The South Australian Political Landscape

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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby Psyber » Sat Jul 14, 2018 7:05 pm

tigerpie wrote:I have to disagree.
There's an ice epidemic happening in rural areas across Australia at the moment that is ruining whole communities lives.
Dealers known to police but somehow when raided they find nothing?
Insane amounts of money being made off this crap and the penalties are not enough of a deterrent.
Anyhow it just shows how out of touch the liberal party is.


I agree about the ice epidemic, but I don't think MJ is harmless.

There was a very thorough study done at UQ a few years ago on its effects on the immature brain which found tht the incidence of Schizophrenia was increased by 20 to 25% in under 17 year olds using MJ daily. This did not show up in older users, other than those with pre-existing such illness.. That's why we need to be able to select out specific safe compounds from the THC component for medicle use.

And yes MJ does impair driving capacity.
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby bennymacca » Sat Jul 14, 2018 8:26 pm

I wouldn't think alcohol (or any drug for that matter) to be that great for young brains either would it?

I think that data would support limiting it to 18+ or something rather than banning it entirely?

(I still wouldn't use it if legal so I don't really feel strongly either way other than it seems a bit hypocritical to lump it in with the worst drugs)
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby shoe boy » Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:09 am

Psyber wrote:
tigerpie wrote:I have to disagree.
There's an ice epidemic happening in rural areas across Australia at the moment that is ruining whole communities lives.
Dealers known to police but somehow when raided they find nothing?
Insane amounts of money being made off this crap and the penalties are not enough of a deterrent.
Anyhow it just shows how out of touch the liberal party is.


I agree about the ice epidemic, but I don't think MJ is harmless.

There was a very thorough study done at UQ a few years ago on its effects on the immature brain which found tht the incidence of Schizophrenia was increased by 20 to 25% in under 17 year olds using MJ daily. This did not show up in older users, other than those with pre-existing such illness.. That's why we need to be able to select out specific safe compounds from the THC component for medicle use.

And yes MJ does impair driving capacity.


Do you think alcohol is harmless? Do you think cannabis has medicinal purpose ?
I can speak with experience and driving with cannabis is nowhere near the impairment of driving with alcohol .
What are your thoughts on legal prescribed medication that is becoming a major issue world wide ?
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby Jimmy_041 » Mon Jul 16, 2018 12:22 pm

My thoughts are about people who think driving under the influence of cannabis is better than alcohol :shock:
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby bennymacca » Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:21 pm

shoe boy wrote:
Psyber wrote:
tigerpie wrote:I have to disagree.
There's an ice epidemic happening in rural areas across Australia at the moment that is ruining whole communities lives.
Dealers known to police but somehow when raided they find nothing?
Insane amounts of money being made off this crap and the penalties are not enough of a deterrent.
Anyhow it just shows how out of touch the liberal party is.


I agree about the ice epidemic, but I don't think MJ is harmless.

There was a very thorough study done at UQ a few years ago on its effects on the immature brain which found tht the incidence of Schizophrenia was increased by 20 to 25% in under 17 year olds using MJ daily. This did not show up in older users, other than those with pre-existing such illness.. That's why we need to be able to select out specific safe compounds from the THC component for medicle use.

And yes MJ does impair driving capacity.


Do you think alcohol is harmless? Do you think cannabis has medicinal purpose ?
I can speak with experience and driving with cannabis is nowhere near the impairment of driving with alcohol .
What are your thoughts on legal prescribed medication that is becoming a major issue world wide ?


Shoe boy is a stoner? who knew? ;)
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby tigerpie » Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:55 pm

Psyber wrote:
tigerpie wrote:I have to disagree.
There's an ice epidemic happening in rural areas across Australia at the moment that is ruining whole communities lives.
Dealers known to police but somehow when raided they find nothing?
Insane amounts of money being made off this crap and the penalties are not enough of a deterrent.
Anyhow it just shows how out of touch the liberal party is.


I agree about the ice epidemic, but I don't think MJ is harmless.

There was a very thorough study done at UQ a few years ago on its effects on the immature brain which found tht the incidence of Schizophrenia was increased by 20 to 25% in under 17 year olds using MJ daily. This did not show up in older users, other than those with pre-existing such illness.. That's why we need to be able to select out specific safe compounds from the THC component for medicle use.

And yes MJ does impair driving capacity.

Im not saying pot is harmless and yes it can impair your driving ability.
What I'm saying is its ridiculous to want to send someone to jail for possessing a small amount at a concert for instance.
At festivals they are testing pills before the kids take them ffs.
Its the libs trying to big note themselves. Totally off the mark....as usual!
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby shoe boy » Tue Jul 17, 2018 12:19 pm

Do you think alcohol is harmless? Do you think cannabis has medicinal purpose ?
I can speak with experience and driving with cannabis is nowhere near the impairment of driving with alcohol .
What are your thoughts on legal prescribed medication that is becoming a major issue world wide ?[/quote]

Shoe boy is a stoner? who knew? ;)[/quote]

For the record I haven't drank alcohol for 15 years and don't miss it .
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby MW » Tue Jul 17, 2018 12:22 pm

Anyone who says MJ doesn't affect you long term has not known people who it has affected...
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby Psyber » Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:00 pm

From personal experience I think a couple of puffs on a joint impair my concentration more than a couple of glasses of wine or beer, but I only tried it twice, as I didn't like the effect of being dulled that much. Admittedly, it was the "good stuff" my Hell's Angels acquaintaces at the time kept for themselves...

The induction of much higher risks of Schizophrenia in the young concerns me, and I'll be much happier with MJ products when we can separate the useful alkaloids from the THC which seems to be the harmful and non-therapeutic component.

My experience years ago of "coke" straight of the tree when overseas was a more positive one, but I've never bothered to try that again either. I value my brain function too much to muck around with it.
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby tigerpie » Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:23 pm

Psyber wrote:From personal experience I think a couple of puffs on a joint impair my concentration more than a couple of glasses of wine or beer, but I only tried it twice, as I didn't like the effect of being dulled that much. Admittedly, it was the "good stuff" my Hell's Angels acquaintaces at the time kept for themselves...

The induction of much higher risks of Schizophrenia in the young concerns me, and I'll be much happier with MJ products when we can separate the useful alkaloids from the THC which seems to be the harmful and non-therapeutic component.

My experience years ago of "coke" straight of the tree when overseas was a more positive one, but I've never bothered to try that again either. I value my brain function too much to muck around with it.

I read an article the other day saying THC can prevent Alzheimer's.
Not sure of its validity though.
The skunk strain ( if its still called that) is killer for young teen minds. Very dangerous indeed!
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby shoe boy » Thu Jul 26, 2018 8:23 am

Psyber wrote:From personal experience I think a couple of puffs on a joint impair my concentration more than a couple of glasses of wine or beer, but I only tried it twice, as I didn't like the effect of being dulled that much. Admittedly, it was the "good stuff" my Hell's Angels acquaintaces at the time kept for themselves...

The induction of much higher risks of Schizophrenia in the young concerns me, and I'll be much happier with MJ products when we can separate the useful alkaloids from the THC which seems to be the harmful and non-therapeutic component.

My experience years ago of "coke" straight of the tree when overseas was a more positive one, but I've never bothered to try that again either. I value my brain function too much to muck around with it.


What drugs are you one :-?
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby whufc » Thu Aug 23, 2018 7:16 pm

LaughingKookaburra wrote:
Jimmy_041 wrote:
Booney wrote:Shopping deregulation....now there's something we desperately need.


I must admit I'm a bit lost on it all (and I'm being serious here)

Woolworths Marryatville is open 7am to 5pm on Saturdays and 11am to 5pm on a Sundays
All of the anti (I hear) is about Woolworths and Coles dominating and the demise of their competitors by extending shopping hours
What? 4 hours extra on a Sunday morning (or am I missing something?)
And who wants to go to the supermarket at 7am on a Sunday anyway?
Fair enough on a Saturday as you go to sport or get the gear for the BBQ


No, they will stay open until 9 or 10 pm 7 days a week. Maybe until 12 midnight or 24 hours in some cases depending on the viability. What small businesses are open during those hours anyway?

With my work I do a hell of an amount of travel intrastate. My favourite is when I go to places like Mt Barker, Mt Gambier and Berri (where trading hour laws are far more relaxed to assist the economy and tourism) and I see those posters up everywhere claiming that de-regulation will kill our economy and small business. These are locations where the hours are pretty much de-regulated anyway and it may add seriously another 1-2 hours per week.


Same in Clare

Our Woolworths are open to 8pm on both a Saturday and Sunday nights.

It’s brilliant and surprisingly extremely often that I’m there between 5pm-8pm
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:35 am

Not a bad budget from the Libs
Matty Wade is a star and deserves more respect from the forum family!
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby bennymacca » Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:06 pm

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Not a bad budget from the Libs


I’m happy they are starting work on the three terrible intersections near me

Tulloch Rd, Potts Rd and Dalkeith Rd

Think that was mostly lobbying by Tony Piccolo, so we’ll done to him
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby Jimmy_041 » Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:28 pm

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Not a bad budget from the Libs


Agree
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby stan » Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:18 pm

Jimmy_041 wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Not a bad budget from the Libs


Agree
Yeah fairly well balanced I thought.
Read my reply. It is directed at you because you have double standards
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby stan » Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:01 am

Oh Vicky, that mouth of yours was always going to get you into trouble at some point.
Read my reply. It is directed at you because you have double standards
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby shoe boy » Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:55 am

stan wrote:Oh Vicky, that mouth of yours was always going to get you into trouble at some point.


No surprise and lets not forget the spud Wingard 8-}
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Fri Nov 16, 2018 9:57 am

The problem is, Labor are in no ******* position to really call the Libs out on anything given the many debacles they resided over.
Matty Wade is a star and deserves more respect from the forum family!
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

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