Coach Review

Talk on the national game

Best coach

Pyke
2
6%
Fagan
0
No votes
Bolton
1
3%
Buckley
0
No votes
Worsfold
0
No votes
Lyon
0
No votes
C. Scott
1
3%
Dew
1
3%
Cameron
0
No votes
Clarkson
20
63%
Goodwin
0
No votes
B. Scott
3
9%
Hinkley
0
No votes
Hardwick
1
3%
Richardson
0
No votes
Longmire
0
No votes
Simpson
3
9%
Beveridge
0
No votes
 
Total votes : 32

Re: Coach Review

Postby daysofourlives » Tue Jun 05, 2018 8:05 pm

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I don't think the senior coaches have as much to do with the recruiting process as the general feel on this site seems to be, they simply wouldn't have time and that's why they have such a vast network of recruiters and talent identification.

I'd say they'd be in constant contact with the list management / recruiting team as to what the coaches wants and needs are throughout the year but ultimately come draft day the people who have put in all the work identifying that talent will decide who the "next best" in the draft is.

Ie - You may need a ruck man for the future but if you've got pick 8 and Dangerfield is available you take him as he's the "next best" and that might not be the coaches wish, it would be the recruiters wish.

I'm sure the coaches have some input, but from November to September ( or thereabouts ) they're focused on the very big job at hand.

I'd be of the assumption that they'd have a huge input into it. They are the ones that are on the chopping block if they don't deliver the goods.


Apparently this is the problem at the Bulldogs, Beveridge thinks he runs the whole show, a control freak if you like. Id say he'll be lucky to see out this season. He may go the way of Choco and not get another gig
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Re: Coach Review

Postby westozfalcon » Tue Jun 05, 2018 10:23 pm

daysofourlives wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Booney wrote:
I don't think the senior coaches have as much to do with the recruiting process as the general feel on this site seems to be, they simply wouldn't have time and that's why they have such a vast network of recruiters and talent identification.

I'd say they'd be in constant contact with the list management / recruiting team as to what the coaches wants and needs are throughout the year but ultimately come draft day the people who have put in all the work identifying that talent will decide who the "next best" in the draft is.

Ie - You may need a ruck man for the future but if you've got pick 8 and Dangerfield is available you take him as he's the "next best" and that might not be the coaches wish, it would be the recruiters wish.

I'm sure the coaches have some input, but from November to September ( or thereabouts ) they're focused on the very big job at hand.

I'd be of the assumption that they'd have a huge input into it. They are the ones that are on the chopping block if they don't deliver the goods.


Apparently this is the problem at the Bulldogs, Beveridge thinks he runs the whole show, a control freak if you like. Id say he'll be lucky to see out this season. He may go the way of Choco and not get another gig


I think the coach needs to be a 'control freak' to a certain extent.

There might be a lot more 'outsourcing' of responsibilities these days but it's still the coach who gets sent packing if the team doesn't register enough W's in the WLD column, not the list managers, talent scouts, sports scientists, high performance managers etc.
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Re: Coach Review

Postby Dutchy » Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:21 pm

Beveridge would get another gig for sure.
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Re: Coach Review

Postby tigerpie » Wed Jun 06, 2018 1:20 am

The Beveridge scenario is an interesting one.
Something's happened at the dogs for them to turn over so many players in 2 years.
I think journos know something but can't put it to print.
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Re: Coach Review

Postby stan » Wed Jun 06, 2018 7:03 am

tigerpie wrote:The Beveridge scenario is an interesting one.
Something's happened at the dogs for them to turn over so many players in 2 years.
I think journos know something but can't put it to print.
Thats unlike them if thats the case. Normally they dont give a **** and have zero accountability. So if they knew something it would be printed by now.
Read my reply. It is directed at you because you have double standards
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Re: Coach Review

Postby Spargo » Wed Jun 06, 2018 7:23 am

stan wrote:
tigerpie wrote:The Beveridge scenario is an interesting one.
Something's happened at the dogs for them to turn over so many players in 2 years.
I think journos know something but can't put it to print.
Thats unlike them if thats the case. Normally they dont give a **** and have zero accountability. So if they knew something it would be printed by now.


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Re: Coach Review

Postby daysofourlives » Wed Jun 06, 2018 6:42 pm

stan wrote:
tigerpie wrote:The Beveridge scenario is an interesting one.
Something's happened at the dogs for them to turn over so many players in 2 years.
I think journos know something but can't put it to print.
Thats unlike them if thats the case. Normally they dont give a **** and have zero accountability. So if they knew something it would be printed by now.


Dont know about that, they dont print the real story with Buddy ever, i guess if you want to keep working in the AFL you tow the party line
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Re: Coach Review

Postby tigerpie » Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:41 pm

daysofourlives wrote:
stan wrote:
tigerpie wrote:The Beveridge scenario is an interesting one.
Something's happened at the dogs for them to turn over so many players in 2 years.
I think journos know something but can't put it to print.
Thats unlike them if thats the case. Normally they dont give a **** and have zero accountability. So if they knew something it would be printed by now.


Dont know about that, they dont print the real story with Buddy ever, i guess if you want to keep working in the AFL you tow the party line

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Re: Coach Review

Postby stan » Wed Jun 06, 2018 11:16 pm

daysofourlives wrote:
stan wrote:
tigerpie wrote:The Beveridge scenario is an interesting one.
Something's happened at the dogs for them to turn over so many players in 2 years.
I think journos know something but can't put it to print.
Thats unlike them if thats the case. Normally they dont give a **** and have zero accountability. So if they knew something it would be printed by now.


Dont know about that, they dont print the real story with Buddy ever, i guess if you want to keep working in the AFL you tow the party line
Well that is true.
Read my reply. It is directed at you because you have double standards
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Re: Coach Review

Postby Armchair expert » Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:28 am

If there were something happening at the dogs that weasel Barrett would be telling the world.
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Re: Coach Review

Postby daysofourlives » Thu Jun 07, 2018 6:51 pm

So which one of the Crow "people" voted for Pyke?
Now that should be in the make you laugh thread :D
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Re: Coach Review

Postby Wedgie » Thu Jun 07, 2018 10:35 pm

Its just a shame there's not 18 Scott's, love coaches wifh personality.
They'd probably be the only two I'd enjoy catching up with over a beer.
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Re: Coach Review

Postby helicopterking » Fri Jun 08, 2018 8:01 am

Wedgie wrote:Its just a shame there's not 18 Scott's, love coaches wifh personality.
They'd probably be the only two I'd enjoy catching up with over a beer.


Sounds like fun. 3 blokes, sitting around at a pub, whinging about everyone and everything.
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Re: Coach Review

Postby Spargo » Fri Jun 08, 2018 8:35 am

helicopterking wrote:
Wedgie wrote:Its just a shame there's not 18 Scott's, love coaches wifh personality.
They'd probably be the only two I'd enjoy catching up with over a beer.


Sounds like fun. 3 blokes, sitting around at a pub, whinging about everyone and everything.


Can you tell me the last time one of them had an apparent “whinge” and what it was about?
There seems to be a perception that because they’re more animated in the coaches box or because they answer questions in a presser honestly & with some emotion, that they’re whinging.
Strange.
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Re: Coach Review

Postby Booney » Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:14 am

Spargo wrote:
helicopterking wrote:
Wedgie wrote:Its just a shame there's not 18 Scott's, love coaches wifh personality.
They'd probably be the only two I'd enjoy catching up with over a beer.


Sounds like fun. 3 blokes, sitting around at a pub, whinging about everyone and everything.


Can you tell me the last time one of them had an apparent “whinge” and what it was about?
There seems to be a perception that because they’re more animated in the coaches box or because they answer questions in a presser honestly & with some emotion, that they’re whinging.
Strange.


I will if you can name the last coach to get fined $30,000 for complaining about umpires.

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Re: Coach Review

Postby Spargo » Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:16 am

How long ago?
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Re: Coach Review

Postby Jim05 » Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:21 am

Spargo wrote:
helicopterking wrote:
Wedgie wrote:Its just a shame there's not 18 Scott's, love coaches wifh personality.
They'd probably be the only two I'd enjoy catching up with over a beer.


Sounds like fun. 3 blokes, sitting around at a pub, whinging about everyone and everything.


Can you tell me the last time one of them had an apparent “whinge” and what it was about?
There seems to be a perception that because they’re more animated in the coaches box or because they answer questions in a presser honestly & with some emotion, that they’re whinging.
Strange.

This week Brad Scott was complaining on radio that Ben Brown gets treated unfairly by defenders and should get more free kicks. I do actually agree with him on that though
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Re: Coach Review

Postby GWW » Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:22 am

Im a Port supporter, and I agree Hinkley is the worst.

Has a decent squad, but has awful game plan, inconsistent, and players not developing adequately

Worst part is the club got sucked in in the off season, and we're stuck with him for another 3 (or 4?) years.
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