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Re: Preliminary Final teams.

Postby StrayDog » Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:02 pm

Aerie wrote:For 115 minutes when it was 18 vs 18, Eagles 95 to North 92.
For 5 minutes when it was 19 vs 18, North 8 to Eagles 0.

The only solution that sits right with me, is a full replay next Sunday.

Which would ordinarily be Grand Final day, giving North the advantage. ;)
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Re: Preliminary Final teams.

Postby Eagles2014 » Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:02 pm

Aerie wrote:For 115 minutes when it was 18 vs 18, Eagles 95 to North 92.
For 5 minutes when it was 19 vs 18, North 8 to Eagles 0.

The only solution that sits right with me, is a full replay next Sunday.


As Wedgetail said, if North win the GF it will have an asterisk next to its name.

If Eagles win the GF after this, it will also have an asterisk next to its name.

Norwood probably should they way they fit all these gun players under the salary cap too!!

SANFL may as well just finish the year up now and not bother playing the GF!
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Re: Preliminary Final teams.

Postby Dutchy » Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:12 pm

Eagles merge again this week with North and they put a combined team to play Norwood, call them the Feathered Friends!
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Re: Preliminary Final teams.

Postby gadj1976 » Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:13 pm

It can't just be a free kick otherwise teams will do this to stop a run on. The penalty needs to be the removal of all scores.

However, in this instance, if the Eagles captain didn't ask the umpires for a headcount, then why are they complaining? If they know the rules, go about the right process to ensure they are enforced.

If they DID go about the right process, then the SANFL must remove those responsible.

If they didn't go about the right process, then they have themselves to blame. Play on.
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Re: Preliminary Final teams.

Postby Jim05 » Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:14 pm

Greg Edwards now with a nice little retort
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Re: Preliminary Final teams.

Postby Corona Man » Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:15 pm

You'd think the North coaching box would have realized that a "magnet" they had on the bench was picking up a heap of kicks across half back!
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Re: Preliminary Final teams.

Postby Jim05 » Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:17 pm

Aerie wrote:For 115 minutes when it was 18 vs 18, Eagles 95 to North 92.
For 5 minutes when it was 19 vs 18, North 8 to Eagles 0.

The only solution that sits right with me, is a full replay next Sunday.

Cool, just like a junior carnival.
North v Eagles, then the Ressies GF followed by the league GF.
That will give the winner a couple of hours rest before challenging us :)
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Re: Preliminary Final teams.

Postby mots02 » Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:20 pm

Corona Man wrote:You'd think the North coaching box would have realized that a "magnet" they had on the bench was picking up a heap of kicks across half back!


That's the bit that i haven't seen explained anywhere yet.... how did multiple officials from North not notice for nearly 5 mins?!
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Re: Preliminary Final teams.

Postby woodublieve12 » Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:25 pm

Without scrolling through the pages, did the captain ask for a head count?
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Re: Preliminary Final teams.

Postby Corona Man » Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:27 pm

mots02 wrote:
Corona Man wrote:You'd think the North coaching box would have realized that a "magnet" they had on the bench was picking up a heap of kicks across half back!


That's the bit that i haven't seen explained anywhere yet.... how did multiple officials from North not notice for nearly 5 mins?!

Maybe they did? Then they didn't know how to sneak the extra bloke off without raising attention, maybe?

God knows. Its a debacle now.
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Re: Preliminary Final teams.

Postby Magellan » Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:27 pm

woodublieve12 wrote:Without scrolling through the pages, did the captain ask for a head count?

The short answer is no.
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Re: Preliminary Final teams.

Postby Magellan » Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:31 pm

Aerie wrote:
Magellan wrote:Who was the extra player?

Jarrod Allmond

How do you know it was Allmond?
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Re: Preliminary Final teams.

Postby Look Good In Leather » Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:33 pm

Both teams stuffed up, North obviously by having too many on the park & Eagles by not calling for a head-count.

Under laws of the game the result should stand - North rolled the dice and got away with it.

If the SANFL does choose to penalise North through a change of result, realistically they have two options...

1) Replay the game at the time the GF would have been played - this would allow the GF to play in it's rightful timeslot of the Sunday of the longweekend.

2) Disqualify North, Norwood are awarded the Premiership.

Eagles have no claim on the match result as they had their opportunity to act (headcount) and they did not take it. If the SANFL decided to give it to the Eagles (or option 2 above), I can see this heading to the Supreme Court as North could challenge that it would be in breach of the organisation's laws, and as such we likely would not have a result for weeks.
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Re: Preliminary Final teams.

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:33 pm

As a member of the NAFC I received this email around noon today.

As you are most likely aware, there has been some controversy surrounding our great win in the Preliminary Final yesterday regarding having 19 men take the field at the beginning of the last quarter. As we have acknowledged, this is correct and was the result of an accidental interchange issue where our bench thought we still had one player in the changerooms getting treatment. This was not the case, and as soon as we realised we had an extra player on the field, a player was immediately removed, being a few minutes into the quarter. This was not picked up at the time by the interchange stewards either.

This incident was subsequently reported to the SANFL post match and the SANFL are reviewing the matter and updating the clubs when possible. We hope to have resolution to this matter today, and in the meantime we are continuing our preparation to play Norwood in the Grand Final this Sunday.
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Re: Preliminary Final teams.

Postby knowledge » Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:38 pm

Someone, claiming to be an WWT member has posted on 'Adelaide Now' that they have received an email from WWT that the club's lawyers have served papers on the SANFL at midday today. Kind of appropriate. A high noon stoush! Strap yourself in and get ready for the ride! It's about to get supercharged...... Rob Gerard will be on the phone to Greg Griifin right now!
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Re: Preliminary Final teams.

Postby BoundaryRider84 » Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:43 pm

So what did SANFL decide
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Re: Preliminary Final teams.

Postby Magellan » Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:45 pm

BoundaryRider84 wrote:So what did SANFL decide

Still going.
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Re: Preliminary Final teams.

Postby Magellan » Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:47 pm

knowledge wrote:Someone, claiming to be an WWT member has posted on 'Adelaide Now' that they have received an email from WWT that the club's lawyers have served papers on the SANFL at midday today. Kind of appropriate. A high noon stoush! Strap yourself in and get ready for the ride! It's about to get supercharged...... Rob Gerard will be on the phone to Greg Griifin right now!

Can someone from the Eagles camp post that email? Very interesting developments, if true.
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Re: Preliminary Final teams.

Postby Booney » Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:48 pm

SANFL have handed it over to the SA Football Commission who will be briefed this afternoon.
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Re: Preliminary Final teams.

Postby Booney » Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:50 pm

Luke Powell, WWT football boss, confirmed they approached SANFL staff about the extra man but could not arrange a message to the captain before the extra player came off the ground.
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