Adelaide Footy League Division 2 - 2018

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Who will win the D2 Grand Final?

Brighton
23
30%
Broadview
4
5%
Gaza
1
1%
Golden Grove
3
4%
Old Ignatians
1
1%
PHOS Camden
4
5%
Sacred Heart OC
0
No votes
Salisbury North
18
23%
St Peters OC
14
18%
Unley Mercedes Jets
9
12%
 
Total votes : 77

Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 2 - 2018

Postby whufc » Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:24 pm

Trader wrote:20k from one home game???
That's a fair amount of profit!


If the average item sold was $5 (accounting for alcohol prices that are higher but general canteen products that are cheaper) would need about 4000 transactions in the day. Seems a hell of a lot!!!
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Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 2 - 2018

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:25 pm

Trader wrote:20k from one home game???
That's a fair amount of profit!

Seems legit, food/drinks for the day, bar takings for the evening, wasn't far off a Saturday win when I ran a club.
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Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 2 - 2018

Postby Trader » Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:34 pm

whufc wrote:
Trader wrote:20k from one home game???
That's a fair amount of profit!


If the average item sold was $5 (accounting for alcohol prices that are higher but general canteen products that are cheaper) would need about 4000 transactions in the day. Seems a hell of a lot!!!


That's revenue, not profit. Assuming costs are half, then they need 8000 transactions.

It's not impossible, but seems a lot.
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Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 2 - 2018

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:47 pm

Trader wrote:
That's revenue, not profit. Assuming costs are half, then they need 8000 transactions.

It's not impossible, but seems a lot.

Going by your username, you should know.
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Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 2 - 2018

Postby jo172 » Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:55 pm

Trader wrote:
whufc wrote:
Trader wrote:20k from one home game???
That's a fair amount of profit!


If the average item sold was $5 (accounting for alcohol prices that are higher but general canteen products that are cheaper) would need about 4000 transactions in the day. Seems a hell of a lot!!!


That's revenue, not profit. Assuming costs are half, then they need 8000 transactions.

It's not impossible, but seems a lot.


We've hosted large neutral GFs, and had functions that night and haven't gotten close to that in terms of turnover.

Profit, **** me, you'd want crowds of 3000+
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Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 2 - 2018

Postby Look Good In Leather » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:11 pm

jo172 wrote:
Trader wrote:
whufc wrote:
Trader wrote:20k from one home game???
That's a fair amount of profit!


If the average item sold was $5 (accounting for alcohol prices that are higher but general canteen products that are cheaper) would need about 4000 transactions in the day. Seems a hell of a lot!!!


That's revenue, not profit. Assuming costs are half, then they need 8000 transactions.

It's not impossible, but seems a lot.


We've hosted large neutral GFs, and had functions that night and haven't gotten close to that in terms of turnover.

Profit, **** me, you'd want crowds of 3000+


I think he was suggesting that as an accumulative figure, still seems high.
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Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 2 - 2018

Postby whufc » Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:20 pm

Would clubs have the capacity to provide reports relating to 'profit totals' on a day to day basis? Im not familiar with bar/canteen operations at amateur league football clubs.

I know they would be able to provide an total income figure for the day but would items be broking down enough in their reporting to provide a 'profit figure'

My rugby club would not be able to do this as they bundle a lot of items for example wine. $5 for a glass of wine (regardless of being red or white) depending on the wine they have would fluctuate the profit margin. Sometimes the red may be off a greater value than the white but the income is all bundled under 'Wine'. Their expense is accrued across the whole month of wine purchases and would be hard for them to prove a 'profit amount.' They would be able to do this over a whole month of income vs expense but not on a day to day basis.
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Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 2 - 2018

Postby bandar » Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:29 pm

Just for the record Salisbury North only had 3 away games left for the season in the last 8.
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Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 2 - 2018

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:33 pm

whufc wrote:Would clubs have the capacity to provide reports relating to 'profit totals' on a day to day basis? Im not familiar with bar/canteen operations at amateur league football clubs.

I know they would be able to provide an total income figure for the day but would items be broking down enough in their reporting to provide a 'profit figure'

My rugby club would not be able to do this as they bundle a lot of items for example wine. $5 for a glass of wine (regardless of being red or white) depending on the wine they have would fluctuate the profit margin. Sometimes the red may be off a greater value than the white but the income is all bundled under 'Wine'. Their expense is accrued across the whole month of wine purchases and would be hard for them to prove a 'profit amount.' They would be able to do this over a whole month of income vs expense but on a day to day basis.

Absolutely they would, during my reign as a chairman (probably 10 years ago) it was my aim to get a register that calculated every purchase and linked to stock levels so we could do random spot checks to make sure everything was accounted for.

Each night whoever was doing close would have to count the money, bag it up, slide it into the slot of the safe and stash the float for the following evening.

I was all about accountability as in small non-profit clubs and organisations there are many reports of committee skimming off the top.
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Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 2 - 2018

Postby scottroo » Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:16 pm

Official from the league. Internal transfers will be cancelled
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Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 2 - 2018

Postby Dutchy » Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:18 pm

What is the definition of internal transfer?
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Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 2 - 2018

Postby heater31 » Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:20 pm

Dutchy wrote:What is the definition of internal transfer?
Different member club of the same league.....
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Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 2 - 2018

Postby Dutchy » Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:21 pm

SO they can't go to other AdFL clubs? Seems strange.
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Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 2 - 2018

Postby scottroo » Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:25 pm

Correct.

Not that strange. Allot of clubs were worried the integrity of the league would be compromised
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Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 2 - 2018

Postby Danky$$ » Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:30 pm

The league have handled this situation absolutely horrible! Well done to them for pushing away some seriously good footballers to the country leagues. They always sook about the country with the money they pay, well ya haven’t helped yourselves with this. I believe it’s an absolute joke they can’t play in the saafl.
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Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 2 - 2018

Postby Dutchy » Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:31 pm

Innocent players told they can no longer play for their club, but also can't play for other clubs....very restrictive. These players could be lost to the league for good.
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Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 2 - 2018

Postby whufc » Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:35 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
whufc wrote:Would clubs have the capacity to provide reports relating to 'profit totals' on a day to day basis? Im not familiar with bar/canteen operations at amateur league football clubs.

I know they would be able to provide an total income figure for the day but would items be broking down enough in their reporting to provide a 'profit figure'

My rugby club would not be able to do this as they bundle a lot of items for example wine. $5 for a glass of wine (regardless of being red or white) depending on the wine they have would fluctuate the profit margin. Sometimes the red may be off a greater value than the white but the income is all bundled under 'Wine'. Their expense is accrued across the whole month of wine purchases and would be hard for them to prove a 'profit amount.' They would be able to do this over a whole month of income vs expense but on a day to day basis.

Absolutely they would, during my reign as a chairman (probably 10 years ago) it was my aim to get a register that calculated every purchase and linked to stock levels so we could do random spot checks to make sure everything was accounted for.

Each night whoever was doing close would have to count the money, bag it up, slide it into the slot of the safe and stash the float for the following evening.

I was all about accountability as in small non-profit clubs and organisations there are many reports of committee skimming off the top.


Couldn’t agree more

The rugby club I’m involved are very casual and trusting about their not only their cash handling but also their stock control, reporting and profit margin policy.

Our club buys a lot of alcohol in bulk due to getting it straight from the winery and Barossa brewery and having ample storage space. I would hazard to guess the last time they did a stock take.

While their income is always accounted for they would hardly know their exact profit on a day to day basis as there till is old school and only records income (to which they bundle everything ala wine, beer, hot food, despite the expense for many items in the same category being different) with no reference to stock control on it.

I can’t convince them to change there ways though which irks me no end considering my day job means I manage a not for profit multi million dollar budget on behalf of the Council who you can imagine are extremly pedantic about financial accountability and clarity
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Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 2 - 2018

Postby scottroo » Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:44 pm

The league asked the member clubs for their opinion.

The overwhelming answer was no internal transfers
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Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 2 - 2018

Postby S Demon » Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:49 pm

scottroo wrote:The league asked the member clubs for their opinion.

The overwhelming answer was no internal transfers


43/69 said NO, with 10 still to vote
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Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 2 - 2018

Postby WingerFC » Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:59 pm

I wonder how many clubs received a personal call from JFK to drive the point home before the vote..
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