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Re: Carlton

Postby beef » Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:54 am

So who will actually coach Carlton next year
Adel - Pyke (no thanks)
Bris - Fagan (no chance)
Carl - Teague (wins 5 or 6 on way home he'll probably get it)
Coll - Buckley (no chance)
Ess - Worsfold (no thanks)
Fre - Lyon (think we will make him a good offer - not a bad option i think)
Gee - Scott (no chance)
GWS - Cameron (no chance, maybe SOS will recruit their NEAFL coach)
GC - Dew (would be good but no chance)
Haw - Clarkson (perfect but no chance)
Mel - Goodwin (no chance and no thanks)
NM - Shaw (very unlikely)
Port - Hinkley (think he's gettable but don't want him)
Rich - Hardwick (no chance)
StK - Richardson (no thanks)
Syd - Longmire (no chance - if leaves will go to NM)
WB - Beveridge (think he stays at Bulldogs)
WCE - Simpson (no chance)

Other Options
Mitchell
Caracella
Camporeale
Voss
B Scott
Roos
David Noble is also a possibility
Ratten


Think we will throw big money at Roos (with maybe Mitchell as next coach like did with Goodwin/Longmire) and Ross Lyon but end up with Brad Scott
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Re: Carlton

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:59 am

beef wrote:So who will actually coach Carlton next year



Think we will throw big money at Roos (with maybe Mitchell as next coach like did with Goodwin/Longmire) and Ross Lyon but end up with Brad Scott


Sounds good in theory but I don't think Roos would have his heart fully in it, I'm not sold the Melbourne experiment was a successful one.
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Re: Carlton

Postby MW » Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:15 am

Roos already said he's not interested
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Re: Carlton

Postby amber_fluid » Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:17 am

MW wrote:Roos already said he's not interested


That’s just to get Carlton to up their price.
I hope we don’t go after him though.

He’s had his time.
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Re: Carlton

Postby amber_fluid » Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:19 am

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That;s Cameron Ling top right with the straw boater hat.


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Lingy looks more like the dude in the middle with the red hat on these days.
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Re: Carlton

Postby JK » Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:19 am

I know it’s unlikely, and there’s a gulf of difference between AFL and SANFL, but Norwood we’re in almost the same position Carlton now is when Bassett took us over. Could do worse imho.

I don’t know how wealthy Carlton are these days, but they’d be mad (if affordable) not to throw a huge offer in front of Clarkson and at least find out.
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Re: Carlton

Postby Brodlach » Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:21 am

JK wrote:I know it’s unlikely, and there’s a gulf of difference between AFL and SANFL, but Norwood we’re in almost the same position Carlton now is when Bassett took us over. Could do worse imho.

I don’t know how wealthy Carlton are these days, but they’d be mad (if affordable) not to throw a huge offer in front of Clarkson and at least find out.


Talk yesterday about a group called “The Carltonians” that are willing to contribute a ver large sum of money to help the club
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Re: Carlton

Postby mots02 » Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:28 am

Brodlach wrote:
JK wrote:I know it’s unlikely, and there’s a gulf of difference between AFL and SANFL, but Norwood we’re in almost the same position Carlton now is when Bassett took us over. Could do worse imho.

I don’t know how wealthy Carlton are these days, but they’d be mad (if affordable) not to throw a huge offer in front of Clarkson and at least find out.


Talk yesterday about a group called “The Carltonians” that are willing to contribute a ver large sum of money to help the club


Good to see the blues have moved on from the 70's, 80's and 90's when they just threw cash at stuff to solve problems!

Listening to SEN last week there were numerous callers from Melb calling for the brown paper bags to come out again and for the salary cap to be abolished!
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Re: Carlton

Postby reppoh_eht » Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:48 am

Brodlach wrote:
JK wrote:I know it’s unlikely, and there’s a gulf of difference between AFL and SANFL, but Norwood we’re in almost the same position Carlton now is when Bassett took us over. Could do worse imho.

I don’t know how wealthy Carlton are these days, but they’d be mad (if affordable) not to throw a huge offer in front of Clarkson and at least find out.


Talk yesterday about a group called “The Carltonians” that are willing to contribute a ver large sum of money to help the club


That might help them get the cash to afford a Clarkson or similar but it is still included in the soft cap. Spend big on a head coach means less money to spend on good development coaches etc. Carlton need all the help they can get in this area at the moment.

Also those mentioning that if Teague wins a few games he will get the gig... When was the last time an interim coach got the full time gig? They are clearly part of the problem as well. Might be slightly different with the Shaw/Scott scenario but in this instance Teague can't be looked at too favourably.
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Re: Carlton

Postby Brodlach » Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:54 am

They might buy him a McDonalds franchise
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Re: Carlton

Postby Corona Man » Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:58 am

mots02 wrote:
Brodlach wrote:
JK wrote:I know it’s unlikely, and there’s a gulf of difference between AFL and SANFL, but Norwood we’re in almost the same position Carlton now is when Bassett took us over. Could do worse imho.

I don’t know how wealthy Carlton are these days, but they’d be mad (if affordable) not to throw a huge offer in front of Clarkson and at least find out.


Talk yesterday about a group called “The Carltonians” that are willing to contribute a ver large sum of money to help the club


Good to see the blues have moved on from the 70's, 80's and 90's when they just threw cash at stuff to solve problems!

Listening to SEN last week there were numerous callers from Melb calling for the brown paper bags to come out again and for the salary cap to be abolished!

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Re: Carlton

Postby amber_fluid » Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:07 am

mots02 wrote:
Brodlach wrote:
JK wrote:I know it’s unlikely, and there’s a gulf of difference between AFL and SANFL, but Norwood we’re in almost the same position Carlton now is when Bassett took us over. Could do worse imho.

I don’t know how wealthy Carlton are these days, but they’d be mad (if affordable) not to throw a huge offer in front of Clarkson and at least find out.


Talk yesterday about a group called “The Carltonians” that are willing to contribute a ver large sum of money to help the club


Good to see the blues have moved on from the 70's, 80's and 90's when they just threw cash at stuff to solve problems!

Listening to SEN last week there were numerous callers from Melb calling for the brown paper bags to come out again and for the salary cap to be abolished!


Don’t be fooled mate, money still talks.
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Re: Carlton

Postby Armchair expert » Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:11 am

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Re: Carlton

Postby valleys07 » Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:26 pm

reppoh_eht wrote:
Brodlach wrote:
JK wrote:I know it’s unlikely, and there’s a gulf of difference between AFL and SANFL, but Norwood we’re in almost the same position Carlton now is when Bassett took us over. Could do worse imho.

I don’t know how wealthy Carlton are these days, but they’d be mad (if affordable) not to throw a huge offer in front of Clarkson and at least find out.


Talk yesterday about a group called “The Carltonians” that are willing to contribute a ver large sum of money to help the club


That might help them get the cash to afford a Clarkson or similar but it is still included in the soft cap. Spend big on a head coach means less money to spend on good development coaches etc. Carlton need all the help they can get in this area at the moment.

Also those mentioning that if Teague wins a few games he will get the gig... When was the last time an interim coach got the full time gig? They are clearly part of the problem as well. Might be slightly different with the Shaw/Scott scenario but in this instance Teague can't be looked at too favourably.


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Re: Carlton

Postby gadj1976 » Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:36 pm

beef wrote:Carl - Teague (wins 5 or 6 on way home he'll probably get it)


Do you really think this is possible?
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Re: Carlton

Postby gadj1976 » Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:44 pm

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gadj1976 wrote:8 coaches in 19 years
3 sackings in 7 years (1 by Kernahan (Ratten), 2 by Lagoudice (Malthouse and Bolton))

So what do we do now? I hear people say we have a sh1t list or a great list that any coach would want. Discussions with moving on SOS are just ridiculous.

Given we need an experienced coach but any coach that comes in will have pick 12ish to start with.

I think Lagoudice needs to go now. It really pisses me off that we get half way through a plan and become impatient and then in one day, 5 years of planning gets turned on their heads.

Bolts, what a great bloke. I saw the presser. At the end, when he got up to leave he said "thanks Prez". What a legend. All the best to him, hopefully he gets an assistant role at a decent club.


Hang on, LaGiudice said they're sticking to the path they've gone down in yesterday's presser ( not that they have any choice to be honest ) but it's not with Bolton.

Don't expect things to get better any time soon.

Who Carlton has brought in :


The kids we've brought in are fine. And I have no problem with bringing in other teams players if they were 'low' picks or trades where 1 player was traded for 3. As I've stated before, we had zero depth at the time. To get depth we needed to bring in groups of players. Remembering we 'delisted' Garlett. We lost through FA Waite (and got zero return - and I mean zero!) The AFL determined his age and the contract he was going to be on at North wasn't worthy of any return. We delisted Robinson. We pretty much swapped Thomas for Betts and so it goes on.....

Going back to the plan..... I've heard that before from the board. This was 'be patient, we need time' plan. Well obviously the board ran out of patience, so now we're looking for immediate improvement/success. What does that mean for the list under the new coach - who will no doubt bring in his own assistants? I really don't know where to from here with this board. If they are looking at a Hinkley, Lyon etc, why the hell would they leave their existing gigs, given the board have jettisoned three coaches out in 7 years and effectively ended three coaches careers in the process?
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Re: Carlton

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:47 pm

gadj1976 wrote:
beef wrote:Carl - Teague (wins 5 or 6 on way home he'll probably get it)


Do you really think this is possible?

Brisbane, Dogs, Suns, Demons, Cows and Saints all at home still to play, Sydney away.

Highly unlikely but could snag a few.
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Re: Carlton

Postby nuggety goodness » Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:56 pm

gadj1976 wrote:
beef wrote:Carl - Teague (wins 5 or 6 on way home he'll probably get it)


Do you really think this is possible?


12- Brisbane (Gabba) - 40/60
13 - Dogs (Marvel)- 50/50
14 - Bye (at least you won't lose that week)
15 - Freo (Optus) - 20/80
16 - Melbourne (MCG) - 60/40
17 - Sydney (SCG) - 40/60
18 - Gold Coast (Marvel) - 60/40
19 - Adelaide (MCG) - 30/70
20 - West Coast (Marvel) - 20/80
21 - Richmond (MCG) - 40/60
22 - St Kilda (MCG) - 60/40
23 - Geelong (GHMLBGT+) - 10/90

Should win at least 2, could win up to 5...

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Re: Carlton

Postby Spargo » Wed Jun 05, 2019 2:06 pm

Extremely generous with the Brisbane & Richmond games.
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Re: Carlton

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Jun 05, 2019 2:13 pm

Spargo wrote:Extremely generous with the Brisbane & Richmond games.

and Melbourne if he has Carlton as the 60.
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