by stan » Mon May 07, 2018 9:19 am
by Booney » Mon May 07, 2018 9:42 am
stan wrote:**** ya shit Port. 2nd to the ball all day.
by Lightning McQueen » Mon May 07, 2018 10:19 am
Booney wrote:stan wrote:**** ya shit Port. 2nd to the ball all day.
Inexcusable when we've got the likes of Wines, R.Gray, Ebert and Boak in the middle. Oddly they weren't our worst, just got beaten by a side who worked harder to gain first possession.
by The Bedge » Mon May 07, 2018 10:54 am
Dolphin Treasure wrote:Your an attention seeking embarsement..
by Booney » Mon May 07, 2018 11:00 am
The Bedge wrote:Long way to go, but if Port were to miss the 8, where would that leave the club moving forward?
by Lightning McQueen » Mon May 07, 2018 11:03 am
The Bedge wrote:Long way to go, but if Port were to miss the 8, where would that leave the club moving forward?
by Jim05 » Mon May 07, 2018 11:09 am
Booney wrote:The Bedge wrote:Long way to go, but if Port were to miss the 8, where would that leave the club moving forward?
Stuck in the middle of the ladder for years.
by morell » Mon May 07, 2018 11:25 am
Huzzah!!Lightning McQueen wrote:Booney wrote:stan wrote:**** ya shit Port. 2nd to the ball all day.
Inexcusable when we've got the likes of Wines, R.Gray, Ebert and Boak in the middle. Oddly they weren't our worst, just got beaten by a side who worked harder to gain first possession.
We got beaten by a team that plays a full forward, a centre half forward, a true half forward flanker role and has a small crumbing forward, it's funny how a basic team set up is able to score enough to win and run out a game.
by Booney » Mon May 07, 2018 11:27 am
by JK » Mon May 07, 2018 11:29 am
morell wrote:We have a list designed around attacking with flair. Playing on quickly. Bit of dare and aggression. Taking risks. It worked amazingly well in '14. But now we've being instructed to play like a poor man's 05 Sydney Swans by a man protecting his ego and reducing damage, rather than backing in his choc full of talent players.
by The Bedge » Mon May 07, 2018 11:43 am
Dolphin Treasure wrote:Your an attention seeking embarsement..
by morell » Mon May 07, 2018 11:46 am
by Booney » Mon May 07, 2018 11:46 am
The Bedge wrote:Could Port play Barry as the pressure forward role instead of Neade?
Pittard was very average on the weekend as well I thought along with those named.
Showdown's are generally a physical, hard fought, contested game, i'd be bringing both SPP and Rockliff back in and back the side in to win the contested stuff, and as morell mentioned back the sides attacking flair and talent to hit the scoreboard.
by morell » Mon May 07, 2018 11:51 am
by Lightning McQueen » Mon May 07, 2018 11:54 am
morell wrote:Huzzah!!
Absolutely correct LM.
It's very easy to point at the contested stats and say that's why we lost. But there are plenty of teams that regularly lose the contested ball and win.
But. Those teams have an elite forward structure, so that when the ball is turned over they are efficient, precise and accurate. Mostly through moving the ball through the corridor with urgency and method.
Port have neither. We play the game based on rebound from half back and turning the ball over with pressure. Then locking it in until the football gods smile on us and we fluke a goal. It's overtly negative and cynical. But most annoyingly... doesn't match our players strengths!! Best example is Watts being used as a negating forward on McGovern. What in the actual Ken?! It didn't work last time. Didn't work against Richmond and won't work again with the players you have.
We have a list designed around attacking with flair. Playing on quickly. Bit of dare and aggression. Taking risks. It worked amazingly well in '14. But now we've being instructed to play like a poor man's 05 Sydney Swans by a man protecting his ego and reducing damage, rather than backing in his choc full of talent players.
Yet again, it's a case of driving a Lamborghini with the hand brake on.
by Lightning McQueen » Mon May 07, 2018 11:55 am
The Bedge wrote:Could Port play Barry as the pressure forward role instead of Neade?
Pittard was very average on the weekend as well I thought along with those named.
Showdown's are generally a physical, hard fought, contested game, i'd be bringing both SPP and Rockliff back in and back the side in to win the contested stuff, and as morell mentioned back the sides attacking flair and talent to hit the scoreboard.
by Trader » Mon May 07, 2018 12:01 pm
by Booney » Mon May 07, 2018 12:02 pm
Lightning McQueen wrote:The Bedge wrote:Could Port play Barry as the pressure forward role instead of Neade?
Pittard was very average on the weekend as well I thought along with those named.
Showdown's are generally a physical, hard fought, contested game, i'd be bringing both SPP and Rockliff back in and back the side in to win the contested stuff, and as morell mentioned back the sides attacking flair and talent to hit the scoreboard.
Daisy Friggin Pearce could play that role better than Neade, I shake my head whenever I see him in the 22, I wonder what our win-loss ratio is with him in or not in.
by morell » Mon May 07, 2018 12:06 pm
Lightning McQueen wrote:morell wrote:Huzzah!!
Absolutely correct LM.
It's very easy to point at the contested stats and say that's why we lost. But there are plenty of teams that regularly lose the contested ball and win.
But. Those teams have an elite forward structure, so that when the ball is turned over they are efficient, precise and accurate. Mostly through moving the ball through the corridor with urgency and method.
Port have neither. We play the game based on rebound from half back and turning the ball over with pressure. Then locking it in until the football gods smile on us and we fluke a goal. It's overtly negative and cynical. But most annoyingly... doesn't match our players strengths!! Best example is Watts being used as a negating forward on McGovern. What in the actual Ken?! It didn't work last time. Didn't work against Richmond and won't work again with the players you have.
We have a list designed around attacking with flair. Playing on quickly. Bit of dare and aggression. Taking risks. It worked amazingly well in '14. But now we've being instructed to play like a poor man's 05 Sydney Swans by a man protecting his ego and reducing damage, rather than backing in his choc full of talent players.
Yet again, it's a case of driving a Lamborghini with the hand brake on.
It's like watching a train knowing there's an end to the track up ahead.
You see all this hard word done down back to do a switch and move the ball forward and then they all stop as there's no one to deliver it to? Like WTF?
We have Dixon that can just plonk his huge frame in the square, Westhoff who can float about around half forward and take a grab, or others if preferred, then there's Robbie and Chad who can be very dangerous up forward, instead they are all trapped near the wing.
by Trader » Mon May 07, 2018 12:08 pm
Booney wrote:Lightning McQueen wrote:The Bedge wrote:Could Port play Barry as the pressure forward role instead of Neade?
Pittard was very average on the weekend as well I thought along with those named.
Showdown's are generally a physical, hard fought, contested game, i'd be bringing both SPP and Rockliff back in and back the side in to win the contested stuff, and as morell mentioned back the sides attacking flair and talent to hit the scoreboard.
Daisy Friggin Pearce could play that role better than Neade, I shake my head whenever I see him in the 22, I wonder what our win-loss ratio is with him in or not in.
34 wins, 27 losses with Neade in the side.
https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players ... Neade.html
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