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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

Postby Brodlach » Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:39 am

Anyone think the Libs might install Julia Bishop as leader early next year? So much talk of the Libs being a boys club this would turn them on their head
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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

Postby Booney » Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:25 am

Brodlach wrote:Anyone think the Libs might install Julia Bishop as leader early next year? So much talk of the Libs being a boys club this would turn them on their head


They could put Humphrey B Bear in charge and I wouldn't be surprised.
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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

Postby cracka » Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:30 am

Brodlach wrote:Anyone think the Libs might install Julia Bishop as leader early next year? So much talk of the Libs being a boys club this would turn them on their head

If she has any brains she'd say no to it until after the next election which Libs will lose in a big way
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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

Postby Brodlach » Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:45 am

cracka wrote:
Brodlach wrote:Anyone think the Libs might install Julia Bishop as leader early next year? So much talk of the Libs being a boys club this would turn them on their head

If she has any brains she'd say no to it until after the next election which Libs will lose in a big way


But then could be opposition leader for at least 2 terms. Install her now and it might mitigate some damage
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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

Postby stan » Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:55 pm

Brodlach wrote:
cracka wrote:
Brodlach wrote:Anyone think the Libs might install Julia Bishop as leader early next year? So much talk of the Libs being a boys club this would turn them on their head

If she has any brains she'd say no to it until after the next election which Libs will lose in a big way


But then could be opposition leader for at least 2 terms. Install her now and it might mitigate some damage
Nope, the conservative factions will won't do it.

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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

Postby tigerpie » Fri Nov 30, 2018 7:34 pm

She doesn't want the top job, she'd much rather be a deputy.
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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

Postby Brodlach » Fri Nov 30, 2018 7:45 pm

She did put her hand up last vote when ScoMo won
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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

Postby Q. » Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:43 pm

As if the Libs hadn't done enough to alienate actual voters, Matt Canavan is managing to do the same to the next generation of voters.
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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

Postby Spargo » Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:39 pm

Q. wrote:As if the Libs hadn't done enough to alienate actual voters, Matt Canavan is managing to do the same to the next generation of voters.


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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:42 am

What did Matt do?
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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

Postby Q. » Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:38 am

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:What did Matt do?


Resources Minister Matt Canavan said he wanted children in school learning about how to build mines, do geology and how to drill for oil and gas, "which is one of the most remarkable science exploits in the world".

"These are the type of things that excite young children and we should be great at as a nation," he told 2GB on Friday.

"Taking off school and protesting? You don't learn anything from that. The best thing you'll learn about going to a protest is how to join the dole queue. Because that's what your future life will look like, up in a line asking for a handout, not actually taking charge for your life and getting a real job."


It's funny how idealogically driven climate science deniers have the temerity to suggest that high school kids are being 'indoctrinated'....with science :roll:
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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

Postby Psyber » Sat Dec 01, 2018 4:38 pm

Today's "science" is often debunked at some future time..
- Flat Earth.
- Sun rotating about Earth
- "Phlogiston" as a factor in combustion.
- People would not be able to breath if cars got too fast.

And more recently...
- 1980s eggs were of the diet because of all the cholesterol they contained - we now know that dietary cholesterol is broken down completely and we make our own and how much is influenced by genetics and endogenous stress hormones.
- We had all our brain cells at 16 - we now know even 80 year olds can grow new brain cells.

Ideology plays a part in what is popularly accepted as correct science at any time.

No, I'm not a "climate change denier" - the changing pattern was obvious in the late 1970s. In fact climate has always changed in cycles, and I agree we are aggravating it now. Canavan's oil and gas based economy has to go but we need renewables backed up by stable baseload sources like safe nuclear power from Thorium to make a significant difference to our CO2 and eliminate the carcinogens released into the air from burning complex fuels. Batteries are not the solution - dead lithium batteries are already piling up to be buried because nobody recycles them as it cost 3x as much to recycle as it does to produce new from raw materials.

Hydrogen extracted from water is the only really clean fuel, as the only by-prioduct it produces is water vapour, but cheap reliable electricity is needed to produce it.
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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

Postby bennymacca » Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:01 pm

Flat earth was 1000 years ago psyber
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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

Postby DOC » Sun Dec 02, 2018 8:13 am

The earth was flat a thousand years ago?
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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

Postby DOC » Sun Dec 02, 2018 8:27 am

@ellinghausen captures Merkel reading up on the new Guy ahead of their meeting

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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

Postby Booney » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:22 am

bennymacca wrote:Flat earth was 1000 years ago psyber


There's still idiots though.
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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

Postby Q. » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:33 am

Psyber wrote:Batteries are not the solution - dead lithium batteries are already piling up to be buried because nobody recycles them as it cost 3x as much to recycle as it does to produce new from raw materials.


Given current renewable penetration (and long term prediction of) there isn't a need for mass storage. Yesterday Australia's main energy grid reached 40% renewables.

I don't think we can even contemplate what battery storage will have evolved to look like in a couple of decades, the technology is now advancing at such a rapid rate. In a couple of years, household solar packages will be a fraction of the cost of what they were five years ago.
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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

Postby Booney » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:35 am

Q. wrote:
Psyber wrote:Batteries are not the solution - dead lithium batteries are already piling up to be buried because nobody recycles them as it cost 3x as much to recycle as it does to produce new from raw materials.


Given current renewable penetration (and long term prediction of) there isn't a need for mass storage. Yesterday Australia's main energy grid reached 40% renewables.

I don't think we can even contemplate what battery storage will have evolved to look like in a couple of decades, the technology is now advancing at such a rapid rate. In a couple of years, household solar packages will be a fraction of the cost of what they were five years ago.


Battery technology usually trails by around 5-8 years, think what your smart phone battery was capable of 5 years ago.
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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

Postby Q. » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:39 am

We digress though. Let's focus on Craig Kelly's outburst and episode 137 of the Unhinging of the Libs.
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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

Postby Booney » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:43 am

If Kelly doesn't get his pre-selection guaranteed and crosses as an independent that's enough to tip the Libs out, isn't it?

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