2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:10 am

RB wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:Tremain would be another Sayers episode IMO.
What's a Sayers episode?

Handy at domestic level, got found out on the international scene.

Mind you, I think Warnie constantly berating him from the commentary box didn't help his cause nor did coming into the side when we were at our lowest point ever.
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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby RB » Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:18 am

I think it's unfair to say that Sayers got found out on the international scene after one match. He took 2-146, and bowled reasonably tightly despite what the commentators would have you believe. Compare those match figures to Hazelwood's 0-127.

I think if Sayers is fit and in form he could be dangerous in England.
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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:43 am

RB wrote:I think it's unfair to say that Sayers got found out on the international scene after one match. He took 2-146, and bowled reasonably tightly despite what the commentators would have you believe. Compare those match figures to Hazelwood's 0-127.

I think if Sayers is fit and in form he could be dangerous in England.


Me too, we will never know as he will never wear a baggy green again.

He would've been ideal for the GABBA pink ball test, probably could've booked himself a trip to England on the back of it, played in a tour match or two over there and then become a regular in the team.

Right place at the right time.
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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby Zorro » Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:44 am

Warnie should consider himself lucky the same assumptions weren't made about him after one test (and figures of 1/150).
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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:51 am

Zorro wrote:Warnie should consider himself lucky the same assumptions weren't made about him after one test (and figures of 1/150).

Excellent point.
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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby Booney » Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:03 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
DOC wrote:Thats like saying Laubaschagne will keep Smith out. You don't want it to happen but I think it will.

Most of the Australian cricket supporters want Smith back in, probably only a third want Warner back in but most would rather be successful without him.


Agreed.

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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby The Dark Knight » Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:15 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
Armchair expert wrote:pocovski
Siddle
Renshaw. Not in the team


Burns
Harris
Labaschagne
Kwajaja
Head
Patterson
Paine
Cummins
Starc
Lyon
Richardson


Unfortunately I can't really knock the line up, it's a bit of horses for courses but no one is bashing down the door, mainly because there has been no door due to BBL.

When you look at averages, Shaun Marsh @ 88 has to be included but we all know what's happened there, Pucovski @ 104, but that was aided by an innings of 243.
Burns @ 47 without scoring a century shows consistency and is an obvious choice for the Gabba with the pink ball, I really think he's going to take this opportunity by the throat here as will Labaschagne (who I don't really rate).

Of the other batsmen in the top 10 shield runs for the season averaging over 40 we have Wade, Cooper, Larkin, D.Hughes & Lehmann, Hughes is the only one I'd consider.

The bowling is about right, Boland should've come into consideration before Siddle but I can understand why they chose Pete, if Starc or Cummins broke down our attack would be too green, Tremain would be another Sayers episode IMO.

All in all, looking at our list, we are a long way off the pack now and 4th or 5th is about right, I'd hate to play the KIwi's right now.

I'm happy with the 11, in the middle order I'd go Khawaja, Patterson, Head then Labuschagne at 6.

Whether Chris Tremain would be another 'Sayers episode' or not, he must be pretty frustrated not being retained in the squad at least for this series. Has done the work in shield cricket that makes him deserving of a spot in front of Richardson IMO. Not having any shield cricket until March doesn't help him though. Peter Siddle is now in front of him too.

I like the look of Richardson (and so do they obviously wanting to fast track him) and we'll see what happens with him this match obviously but for guys like Tremain and Matthew Wade, in the batting department the messages from Langer and the selectors of making runs and taking wickets at shield level to have the best chance of being selected is infact a complete lie. I'm no Matthew Wade fan but he has the runs on the board this season to at least be considered by the selectors.

Maybe if these two played for WA it would be a different story.
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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby The Bedge » Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:19 am

The Dark Knight wrote:Whether Chris Tremain would be another 'Sayers episode' or not, he must be pretty frustrated not being retained in the squad at least for this series. Has done the work in shield cricket that makes him deserving of a spot in front of Richardson IMO. Not having any shield cricket until March doesn't help him though. Peter Siddle is now in front of him too.

Richardson & Siddle beneficiaries of a weakened BBL competition - perform in the T20 and catapult up the pecking order.

Richardson i think might be alright, so not too fussed, but still it's obvious he's been picking on his short game form (ODI and BBL).
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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby David Brent » Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:23 am

RB wrote:I think it's unfair to say that Sayers got found out on the international scene after one match. He took 2-146, and bowled reasonably tightly despite what the commentators would have you believe. Compare those match figures to Hazelwood's 0-127.

I think if Sayers is fit and in form he could be dangerous in England.


One of Sayers or Worrell need to be in the Ashes aquad next year as a point of difference for our attack. I'd lean towards Franky at this stage.
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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby northerner » Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:43 am

The most inexperienced and vulnerable Top Six I have ever seen in 45 years of watching Aussies playing Test cricket.
But I think it is the best we can put on the Park with what we have atm. Renshaw has missed big opportunities to make a statement and Will P will get his chances. I am not a huge Wade fan; although he is a pugnacious fighter, I don't see him as Test batsman.

You can see why the selectors gave S. Marsh so many chances. Without him there is only Khawaja with any experience to talk of.

Burns and Labuschagne are the ones that will be under most scrutiny, although Harris, Uzzie and Head need to start capitalizing on their regular starts.
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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby DOC » Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:04 pm

I think this top six (first test v England 1979) were worse. When people say we are at our worst, our teams during WSC are often overlooked. Tried hard but outclased.

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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:26 pm

DOC wrote:I think this top six (first test v England 1979) were worse. When people say we are at our worst, our teams during WSC are often overlooked. Tried hard but outclased.

GM Wood
GJ Cosier
PM Toohey
GN Yallop (c)
KJ Hughes
TJ Laughlin

Didn't we unearth Border and Rodney Hogg that series?
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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby Q. » Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:36 pm

Head to ton up in the first innings
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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:58 pm

Q. wrote:Head to ton up in the first innings

He's paying 6's to top score for Australia in the first dig.
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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:59 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
Q. wrote:Head to ton up in the first innings

He's paying 6's to top score for Australia in the first dig.

Cummins to take 3+ wickets and Head to score 50+ is paying $7.50.
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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby Armchair expert » Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:01 pm

Sri Lanka batting first after winning the toss
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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby The Bedge » Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:05 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:Cummins to take 3+ wickets and Head to score 50+ is paying $7.50.

Good value.
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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby The Dark Knight » Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:29 pm

Armchair expert wrote:Sri Lanka batting first after winning the toss
Hopefully Starc can get the radar right straight away in this series and start well this afternoon.
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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:39 pm

The Bedge wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:Cummins to take 3+ wickets and Head to score 50+ is paying $7.50.

Good value.

I'm on it.
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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby locky801 » Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:53 pm

Richardson looking the goods early :D
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