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Re: wubsy's Sydney Ducks thread!

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu Apr 11, 2019 3:35 pm

woodublieve12 wrote:
He's actually pretty funny.

He's about as funny as a fart in an elevator.
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Re: wubsy's Sydney Ducks thread!

Postby woodublieve12 » Thu Apr 11, 2019 3:36 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:
He's actually pretty funny.

He's about as funny as a fart in an elevator.


well it's all a matter of opinion... And farts can be funny sometimes
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Re: wubsy's Sydney Ducks thread!

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu Apr 11, 2019 3:37 pm

woodublieve12 wrote:https://www.sydneyswans.com.au/news/2019-04-11/bolton-lauds-longmire-on-cusp-of-200th?fbclid=IwAR1GLSBTqPF0gjxaCwEKxn9rueCIRlnYOylsbXcpjG4GCTegUUEMyaGCUvY

Can you chuck it in the Round 4 thread aswell for those that may miss it in here?
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Re: wubsy's Sydney Ducks thread!

Postby woodublieve12 » Thu Apr 11, 2019 3:39 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:https://www.sydneyswans.com.au/news/2019-04-11/bolton-lauds-longmire-on-cusp-of-200th?fbclid=IwAR1GLSBTqPF0gjxaCwEKxn9rueCIRlnYOylsbXcpjG4GCTegUUEMyaGCUvY

Can you chuck it in the Round 4 thread aswell for those that may miss it in here?


the people in that group don't deserve it.
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Re: wubsy's Sydney Ducks thread!

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu Apr 11, 2019 3:41 pm

woodublieve12 wrote:the people in that group don't deserve it.

Yeah, you're right, they're good people.
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Re: wubsy's Sydney Ducks thread!

Postby Booney » Thu Apr 11, 2019 3:44 pm

He's probably on $700k plus per year, he should be working hard.

Actually, come to think of it, how does he get by on $700k a year living in Sydney? No wonder he's a miserable prick.
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Re: wubsy's Sydney Ducks thread!

Postby woodublieve12 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:41 am

How Buddy trade ban is still hurting Swans

Mind the gap.

It’s the saying you hear when you step off the tube in London, but for Sydney Swans fans it’s the missing link in the chain threatening their aspirations for another premiership.

As the Swans walk out onto Marvel Stadium this afternoon fighting for their 2019 survival against Carlton, they’re battling to overcome not just a regulation form slump, but arguably, the brutal lasting effects of the infamous Lance Franklin trade ban.


Lance Franklin has been brilliant for Sydney, but it’s come at a cost.

The Swans roster for this year features 30 players under the age of 24, a stunning lack of experience which accounts for a whopping 70 per cent of their entire list.

Of the handful of more seasoned professionals in their squad, several are now on the wrong side of 30 and beyond their prime years.

Spread out across the field, there are no more than two Swans aged 24 and above covering any one positional area – meaning the kids are everywhere you look.

As far as gaps go, it’s not quite the Sydney Heads, but the lack of middle-aged generals (players between 24-30) is wide enough to be sounding alarm bells for the Swans’ hope of keeping their extraordinary record of finals consistency alive.

When the Swans pulled off the coup of the century in poaching Franklin out of the grasps of the GWS Giants, the AFL reacted angrily and slapped Sydney with a two-year trade ban.

The decision was labelled a “disgrace” by Swans Chairman Andrew Pridham, but perhaps it’s only now four years on that the full effect of having their entire roster management production line extraordinarily shut down is being realised.

In the opening two rounds, the Western Bulldogs and Adelaide have exposed both Sydney’s lack of experience in some areas, and their slowness in others.

Former Collingwood Premiership great, respected Melbourne media pundit and now The Daily Telegraph columnist Mick McGuane says what happened to the Swans was unjust, and that the dearth of players aged 24 to 30 would be having a serious impact.

“If you are looking for a players’ peak at AFL level for sustained excellence, your years are probably between 22 and 28. That’s the embodiment of a successful list,” says McGuane.

“You’re at your healthiest, your strongest, your fittest and you’ve started to get 80-100 games under your belt.

“It’s no coincidence that when the Swans were up and going it was the prime for guys like Josh Kennedy and Kieran Jack, Dan Hannebery and Tom Mitchell when he was there. Buddy was in his prime when he arrived, Ted Richards was playing when he was in Sydney at that age.

“I didn’t like (the ban at the time). I thought it smacked of inequality within a competition that is trying to even up the competition. I’m all about fair play and I didn’t think there was anything untoward that Sydney Swans were doing to penalise them to that extent.”


Josh Kennedy has been one of the best Swans of the past decade.

The Swans previously had benefited greatly from players like Josh Kennedy, Ben McGlynn, Ted Richards, Craig Bolton, Barry Hall and Shane Mumford who had cut their teeth at other clubs and then come to Sydney looking for a fresh opportunity.T

But since the trade ban, Sydney have had to virtually start from scratch with all their players and try to manufacture AFL experience on the run.

AFL chief executive Gillon McLachalan told The Daily Telegraph in an interview last month that he had no regrets about punishing Sydney so harshly.

“I think it was a decision taken at the time. It’s a long time ago. The reasons were clear because it involved COLA (cost of living allowance) and the way that was executed,” said McLachlan.

“I just think that it was a decision for a specific reasons and it was a long time ago.”

West Coast and Fremantle’s trading tactic is to target West Australians. Several Melbourne clubs have also preyed on the go-home factor.

Sydney and GWS don’t have that luxury – with Giant Phil Davis (born in Canberra, but really raised in South Australia) the only NSW/ACT player who has been traded back home.
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Re: wubsy's Sydney Ducks thread!

Postby Booney » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:23 am

The AFL acknowledged COLA gave Sydney an unfair advantage and decided to fix the imbalance.
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Re: wubsy's Sydney Ducks thread!

Postby woodublieve12 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:36 am

Booney wrote:The AFL acknowledged COLA gave Sydney an unfair advantage and decided to fix the imbalance.

by punishing us from a rule they brought in????
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Re: wubsy's Sydney Ducks thread!

Postby Jim05 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:57 am

Still hold the record for the biggest salary cap breach in the history of the game.
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Re: wubsy's Sydney Ducks thread!

Postby woodublieve12 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:58 am

Jim05 wrote:Still hold the record for the biggest salary cap breach in the history of the game.


we never breached anything
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Re: wubsy's Sydney Ducks thread!

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:58 am

woodublieve12 wrote:
Booney wrote:The AFL acknowledged COLA gave Sydney an unfair advantage and decided to fix the imbalance.

by punishing us from a rule they brought in????

Didn't he backflip at the 11th hour on a deal that was going to see him land at one of the "expansion clubs" for the betterment of the competition?
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Re: wubsy's Sydney Ducks thread!

Postby mots02 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:05 am

woodublieve12 wrote:
Booney wrote:The AFL acknowledged COLA gave Sydney an unfair advantage and decided to fix the imbalance.

by punishing us from a rule they brought in????


Rules get modified or rescinded all the time, just be happy that you had an unfair advantage for as long as you did.
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Re: wubsy's Sydney Ducks thread!

Postby woodublieve12 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:28 am

mots02 wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:
Booney wrote:The AFL acknowledged COLA gave Sydney an unfair advantage and decided to fix the imbalance.

by punishing us from a rule they brought in????


Rules get modified or rescinded all the time, just be happy that you had an unfair advantage for as long as you did.


rules do, but should someone or an organisation be punished for those changes? Zero issue with COLA going, we recruited 2 massive names because of it... That's it!!! We also recruited ALOT of B+ players who turned out very good for us! But we never broke any laws. COLA helped but to say it is the only reason we were successful is idiotic.

SA, VIC, and WA clubs already have an advantage over the eastern clubs, as it's easier to retain players. See what happened to Brisbane after COLA was gone. People bitch about the Academies, but they are fundamental to football succeeding in those areas. Every club has one, but we use it better then them...

People bitch about us getting Buddy, but Richmond can resign dusty and sign Lynch on massive contracts (more then buddy) and not a word said... Everything we did was within the rules the AFL set, and imposed on us.
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Re: wubsy's Sydney Ducks thread!

Postby Jim05 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:31 am

woodublieve12 wrote:
Jim05 wrote:Still hold the record for the biggest salary cap breach in the history of the game.


we never breached anything

Short memory. $1.25m over the salary cap in 1987 for Greg Williams when the cap was just on $1m. Then 3 years later Williams suspended for 6 games after the Swans paid him $400k outside the cap again
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Re: wubsy's Sydney Ducks thread!

Postby woodublieve12 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:40 am

Jim05 wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:
Jim05 wrote:Still hold the record for the biggest salary cap breach in the history of the game.


we never breached anything

Short memory. $1.25m over the salary cap in 1987 for Greg Williams when the cap was just on $1m. Then 3 years later Williams suspended for 6 games after the Swans paid him $400k outside the cap again


considering I was 5 when that went down I do apologise for missing that one
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Re: wubsy's Sydney Ducks thread!

Postby Corona Man » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:45 am

woodublieve12 wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:
Jim05 wrote:Still hold the record for the biggest salary cap breach in the history of the game.


we never breached anything

Short memory. $1.25m over the salary cap in 1987 for Greg Williams when the cap was just on $1m. Then 3 years later Williams suspended for 6 games after the Swans paid him $400k outside the cap again


considering I was 5 when that went down I do apologise for missing that one

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Re: wubsy's Sydney Ducks thread!

Postby Spargo » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:50 am

woodublieve12 wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:
Jim05 wrote:Still hold the record for the biggest salary cap breach in the history of the game.


we never breached anything

Short memory. $1.25m over the salary cap in 1987 for Greg Williams when the cap was just on $1m. Then 3 years later Williams suspended for 6 games after the Swans paid him $400k outside the cap again


considering I was 5 when that went down I do apologise for missing that one


That makes you born in 1982, yeah? The same year South Melbourne became Sydney.
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Re: wubsy's Sydney Ducks thread!

Postby mots02 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:05 am

woodublieve12 wrote:
mots02 wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:
Booney wrote:The AFL acknowledged COLA gave Sydney an unfair advantage and decided to fix the imbalance.

by punishing us from a rule they brought in????


Rules get modified or rescinded all the time, just be happy that you had an unfair advantage for as long as you did.


rules do, but should someone or an organisation be punished for those changes? Zero issue with COLA going, we recruited 2 massive names because of it... That's it!!! We also recruited ALOT of B+ players who turned out very good for us! But we never broke any laws. COLA helped but to say it is the only reason we were successful is idiotic.

SA, VIC, and WA clubs already have an advantage over the eastern clubs, as it's easier to retain players. See what happened to Brisbane after COLA was gone. People bitch about the Academies, but they are fundamental to football succeeding in those areas. Every club has one, but we use it better then them...

People bitch about us getting Buddy, but Richmond can resign dusty and sign Lynch on massive contracts (more then buddy) and not a word said... Everything we did was within the rules the AFL set, and imposed on us.


True... but.... some might say you took the p155 out of the rule by signing Buddy to such a big and long contract.

Maybe that is in part why you no longer have it.
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Re: wubsy's Sydney Ducks thread!

Postby Booney » Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:13 am

woodublieve12 wrote:
mots02 wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:
Booney wrote:The AFL acknowledged COLA gave Sydney an unfair advantage and decided to fix the imbalance.

by punishing us from a rule they brought in????


Rules get modified or rescinded all the time, just be happy that you had an unfair advantage for as long as you did.


rules do, but should someone or an organisation be punished for those changes? Zero issue with COLA going, we recruited 2 massive names because of it... That's it!!! We also recruited ALOT of B+ players who turned out very good for us! But we never broke any laws. COLA helped but to say it is the only reason we were successful is idiotic.

SA, VIC, and WA clubs already have an advantage over the eastern clubs, as it's easier to retain players. See what happened to Brisbane after COLA was gone. People bitch about the Academies, but they are fundamental to football succeeding in those areas. Every club has one, but we use it better then them...

People bitch about us getting Buddy, but Richmond can resign dusty and sign Lynch on massive contracts (more then buddy) and not a word said... Everything we did was within the rules the AFL set, and imposed on us.


LOL, go to West Lakes and talk about player retention. :lol:
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