Australian Domestic Season 2018-19

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Re: Australian Domestic Season 2018-19

Postby Sonofbrowny25 » Thu Nov 29, 2018 9:04 am

Armchair expert wrote:Stoinis has a worse FC record than Marsh

Last three seasons averages

17.90
17.30
27.75. This year


i wouldn't look into last year, the bloke was injured and had stuff going on off field i'm fairly sure.
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Re: Australian Domestic Season 2018-19

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu Nov 29, 2018 9:07 am

Armchair expert wrote:Stoinis has a worse FC record than Marsh

Last three seasons averages

17.90
17.30
27.75. This year


I didn't say either of them deserved a spot ;)

With our batting depth I don't think an all-rounder is totally necessary, Cummins, Starc and Lyon can all defend themselves, so too Hazelwood.

WA have produced so many "in between" players, dating back to Marcus North, they've had so many players that smash it at domestic level but struggle to produce consistently at the top level, is it pitch related?
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Re: Australian Domestic Season 2018-19

Postby RB » Thu Nov 29, 2018 9:15 am

I'm not sure that that many of the WA players picked for Australia in recent years have 'smashed it' at domestic level. There have been quite a number of them picked on perceived potential without standing out in the Shield.
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Re: Australian Domestic Season 2018-19

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu Nov 29, 2018 9:18 am

RB wrote:I'm not sure that that many of the WA players picked for Australia in recent years have 'smashed it' at domestic level. There have been quite a number of them picked on perceived potential without standing out in the Shield.

Would be an interesting project, especially over all three forms.
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Re: Australian Domestic Season 2018-19

Postby Tony Clifton » Thu Nov 29, 2018 10:35 am

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Re: Australian Domestic Season 2018-19

Postby Armchair expert » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:29 am

Lead by 228 only 3 down
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Re: Australian Domestic Season 2018-19

Postby The Bedge » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:33 am

Armchair expert wrote:Lead by 228 only 3 down

Watch us get rolled for less than 200 as the pitch suddenly becomes "bowler friendly" again. :lol:
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Re: Australian Domestic Season 2018-19

Postby Tony Clifton » Thu Nov 29, 2018 4:22 pm

Tassie still batting.

They know we've only got 10 wickets right? Not thirty
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Re: Australian Domestic Season 2018-19

Postby jackpot jim » Thu Nov 29, 2018 4:45 pm

The Bedge wrote:
Armchair expert wrote:Lead by 228 only 3 down

Watch us get rolled for less than 200 as the pitch suddenly becomes "bowler friendly" again. :lol:



Spot on
After Tas cruised to 8/353 Dec and leaving the Crapbacks 403 for victory, Weatherald gone 1st over 1/0 :roll:
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Re: Australian Domestic Season 2018-19

Postby Armchair expert » Thu Nov 29, 2018 4:47 pm

What a team!
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Re: Australian Domestic Season 2018-19

Postby David Brent » Thu Nov 29, 2018 4:51 pm

I get blokes can be just plain out of from but with Weatherald you have to ponder if the winter at the Cricket Academy has helped him or not. Seemed to be going okay last year & not sure if they have altered his technique or what but he has gone backwards quickly.
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Re: Australian Domestic Season 2018-19

Postby Armchair expert » Thu Nov 29, 2018 7:41 pm

Mitch Marsh with 30 and 2 wickets in the second innings, that enough for him to be named vice captain in the test team.
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Re: Australian Domestic Season 2018-19

Postby whufc » Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:17 pm

Not sure arguably the best bowling attack in the world needs a 5th all rounder / bowler whose not strong enough with the bat to hold their spot
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Re: Australian Domestic Season 2018-19

Postby The Dark Knight » Thu Nov 29, 2018 9:33 pm

whufc wrote:Not sure arguably the best bowling attack in the world needs a 5th all rounder / bowler whose not strong enough with the bat to hold their spot
Probably a good idea to play the 6 batsman to bolster the batting- Finch, Harris, Khawaja, S. Marsh, Handscomb and Head. Also, I think Marsh with his military medium pace will be the weak link in the attack and the Indians will take him apart and score bulk runs off him.

Won't happen though, Marsh will play.
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Re: Australian Domestic Season 2018-19

Postby The Dark Knight » Thu Nov 29, 2018 9:42 pm

Queensland win by 8 wickets
Vic second innings 191
Harris 62
Steketee 4/49

Queensland second innings 2/90

Tas v SA, stumps day three
Tas second innings 8/353 declared
Silk 113
Bailey 63
Worrall 3/83

SA second innings 1/16, trail by 386

WA v NSW stumps day three
NSW second innings 253
Henriques 48
Richardson 3/58

WA second inning 6/115, trial by 201
Stoinis 52*
Copeland 3/54
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Re: Australian Domestic Season 2018-19

Postby Eagles2014 » Thu Nov 29, 2018 10:39 pm

David Brent wrote:I get blokes can be just plain out of from but with Weatherald you have to ponder if the winter at the Cricket Academy has helped him or not. Seemed to be going okay last year & not sure if they have altered his technique or what but he has gone backwards quickly.


Just saw replay of his dismissal, leaving a ball on middle stump, absolutely plum. That shows a man out of form.

No doubt Ferg will make a 50 this innings to save his spot, so Weatherald must be dropped for the last Shield game before the break and replaced with Kelvin Smith.
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Re: Australian Domestic Season 2018-19

Postby RB » Thu Nov 29, 2018 10:40 pm

Copeland's taken a few wickets this year, been NSW's leading wicket-taker in just about every innings it seems.
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Re: Australian Domestic Season 2018-19

Postby David Brent » Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:15 am

4 down already, Ferg still in who will no doubt put some runs on the board when it doesn't matter again.
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Re: Australian Domestic Season 2018-19

Postby Lightning McQueen » Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:01 pm

David Brent wrote:I get blokes can be just plain out of from but with Weatherald you have to ponder if the winter at the Cricket Academy has helped him or not. Seemed to be going okay last year & not sure if they have altered his technique or what but he has gone backwards quickly.

How do we do this to players?

Ludeman was on top of the world one season, a dunce the next.

Perhaps the BBL throws their name in front of us.
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Re: Australian Domestic Season 2018-19

Postby The Bedge » Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:09 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
David Brent wrote:I get blokes can be just plain out of from but with Weatherald you have to ponder if the winter at the Cricket Academy has helped him or not. Seemed to be going okay last year & not sure if they have altered his technique or what but he has gone backwards quickly.

How do we do this to players?

Ludeman was on top of the world one season, a dunce the next.

Perhaps the BBL throws their name in front of us.

When people talk about players at the top of the game, churning out runs regularly, you hear often "understand their game" or "know their game".. unfortunately, it seems, particularly early on when someone shows potential that the CA "experts" like to come in and tinker with techniques or change players styles. It's practically a complete reset of what they know.

It seems it's not until they reach the later parts of their careers they realise **** looking pretty and listening to Greg Chappell, i'm going to do what works for me.. and natural talent takes over from those faulty techs and they have success.

Also T20 and the new SS scoring system have played a massive part in fluctuating performance - players need to come and look to score every ball, be creative and 360 degree players.
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