The South Australian Political Landscape

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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby stan » Sun Apr 22, 2018 11:15 pm

morell wrote:
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cracka wrote:
morell wrote:Looks like that Apple Watch and golf membership has paid off:

[quote] Local businesses in the City of Onkaparinga secured nearly $1million worth of export deals in a
six-month period thanks to the council’s Trade and Investment Attraction Program.
From 1 July to 31 December last year, 22 businesses from six different industries recorded
$961,000 worth of exports to international markets, mainly to China through participating in
business missions, delegations and trade events facilitated by council.


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Were the deals all done on the golf course.


Makes you wonder why they went to such extent, including breaking the law, to keep the golf membership secret.
Complete fabrication and misrepresentation.

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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby morell » Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:22 pm

Nah true. This entire story is the epitome of a #FakeNews media beat up.
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby Booney » Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:25 pm

Ship builder ASC to cut up to 223 jobs :

The federal government owned shipbuilder ASC is laying off 223 workers in South Australia ahead of the Air Warfare Destroyer project winding down.

The third and final ship, Sydney, is expected to be ready by late 2019.

An ASC spokesman said up to 223 positions would be reduced by early June.

"The company anticipates that the number of people required to leave the business will be reduced due to transfer opportunities to ASC's submarine's business," the spokesman said.

Voluntary and non-voluntary redundancy packages will also be offered.

The company flagged there will be six weeks of talks with its workforce.

The Australian Manufacturing Workers Union says it understands the bulk of the job cuts are permanent full-time and highly skilled positions.

"(Defence Industry Minister Christopher) Pyne looked shipbuilders in the eye and promised them that the work and their jobs were now secure," union spokesman Glenn Thompson said.

"This promise has been broken."

Mr Thompson pointed out Mr Pyne had assured people the so-called "valley of death" - when expertise and jobs are lost between major shipbuilding projects - was over.

"If the valley of death is over, how do they explain today's announcement?"

ASC is expected to start work on the first two offshore patrol vessels later this year and hopes to build the Navy's new fleet of frigates.

The Air Warfare Destroyer project has been marred by delays and cost blow-outs.
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby Dogwatcher » Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:33 pm

Hopefully having a Liberal State Government will help us when we try and discuss this with the Feds.
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby Booney » Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:42 pm

Dogwatcher wrote:Hopefully having a Liberal State Government will help us when we try and discuss this with the Feds.


Exactly the reason it's in the SA politics thread.....one to watch.
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby Dogwatcher » Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:56 pm

The first test of the relationship which is supposed to benefit the state.
A real test of Marshall's leadership and the relationship he has with Canberra.
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby jo172 » Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:57 pm

https://indaily.com.au/news/politics/2018/04/23/theyre-dickheads-darley/

The formation of a potential voting bloc that could wield the balance of power in the state’s new-look Upper House looks a lost cause, with former Nick Xenophon sidekick John Darley today trading insults with SA Best, labelling it full of “dickheads” and declaring the party should split.


One gets the feeling this rather tedious soap opera will not play out to the benefit of the state
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby Jimmy_041 » Fri May 04, 2018 4:18 pm

Onkaparinga Council making friends again

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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby Jimmy_041 » Mon May 07, 2018 10:17 am

If ever there was proof that council finances should be controlled

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/sout ... 550faa6714
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby DOC » Mon May 07, 2018 10:45 am

I am yet to be convinced about rate capping. Not sure how rate capping stops those persons responsible for wasteful spending, golf memberships as an example, from still doing it. It simply decreases or caps the rate collection.
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby Jimmy_041 » Mon May 07, 2018 12:09 pm

DOC wrote:I am yet to be convinced about rate capping. Not sure how rate capping stops those persons responsible for wasteful spending, golf memberships as an example, from still doing it. It simply decreases or caps the rate collection.


I agree but change and accountability has to start somewhere.
Councils have been put on notice. Change the attitude or else.
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby morell » Tue May 08, 2018 9:12 pm

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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby morell » Tue May 08, 2018 9:14 pm

DOC wrote:I am yet to be convinced about rate capping. Not sure how rate capping stops those persons responsible for wasteful spending, golf memberships as an example, from still doing it. It simply decreases or caps the rate collection.

It doesn't. It's a utterly stupid policy.

But it'll appease the feeble minded and/or those that don't understand Local Government.
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby Jimmy_041 » Wed May 09, 2018 12:49 am

morell wrote:
DOC wrote:I am yet to be convinced about rate capping. Not sure how rate capping stops those persons responsible for wasteful spending, golf memberships as an example, from still doing it. It simply decreases or caps the rate collection.

It doesn't. It's a utterly stupid policy.

But it'll appease the feeble minded and/or those that don't understand Local Government.


Point proven
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby morell » Wed May 09, 2018 9:16 am

Jimmy_041 wrote:
morell wrote:
DOC wrote:I am yet to be convinced about rate capping. Not sure how rate capping stops those persons responsible for wasteful spending, golf memberships as an example, from still doing it. It simply decreases or caps the rate collection.

It doesn't. It's a utterly stupid policy.

But it'll appease the feeble minded and/or those that don't understand Local Government.


Point proven
That the state Liberals produce policies that dont actually achieve anything? But the appeasement of trust fund babies and the old boys club of Adelaide, of course.

Then yeah, point proven.

If we want to reduce costs at the local government level, then do something like:

All major projects over $500k to be reviewed and signed off by an independent panel. Like the DAP. Would save millions.
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby jo172 » Wed May 09, 2018 9:32 am

morell wrote:
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DOC wrote:All major projects over $500k to be reviewed and signed off by an independent panel. Like the DAP. Would save millions.


I would never be pointing to DAPs as an efficiency dividend for anything.

I've seen some of the most asinine reasoning of my life by elected members in DAP meetings.

Put everything through the SPAC and now we're talking.
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby Dogwatcher » Wed May 09, 2018 9:46 am

morell wrote:
Jimmy_041 wrote:
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DOC wrote:I am yet to be convinced about rate capping. Not sure how rate capping stops those persons responsible for wasteful spending, golf memberships as an example, from still doing it. It simply decreases or caps the rate collection.

It doesn't. It's a utterly stupid policy.

But it'll appease the feeble minded and/or those that don't understand Local Government.


Point proven
That the state Liberals produce policies that dont actually achieve anything? But the appeasement of trust fund babies and the old boys club of Adelaide, of course.

Then yeah, point proven.

If we want to reduce costs at the local government level, then do something like:

All major projects over $500k to be reviewed and signed off by an independent panel. Like the DAP. Would save millions.


Yes, but then government will approve projects in favour of developers - despite local interests. Two major developments at Gawler are an example of that. Taken out of the hands of council for approval, granted approval by a minister and now we're left with major traffic issues that have been the bane of community since. Now we're getting a half-arsed fix for one of those traffic issues, whilst the other fix is going to drive more traffic through suburban streets.
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby morell » Wed May 09, 2018 9:55 am

jo172 wrote:
morell wrote:All major projects over $500k to be reviewed and signed off by an independent panel. Like the DAP. Would save millions.


I would never be pointing to DAPs as an efficiency dividend for anything.

I've seen some of the most asinine reasoning of my life by elected members in DAP meetings.

Put everything through the SPAC and now we're talking.

I did say "like a DAP".

But I agree.

I mean for all major projects too, not just ones related to Development. Plointy of large projects in the social and IT streams that could use some trimming.
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby morell » Wed May 09, 2018 9:57 am

Dogwatcher wrote:
morell wrote:
Jimmy_041 wrote:
morell wrote:It doesn't. It's a utterly stupid policy.

But it'll appease the feeble minded and/or those that don't understand Local Government.


Point proven
That the state Liberals produce policies that dont actually achieve anything? But the appeasement of trust fund babies and the old boys club of Adelaide, of course.

Then yeah, point proven.

If we want to reduce costs at the local government level, then do something like:

All major projects over $500k to be reviewed and signed off by an independent panel. Like the DAP. Would save millions.


Yes, but then government will approve projects in favour of developers - despite local interests. Two major developments at Gawler are an example of that. Taken out of the hands of council for approval, granted approval by a minister and now we're left with major traffic issues that have been the bane of community since. Now we're getting a half-arsed fix for one of those traffic issues, whilst the other fix is going to drive more traffic through suburban streets.
Would depend who is on said panel.

Independence would be the key. There are ways and means.
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby morell » Wed May 09, 2018 10:03 am

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