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Re: ODI World Cup 2019

Postby The Bedge » Tue Jun 11, 2019 12:30 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:That would leave:
Warner
Finch
S.Marsh
Smith
Khawaja
Maxwell (off)
Carey (WK)
Cummins (pace)
Starc (pace)
Lyon (off)
Behrendorf (pace).

Not sure about the balance of this side, think need a 4th seamer - one of the "all rounders" has to stay, and Khawaja at 5 I dont think would work.
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Re: ODI World Cup 2019

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:02 pm

The Bedge wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:That would leave:
Warner
Finch
S.Marsh
Smith
Khawaja
Maxwell (off)
Carey (WK)
Cummins (pace)
Starc (pace)
Lyon (off)
Behrendorf (pace).

Not sure about the balance of this side, think need a 4th seamer - one of the "all rounders" has to stay, and Khawaja at 5 I dont think would work.


Which one?
NCN 2/169 (28) (1/133(20) excluding the Afghani game)
Stoinis 4/117 (18) (2/80(11) excluding the Afghani game)

Both leaking more runs than a home brand nappy.
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Re: ODI World Cup 2019

Postby The Bedge » Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:15 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:Which one?
NCN 2/169 (28) (1/133(20) excluding the Afghani game)
Stoinis 4/117 (18) (2/80(11) excluding the Afghani game)

Both leaking more runs than a home brand nappy.

Despite the figures, think NCN is a better bowler than Stoinis.. i'd lean towards him, and bowl only the 4 or 5 overs.

1. Warner
2. Finch
3. Khawaja (or S. Marsh)
4. Smith
5. Maxwell
6. Carey
7. NCN
8. Cummins
9. Starc
10. Behrendorff
11. Lyon

Gives you 40 overs with Starc, Cummins, Behrendorrd and Lyon, and only need to find 10 overs between Maxwell and NCN.

Sadly though, batting looks a bit thin above i think.
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Re: ODI World Cup 2019

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:48 pm

The Bedge wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:Which one?
NCN 2/169 (28) (1/133(20) excluding the Afghani game)
Stoinis 4/117 (18) (2/80(11) excluding the Afghani game)

Both leaking more runs than a home brand nappy.

Despite the figures, think NCN is a better bowler than Stoinis.. i'd lean towards him, and bowl only the 4 or 5 overs.

1. Warner
2. Finch
3. Khawaja (or S. Marsh)
4. Smith
5. Maxwell
6. Carey
7. NCN
8. Cummins
9. Starc
10. Behrendorff
11. Lyon

Gives you 40 overs with Starc, Cummins, Behrendorrd and Lyon, and only need to find 10 overs between Maxwell and NCN.

Sadly though, batting looks a bit thin above i think.

It's just as sad seeing Carey at 7 and being cut off at the knees when he was going as well as he was the other night.

I don't think you're wrong, I don't think either one of us are right either, I thought the selectors got it wrong with their squad, it is still very winnable for us though, tests are won by teams, ODI's are won by individual performances and we have many match-winners.
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Re: ODI World Cup 2019

Postby DOC » Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:52 pm

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DOC wrote:Warners 50 his slowest ever. Just what you want chasing 353

How often has that happened? us losing because Warner batted too slow.

Usually 84 balls would yield him around 90 runs, there would've been the difference.

I watched the innings spasmodically, was he out of sorts or was the bowling that good?



Bowling was good. He faced mostly pace.

He was continually cramped for room (was batting well out of his crease) so their strategy to him was just short of good length and at him/stumps. He did not turn the strike over anywhere near enough. They were more than happy for him to keep defending rather than attacking. I guess their plan was the more balls he uses not scoring is the more attacking others will have to be.

On another day, he goes run a ball and we win. That said, he played on in the second over and the bails were not dislodged.
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Re: ODI World Cup 2019

Postby DOC » Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:56 pm

How about we drop Warner, open with Carey and play Marsh?
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Re: ODI World Cup 2019

Postby The Bedge » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:05 pm

DOC wrote:How about we drop Warner, open with Carey and play Marsh?

2nd leading run scorer & 2x 50's.

It's Khawaja that's probably under the most pressure to perform, and Marsh is a like for like replacement.
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Re: ODI World Cup 2019

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:12 pm

DOC wrote:How about we drop Warner, open with Carey and play Marsh?

No way, Carey is no Gilchrist so let's not pretend he is.

I wasn't having a dig at Warner, I don't like the guy but it's not often him batting slowly costs us a game, he's likely to churn out 130 off 105 against quality bowling in his next dig or two.
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Re: ODI World Cup 2019

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:13 pm

The Bedge wrote:
DOC wrote:How about we drop Warner, open with Carey and play Marsh?

2nd leading run scorer & 2x 50's.

It's Khawaja that's probably under the most pressure to perform, and Marsh is a like for like replacement.

Well really that is the only reason why you'd take Marsh over there, both of the same ilk.
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Re: ODI World Cup 2019

Postby Trader » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:17 pm

All this talk of Warner costing us the match is just bias towards him from those that don't want him in the team after sandpapergate.

I know he's a South Aussie, but how does Carey escape review?

Carey dropped Pandya on 0 (first ball), that cost us 48 runs off his next 26 balls.
Carey dropped Dhoni on 0 (second ball), that cost us 27 runs off his next 11 balls.

75 runs off 6.1 overs.
Don't get me wrong, the next few in would have also scored some runs, but if we can keep them to 8 an over (say 50 runs), instead of the 75 these two clobbered, then it's a totally different match, Khawaja doesn't play the shot he plays (we need less than 10 an over rather than more than 11) and who knows what happens from there.
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Re: ODI World Cup 2019

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:54 pm

Trader wrote:All this talk of Warner costing us the match is just bias towards him from those that don't want him in the team after sandpapergate.

I know he's a South Aussie, but how does Carey escape review?

Carey dropped Pandya on 0 (first ball), that cost us 48 runs off his next 26 balls.
Carey dropped Dhoni on 0 (second ball), that cost us 27 runs off his next 11 balls.

75 runs off 6.1 overs.
Don't get me wrong, the next few in would have also scored some runs, but if we can keep them to 8 an over (say 50 runs), instead of the 75 these two clobbered, then it's a totally different match, Khawaja doesn't play the shot he plays (we need less than 10 an over rather than more than 11) and who knows what happens from there.


It isn't on my behalf, he's in the team now so I've gotta accept that and just barrack for my nation.

He wasn't the sole reason we lost, a contributing factor in the chase perhaps but still had players rating below him for the game.

Starc went for too much but that number is distorted by where he bowled, apart from Cummins, we really failed with the ball, should never have let our batsmen have to chase such a total.

As for Carey, I only seen one dropped catch, I don't mind the guy but I don't think he's as great as he's made out to be, he has potential for sure but he did get a bit of a golden ticket to team, one that we'd whinge about if he was from NSW.
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Re: ODI World Cup 2019

Postby The Bedge » Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:07 pm

Carey's miss of Pandya was a sitter and cost dearly.. his drop of Dhoni was barely a chance, and doubt anyone would've taken it.

Wasn't his best game, but his batting has been consistent, more than I can say for our bowling plans.
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Re: ODI World Cup 2019

Postby locky801 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:49 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
DOC wrote:Warners 50 his slowest ever. Just what you want chasing 353

How often has that happened? us losing because Warner batted too slow.

Usually 84 balls would yield him around 90 runs, there would've been the difference.

I watched the innings spasmodically, was he out of sorts or was the bowling that good?


Certainly has changed the way he plays :shock:
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Re: ODI World Cup 2019

Postby locky801 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:51 pm

Trader wrote:
I know he's a South Aussie, but how does Carey escape review?

Carey dropped Pandya on 0 (first ball), that cost us 48 runs off his next 26 balls.
Carey dropped Dhoni on 0 (second ball), that cost us 27 runs off his next 11 balls.

75 runs off 6.1 overs.


Sounds like Zampas bowling figures ;)
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Re: ODI World Cup 2019

Postby locky801 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:52 pm

More rain, tournament is becoming a farce :oops: :oops:
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Re: ODI World Cup 2019

Postby Brodlach » Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:55 pm

locky801 wrote:More rain, tournament is becoming a farce :oops: :oops:


They reckon three days of rain and no cricket coming up, not sure if that included last night though
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Re: ODI World Cup 2019

Postby Brodlach » Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:24 pm

Stoinis out injured,Mitch Marsh on his way to England incase Stoinis has to pull out of the tournament. He picked up a side strain against India
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Re: ODI World Cup 2019

Postby The Dark Knight » Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:27 pm

Brodlach wrote:Stoinis out injured,Mitch Marsh on his way to England incase Stoinis has to pull out of the tournament. He picked up a side strain against India
Wow just read the article, well this is all conveniently timed lol.
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Re: ODI World Cup 2019

Postby The Dark Knight » Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:29 pm

Brodlach wrote:Stoinis out injured,Mitch Marsh on his way to England incase Stoinis has to pull out of the tournament. He picked up a side strain against India
Wow just read the article, well this is all conveniently timed lol.
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Re: ODI World Cup 2019

Postby Armchair expert » Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:44 pm

Armchair expert wrote:Bring back Mitch Marsh

yeah I said it


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