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Re: ATCA

Postby tigerpie » Mon Nov 12, 2018 6:05 pm

helicopterking wrote:
tigerpie wrote:Anyone had a look at heccies first change bowler?
On the border line at best.


His action?
Hamman or De Silva?

Hamman. Just didn't look right when he was trying to loosen up his elbow after delivering a couple.
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Re: ATCA

Postby Sonofbrowny25 » Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:16 am

A2 Results had some big scores.

4 scores over 300 (2 in the same game )
2 of those over 350.
1 of 280

Marion outright Woody south was a shock! didn't see that happening, Marion as per usual flying out the gates early in the season.

Rocs probably not expecting the start they have had.

Heccies and Unley look to be struggling early.
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Re: ATCA

Postby helicopterking » Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:04 pm

Sonofbrowny25 wrote:A2 Results had some big scores.

4 scores over 300 (2 in the same game )
2 of those over 350.
1 of 280

Marion outright Woody south was a shock! didn't see that happening, Marion as per usual flying out the gates early in the season.

Rocs probably not expecting the start they have had.

Heccies and Unley look to be struggling early.


Some seriously flat decks and lightening quick outfields helping the scoring.
Flinders Park Oval combined scores
Round 1 540 runs
Round 2 635 runs
Round 3 712 runs
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Re: ATCA

Postby tigerpie » Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:18 pm

tigerpie wrote:
helicopterking wrote:
tigerpie wrote:Anyone had a look at heccies first change bowler?
On the border line at best.


His action?
Hamman or De Silva?

Hamman. Just didn't look right when he was trying to loosen up his elbow after delivering a couple.

So have you seen him bowl?
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Re: ATCA

Postby thevoice » Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:38 pm

tigerpie wrote:
helicopterking wrote:
tigerpie wrote:Anyone had a look at heccies first change bowler?
On the border line at best.


His action?
Hamman or De Silva?

Hamman. Just didn't look right when he was trying to loosen up his elbow after delivering a couple.


Did the Umps have a look at it?
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Re: ATCA

Postby tigerpie » Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:09 pm

We only had one. So no square leg.
I was sitting side on and his action just didn't look right.
Just wondering if anyone else has seen him bowl.
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Re: ATCA

Postby Tony Clifton » Wed Nov 14, 2018 6:00 am

tigerpie wrote:We only had one. So no square leg.
I was sitting side on and his action just didn't look right.
Just wondering if anyone else has seen him bowl.

Yeah I've seen him bowl but was a while ago (school cricket) and his action was ok back then

However... he was one of those bowlers who jack-knifes his body over to the left during delivery and bowls past the perpendicular. Bowled mostly inswingers.

I've seen quite a few 'chuckers' develop from this starting point. Someone clueless gets in their ear and tells them they need to bowl outswingers. The only way they can get their wrist around the other side of the ball and shape them away with this 'inswing action' they have is to bend their arm and chuck it
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Re: ATCA

Postby heater31 » Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:16 pm

Bit of an odd one in B1 today......opening bowler hits batsman on thigh pad trying to work it to leg. Bounces off that to the back of the bat in the same motion of playing the shot, ball carries to 1st slip. Not given by a paid umpire....
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Re: ATCA

Postby Senor Moto Gadili » Sun Nov 18, 2018 7:47 am

No ATCA scores in my Sunday Mail ..... BOO! Anyone got any scores?. In A1, Ingle Farm bowled Grange out for 107 and are 4/64 in reply.
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Re: ATCA

Postby thevoice » Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:10 am

Scores up online a1 Para Hills look in strife vs Old Scotch, Ports and spoc evenly placed 2/35 chasing 215.
A2 - marion would be in strife this year if cox hadn’t fired, Lone hand again. But with the form of duff and Rosey, the 260 they posted looks unders.
Trinity flogged Pooraka on day 1 and O’hara Not even playing. only 60 more to get on d2. They’d be loooking outright I reckon with them missing at least one of their a graders that normally sits in the b’s. Reynella out for 174 v Fulham, seems unders for what is normally a 300 wicket.
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Re: ATCA

Postby heater31 » Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:42 am

Senor Moto Gadili wrote:No ATCA scores in my Sunday Mail ..... BOO! Anyone got any scores?. In A1, Ingle Farm bowled Grange out for 107 and are 4/64 in reply.
The new 'email' system working well then.....
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Re: ATCA

Postby helicopterking » Sun Nov 18, 2018 9:13 am

thevoice wrote:Scores up online a1 Para Hills look in strife vs Old Scotch, Ports and spoc evenly placed 2/35 chasing 215.
A2 - marion would be in strife this year if cox hadn’t fired, Lone hand again. But with the form of duff and Rosey, the 260 they posted looks unders.
Trinity flogged Pooraka on day 1 and O’hara Not even playing. only 60 more to get on d2. They’d be loooking outright I reckon with them missing at least one of their a graders that normally sits in the b’s. Reynella out for 174 v Fulham, seems unders for what is normally a 300 wicket.


Showers around during the week will help teams who batted yesterday.
Unley were 2/78 chasing Golden Grove 93
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Re: ATCA

Postby Trader » Mon Nov 19, 2018 11:49 am

Old Scotch with a handy import this week.
Not every day a bloke plays T20 and ODIs against England then rolls out for an A1 game 3 weeks later.
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Re: ATCA

Postby Trader » Mon Nov 19, 2018 11:51 am

heater31 wrote:Bit of an odd one in B1 today......opening bowler hits batsman on thigh pad trying to work it to leg. Bounces off that to the back of the bat in the same motion of playing the shot, ball carries to 1st slip. Not given by a paid umpire....


Very strange. David Steinway by any chance? haha
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Re: ATCA

Postby Trader » Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:00 pm

tigerpie wrote:I think the ATCA can use discretion and award a draw.
If payneham really have a problem with that then come out and say it.
They'd get slammed!
Its a draw end of story.


Well as a professional organisation, with millions on the line, the Geelong Footy Club were willing to concede a draw to the crows 5 days after the Phil Walsh incident, however the Payneham Cricket club wouldn't show the same compassion and expected 10 amateurs with none of the same support structures to rock up less than 24 hours after the news and play a game.

After Heyzer changed to scores to a draw, Payneham have now had it changed back to a forfeit.

They really know how to paint themselves in a good light don't they.
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Re: ATCA

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:01 pm

Trader wrote:
Well as a professional organisation, with millions on the line, the Geelong Footy Club were willing to concede a draw to the crows 5 days after the Phil Walsh incident, however the Payneham Cricket club wouldn't show the same compassion and expected 10 amateurs with none of the same support structures to rock up less than 24 hours after the news and play a game.

After Heyzer changed to scores to a draw, Payneham have now had it changed back to a forfeit.

They really know how to paint themselves in a good light don't they.

Very poor form indeed.
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Re: ATCA

Postby daysofourlives » Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:21 pm

Trader wrote:
tigerpie wrote:I think the ATCA can use discretion and award a draw.
If payneham really have a problem with that then come out and say it.
They'd get slammed!
Its a draw end of story.


Well as a professional organisation, with millions on the line, the Geelong Footy Club were willing to concede a draw to the crows 5 days after the Phil Walsh incident, however the Payneham Cricket club wouldn't show the same compassion and expected 10 amateurs with none of the same support structures to rock up less than 24 hours after the news and play a game.

After Heyzer changed to scores to a draw, Payneham have now had it changed back to a forfeit.

They really know how to paint themselves in a good light don't they.

Surely the league will decide what the result is??
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Re: ATCA

Postby Brumbies » Mon Nov 19, 2018 3:40 pm

Trader wrote:
tigerpie wrote:I think the ATCA can use discretion and award a draw.
If payneham really have a problem with that then come out and say it.
They'd get slammed!
Its a draw end of story.


Well as a professional organisation, with millions on the line, the Geelong Footy Club were willing to concede a draw to the crows 5 days after the Phil Walsh incident, however the Payneham Cricket club wouldn't show the same compassion and expected 10 amateurs with none of the same support structures to rock up less than 24 hours after the news and play a game.

After Heyzer changed to scores to a draw, Payneham have now had it changed back to a forfeit.

They really know how to paint themselves in a good light don't they.


Do you know if Payneham did actually request it be changed back or was it ATCA's decision?
Genuine question as we haven't had any communication from ATCA about the result, so I don't know.
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Re: ATCA

Postby Trader » Mon Nov 19, 2018 3:53 pm

My understanding is as follows:

Saturday lunch time, payneham enter the result as a forfeit.
Saturday afternoon, Heyzer changed the result to a draw (probably should be match abandoned, but that's a minor detail).
Sunday payneham lodged a submission with the turf requesting the result be returned to a forfeit.
Wednesday, Heyzer edited the result back to a forfeit.

To make things even more Interesting, he hasn't awarded them the full points that they would get for a forfeit.
IE: for a forfeit they should get the 18 points, plus those already earned, (10 wickets and 73 runs), which would give a total of 22.095
For whatever reason, the turf have said 22.095 is not appropriate, and adjusted it to 15.995, which is the equivalent of a win, 10 wickets and 199.33 runs, with no second innings.

If I were Pooraka, I'll be making an enquiry as to why the match hasn't been considered abandoned.
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Re: ATCA

Postby Arch44 » Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:20 pm

Very ordinary if match isn't a draw.
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