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Re: Preliminary Final

Postby JK » Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:57 am

From memory Luke Jericho copped a suspension several years ago for saying far less
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Re: Preliminary Final

Postby PatowalongaPirate » Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:06 am

whybother wrote:But still no investigation into exactly what happened and why


What Happened? - North Cheated
Why? - To gain an advantage
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Re: Preliminary Final

Postby DOC » Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:11 am

Cheating is deliberate. This was not deliberate.
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Re: Preliminary Final

Postby goddy11 » Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:47 am

DOC wrote:Cheating is deliberate. This was not deliberate.

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Re: Preliminary Final

Postby DOC » Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:52 am

I do not think North intended to have 19 on. A stuff up no doubt.
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Re: Preliminary Final

Postby Hopeful Jelly » Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:57 am

JK wrote:From memory Luke Jericho copped a suspension several years ago for saying far less

Is this the one?
https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/af ... 19f4126e35

Got a reprimand - no suspension or fine. But yes, a lot lower on the scale.
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Re: Preliminary Final

Postby JK » Thu Oct 18, 2018 11:17 am

Hopeful Jelly wrote:
JK wrote:From memory Luke Jericho copped a suspension several years ago for saying far less

Is this the one?
https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/af ... 19f4126e35

Got a reprimand - no suspension or fine. But yes, a lot lower on the scale.


Must have been mate, I thought he got a game. Regardless, the league’s made it pretty clear and all clubs and players know the drill - Whilst Seb would have obviously been distressed after losing such a big final, think he was always gonna cop some sort of whack for an outburst of that nature
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Re: Preliminary Final

Postby goddy11 » Thu Oct 18, 2018 11:23 am

Guilhaus pleaded guilty to the charge, which was heard before SANFL Tribunal panel chairman Ian White.

Interesting Ian White is a former NA player. :o
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Re: Preliminary Final

Postby Hopeful Jelly » Thu Oct 18, 2018 11:25 am

DOC wrote:Cheating is deliberate. This was not deliberate.

Yes, most (if not all people) accept that it was not deliberate, but "cheating" does not have to be deliberate.

Think of a sportsperson accidentally taking a drug that is on the banned list - eg. Shane Warne with the diuretic, or the Essendon players (if they did actually take what the authorities thought they did), etc. They didn't act "deliberately" to gain an advantage, but it's still cheating.

Regarding Seb's comments, there were other players commenting about the 19th man, but the worst part of it (which was missed by some media outlets) was mentioning the 31-17 free kick count and suggesting that the umpiring was rigged.

A 3-match ban might be right if maybe a little harsh, but comparing that to NA's 2-match penalty and fine (that was recouped just by playing in the GF) for actually "cheating", it might be considered laughable by some.
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Re: Preliminary Final

Postby woodublieve12 » Thu Oct 18, 2018 11:36 am

Someone got a ban for a comment on facebook... That's a joke. What is the SANFL coming too.
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Re: Preliminary Final

Postby Groucho » Thu Oct 18, 2018 3:21 pm

Is this the old East Germany or North Korea?

What a joke. He would have got less games for striking.
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Re: Preliminary Final

Postby whybother » Thu Oct 18, 2018 3:39 pm

How come this suspension is not reported like other tribunals are reported? ie Base sanction, reduced by so much for good record etc etc . Was Seb's match penalty actually much higher than the 3 match suspension that he has to serve?
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Re: Preliminary Final

Postby Booney » Thu Oct 18, 2018 3:43 pm

woodublieve12 wrote:Someone got a ban for a comment on facebook... That's a joke. What is the SANFL coming too.


SAAFL club have social media policies, I'm sure the WWTFC do as well, it's just Gilhaus and Boyd didn't listen at the meeting.
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Re: Preliminary Final

Postby amber_fluid » Thu Oct 18, 2018 3:49 pm

woodublieve12 wrote:Someone got a ban for a comment on facebook... That's a joke. What is the SANFL coming too.


Ridiculous isn’t it.
What happen to freedom of speech?

All this PC is absolute crud!

People and entities are so precious these days.
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Re: Preliminary Final

Postby Wedgie » Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:26 pm

goddy11 wrote:Guilhaus pleaded guilty to the charge, which was heard before SANFL Tribunal panel chairman Ian White.

Interesting Ian White is a former NA player. :o

And South Adelaide! :D
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Re: Preliminary Final

Postby Wedgie » Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:29 pm

whybother wrote:How come this suspension is not reported like other tribunals are reported? ie Base sanction, reduced by so much for good record etc etc . Was Seb's match penalty actually much higher than the 3 match suspension that he has to serve?

He was high so that was 2 matches.
It was a forceful impact comment so that was 2 matches.
It was deliberate so that was 2 matches.
His past record of being a loser added another 2.

8 matches reduced to 3 matches because he choked on 5 of them so they were suspended.
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Re: Preliminary Final

Postby locky801 » Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:12 pm

Wedgie wrote:
whybother wrote:How come this suspension is not reported like other tribunals are reported? ie Base sanction, reduced by so much for good record etc etc . Was Seb's match penalty actually much higher than the 3 match suspension that he has to serve?

He was high so that was 2 matches.
It was a forceful impact comment so that was 2 matches.
It was deliberate so that was 2 matches.
His past record of being a loser added another 2.

8 matches reduced to 3 matches because he choked on 5 of them so they were suspended.


should have been given 19
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Re: Preliminary Final

Postby amber_fluid » Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:12 pm

Wedgie wrote:
whybother wrote:How come this suspension is not reported like other tribunals are reported? ie Base sanction, reduced by so much for good record etc etc . Was Seb's match penalty actually much higher than the 3 match suspension that he has to serve?

He was high so that was 2 matches.
It was a forceful impact comment so that was 2 matches.
It was deliberate so that was 2 matches.
His past record of being a loser added another 2.

8 matches reduced to 3 matches because he choked on 5 of them so they were suspended.


+1 for being intentional
-1 for pleading guilty(well sort of as his rant was in his name)
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Re: Preliminary Final

Postby goddy11 » Fri Oct 19, 2018 2:41 pm

Does anyone know if Seb quoted on his private Facebook account or was it on the SANFL Facebook. If he posted on his own account did someone dob him in. Poor form if that's the case.
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Re: Preliminary Final

Postby Booney » Fri Oct 19, 2018 2:48 pm

goddy11 wrote:Does anyone know if Seb quoted on his private Facebook account or was it on the SANFL Facebook. If he posted on his own account did someone dob him in. Poor form if that's the case.


Poor form by him or the person who "dobbed" him in?

It's one of two things, Gilhaus was dumb or Gilhaus was dumb. You can have it either way.
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