, in person, when you have a rapport, this is fine in certain circumstances, but isnt the smartest default position
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Re: Bomber Thompson arrested

Postby morell » Thu May 03, 2018 11:16 am

Valid points, all.

I took Jim to be a stout kind of campaigner requiring shaking.

I wouldn't have spoken in the same manner to other posters. If he's upset, then I apologise for my lack of awareness.
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Re: Bomber Thompson arrested

Postby morell » Thu May 03, 2018 11:22 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:We so need a "get-together".
Nah, then my online persona would be ruined.
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Re: Bomber Thompson arrested

Postby Bandit » Thu May 03, 2018 11:31 am

Booney wrote:
bennymacca wrote:your way of "educating" is extremely grating and makes people turn off straight away - even if your argument has merit


When I first was elevated into middle-management, with 23 people under me, my then manager said "Some people you need to hug, some people you need to kick in the arse, a good motivator knows which person needs which one".

You can't just shake everyone, morell.


Same applies in footy, ie coaching/team-mates, it can be hard to understand one camp when your used to (prefer) the other.
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Re: Bomber Thompson arrested

Postby morell » Thu May 03, 2018 11:33 am

Indeed, my icecream example is valid though.

I'm all for emotional intelligence and leading with kindness for most things, icecream flavours and footy good examples.


Drug laws ain't no joke, though. And I have trouble treading on eggshells given my particular life experiences with them.
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Re: Bomber Thompson arrested

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu May 03, 2018 11:41 am

morell wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:We so need a "get-together".
Nah, then my online persona would be ruined.

Why's that? Are you a good bloke in the flesh?
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Re: Bomber Thompson arrested

Postby heater31 » Thu May 03, 2018 11:48 am

So it gets back to a simple solution..... don't touch drugs.

Won't become addicted and the dealers won't have a market.....everyone wins.
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Re: Bomber Thompson arrested

Postby morell » Thu May 03, 2018 11:49 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
morell wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:We so need a "get-together".
Nah, then my online persona would be ruined.

Why's that? Are you a good bloke in the flesh?

I'm nothing but polite and personable. It's so annoying.
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Re: Bomber Thompson arrested

Postby morell » Thu May 03, 2018 11:49 am

heater31 wrote:So it gets back to a simple solution..... don't touch drugs.

Won't become addicted and the dealers won't have a market.....everyone wins.

How's that working?
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Re: Bomber Thompson arrested

Postby heater31 » Thu May 03, 2018 11:50 am

morell wrote:
heater31 wrote:So it gets back to a simple solution..... don't touch drugs.

Won't become addicted and the dealers won't have a market.....everyone wins.

How's that working?
Pretty well for me and all of my acquaintances!


Acknowledge that those in the current cycle are most probably lost unless some serious rehabilitation occurs. But eventually if you don't start with the shit you won't be caught in the cycle.
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Re: Bomber Thompson arrested

Postby Q. » Thu May 03, 2018 11:52 am

heater31 wrote:
morell wrote:
heater31 wrote:So it gets back to a simple solution..... don't touch drugs.

Won't become addicted and the dealers won't have a market.....everyone wins.

How's that working?
Pretty well for me and all of my acquaintances!


You all drink alcohol though. How's that working out for you?
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Re: Bomber Thompson arrested

Postby morell » Thu May 03, 2018 11:53 am

heater31 wrote:
morell wrote:
heater31 wrote:So it gets back to a simple solution..... don't touch drugs.

Won't become addicted and the dealers won't have a market.....everyone wins.

How's that working?
Pretty well for me and all of my acquaintances!


Acknowledge that those in the current cycle are most probably lost unless some serious rehabilitation occurs. But eventually if you don't start with the shit you won't be caught in the cycle.

Well then shut the gate! Heater and his mates are sweet.

No drug problem in society at all.
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Re: Bomber Thompson arrested

Postby MW » Thu May 03, 2018 11:55 am

I drink alcohol because it's legal. I'd hate to think what I might take if drugs were legal...
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Re: Bomber Thompson arrested

Postby Booney » Thu May 03, 2018 11:59 am

MW wrote:I drink alcohol because it's legal. I'd hate to think what I might take if drugs were legal...


The question is would you drink alcohol if it was illegal?
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Re: Bomber Thompson arrested

Postby Booney » Thu May 03, 2018 12:00 pm

heater31 wrote:
morell wrote:
heater31 wrote:So it gets back to a simple solution..... don't touch drugs.
Won't become addicted and the dealers won't have a market.....everyone wins.

How's that working?
Pretty well for me and all of my acquaintances!
Acknowledge that those in the current cycle are most probably lost unless some serious rehabilitation occurs. But eventually if you don't start with the shit you won't be caught in the cycle.


I would bet there's people in your circle who are regular drug users and you have no idea they do.
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Re: Bomber Thompson arrested

Postby heater31 » Thu May 03, 2018 12:10 pm

Booney wrote:
heater31 wrote:
morell wrote:
heater31 wrote:So it gets back to a simple solution..... don't touch drugs.
Won't become addicted and the dealers won't have a market.....everyone wins.

How's that working?
Pretty well for me and all of my acquaintances!
Acknowledge that those in the current cycle are most probably lost unless some serious rehabilitation occurs. But eventually if you don't start with the shit you won't be caught in the cycle.


I would bet there's people in your circle who are regular drug users and you have no idea they do.
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Re: Bomber Thompson arrested

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu May 03, 2018 12:13 pm

Booney wrote:
I would bet there's people in your circle who are regular drug users and you have no idea they do.

The Fun Police and I were having a discussion over this a couple of weeks ago when the radio suggested that 10% of the Adelaide adult population is an ice user.

I didn't believe it, it's trying to say one in every ten people I know is on it?
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