AFL 2019 season

[woodublieve12]

Great idea...



A radical 24-page proposal to “reclaim the history’’ of the AFL is being presented to club presidents today and looks set to be accepted by the AFL Commission.

The landmark proposal calls for premierships won between 1870 and 1896 to be officially recognised and player records during the “foundation years’’ to be included in the official history of the game.

Since 1897, Essendon and Carlton have won the most VFL/AFL premierships with 16 and Collingwood is second with 15.

Including the foundation premierships, from 1870, would alter the flags leaderboard, putting Carlton on top with 22, followed by Essendon on 20, Geelong 16, Collingwood 16 and Melbourne 15.

The number of South Melbourne/Sydney premierships would double to 10.

The proposal, which has been obtained by the Herald Sun, is the brainchild of former commissioner and current Geelong president Colin Carter.

“I look at the history of football and it offends me because it’s wrong,’’ Carter said.

“I also find it an extraordinary story. It wasn’t as if our competition limped out of an era which doesn’t really matter.’’

The VFL formed in 1897 after splitting from the VFA — the relationship between the two groups was reported to be toxic — and the VFL’s founding fathers eventually expunged records of the VFA era in about 1920.

“Our competition today stands on foundations created by our founders in those forgotten years,’’ Carter said.

“Ignoring the years of our VFA history is grossly unfair to the players and administrators of that time. It’s time to give them justice.’’

“We’re not the revisionist, the revisionists are the people in the 1920s.’’

Under the proposal, Australian rules would be identified as three distinct eras — the Foundation Era (1858-1896), the VFL Era (1897-1986) and The National Competition (from 1987).

It would recognise the competition began in 1870, which would mean next year (2020) would be its 150th anniversary of the oldest football competition in the world.

It is understood Commission chairman Richard Goyder, several other commissioners and chief executive Gillon McLachlan believe the proposal has merit.

The Commission invited Carter to present to his fellow presidents.

Former AFL CEOs Ross Oakley, Wayne Jackson and Mike Fitzpatrick, and AFL greats Kevin Sheedy and David Parkin, reviewed and support the draft proposal.

- Mark Robinson, Herald Sun

[beef]

Here come all the port supporters wanting their 30 odd premierships.

[Booney]

Football followers are willing to acknowledge the VFL became the AFL and as such VFL/AFL premierships should be included in the one tally.

However, if VFA premierships to South Melbourne are going to be claimed by the Sydney Swans then there would be reason to state the SANFL premierships won by Port Adelaide should be included in the tally also.

If we're going back to 1870 and looking at all competitions clubs has played in then let's open it up for all.

[Booney]

Here come all the port supporters wanting their 30 odd premierships.

Are you ok with the Sydney Swans claiming South Melbourne premierships as their own?

[woodublieve12]

port joined the vfl/afl, they won theirs in a totally different comp

[Booney]

port joined the vfl/afl, they won theirs in a totally different comp

Agreed, I'm happy for VFL/AFL to be one tally but the VFA didn't become the VFL ( in turn the AFL ) though.

[beef]

Here come all the port supporters wanting their 30 odd premierships.

Are you ok with the Sydney Swans claiming South Melbourne premierships as their own?

Not really but happy with Carlton to add 6. Will be another 100 years before we add another 1 the way we're travelling. Didn't say i agreed i just knew the Port supporters would say something. Probably Freo as well if they have any on here.

[Bum Crack]

Football followers are willing to acknowledge the VFL became the AFL and as such VFL/AFL premierships should be included in the one tally.

However, if VFA premierships to South Melbourne are going to be claimed by the Sydney Swans then there would be reason to state the SANFL premierships won by Port Adelaide should be included in the tally also.

If we're going back to 1870 and looking at all competitions clubs has played in then let's open it up for all.

LOL

[Booney]

Football followers are willing to acknowledge the VFL became the AFL and as such VFL/AFL premierships should be included in the one tally.

However, if VFA premierships to South Melbourne are going to be claimed by the Sydney Swans then there would be reason to state the SANFL premierships won by Port Adelaide should be included in the tally also.

If we're going back to 1870 and looking at all competitions clubs has played in then let's open it up for all.

LOL

**** your lol.

[Bum Crack]

Football followers are willing to acknowledge the VFL became the AFL and as such VFL/AFL premierships should be included in the one tally.

However, if VFA premierships to South Melbourne are going to be claimed by the Sydney Swans then there would be reason to state the SANFL premierships won by Port Adelaide should be included in the tally also.

If we're going back to 1870 and looking at all competitions clubs has played in then let's open it up for all.

LOL

**** your lol.

LOL

[Lightning McQueen]

Here come all the port supporters wanting their 30 odd premierships.

Are you ok with the Sydney Swans claiming South Melbourne premierships as their own?

Not really but happy with Carlton to add 6. Will be another 100 years before we add another 1 the way we're travelling. Didn't say i agreed i just knew the Port supporters would say something. Probably Freo as well if they have any on here.

Fremantle hadn't been a club since 1899, but heck, they had a fair run in a short time.

[Lightning McQueen]

I know it's ages away but Hawthorn are paying $2 against the Bombers Friday week, Essendon $1.80.

Hawks 1-39 ($2.60)

[woodublieve12]

Football followers are willing to acknowledge the VFL became the AFL and as such VFL/AFL premierships should be included in the one tally.

However, if VFA premierships to South Melbourne are going to be claimed by the Sydney Swans then there would be reason to state the SANFL premierships won by Port Adelaide should be included in the tally also.

If we're going back to 1870 and looking at all competitions clubs has played in then let's open it up for all.

LOL

LOL

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Football followers are willing to acknowledge the VFL became the AFL and as such VFL/AFL premierships should be included in the one tally.

However, if VFA premierships to South Melbourne are going to be claimed by the Sydney Swans then there would be reason to state the SANFL premierships won by Port Adelaide should be included in the tally also.

If we're going back to 1870 and looking at all competitions clubs has played in then let's open it up for all.

LOL

LOL

LOL

[Lightning McQueen]

LOL

Bwahahaha

[amber_fluid]

LOL

Bwahahaha

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[woodublieve12]

Here come all the port supporters wanting their 30 odd premierships.

Are you ok with the Sydney Swans claiming South Melbourne premierships as their own?

Surely you are trolling to continue down this path????

[Spargo]

I know it's ages away but Hawthorn are paying $2 against the Bombers Friday week, Essendon $1.80.

Hawks 1-39 ($2.60)

Random post of the day...

[Lightning McQueen]

I know it's ages away but Hawthorn are paying $2 against the Bombers Friday week, Essendon $1.80.

Hawks 1-39 ($2.60)

Random post of the day...

I should've said "while we're on the subject".

[Wedgie]

Simon Black not inducted into the AFL Hall of Fame as he's currently a contestant in Australian Survivor, will be inducted next year instead.