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Re: Port Adelaide 2019

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:55 am

helicopterking wrote:Dixon- Less then 2 goals a game since arriving at Port as a forward. Mediocre
Ryder- One really good season, 2 Average Seasons, 1 poor. - Mediocre
Rockliff- 2nd Season of just Average Football.- Mediocre
Watts- Below Standard at Melb, Same at Port- Mediocre
Lycett- 1 Season, too early to say, but is not even close to the AFLs top 10 Rucks.

Ebert is your only real winner out of the recycled guys so far.

To be fair to Dixon, the game plan that's been in place since he came here makes his strength somewhat redundant.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2019

Postby Brodlach » Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:56 am

Ryder is a definite win, should be no argument about that
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Re: Port Adelaide 2019

Postby amber_fluid » Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:00 am

Brodlach wrote:Ryder is a definite win, should be no argument about that


Yeah I agree but he does look almost finished now.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2019

Postby Booney » Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:02 am

Brodlach wrote:Ryder is a definite win, should be no argument about that


Not sure how it could be seen as anything but.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2019

Postby Brodlach » Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:03 am

Had injuries last year too.

I would give him another year
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Re: Port Adelaide 2019

Postby helicopterking » Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:17 am

Booney wrote:
Brodlach wrote:Ryder is a definite win, should be no argument about that


Not sure how it could be seen as anything but.


Understandable if you are looking for Mediocrity.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2019

Postby Booney » Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:25 am

helicopterking wrote:
Booney wrote:
Brodlach wrote:Ryder is a definite win, should be no argument about that


Not sure how it could be seen as anything but.


Understandable if you are looking for Mediocrity.


Been on our list 4 years, been All Australian in one and spent one on the sidelines.

You understand the meaning of mediocre, yes?
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Re: Port Adelaide 2019

Postby helicopterking » Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:40 am

Booney wrote:
helicopterking wrote:
Booney wrote:
Brodlach wrote:Ryder is a definite win, should be no argument about that


Not sure how it could be seen as anything but.


Understandable if you are looking for Mediocrity.


Been on our list 4 years, been All Australian in one and spent one on the sidelines.

You understand the meaning of mediocre, yes?


In his 5th year at Port.
1 year off.2016
This is his 4th playing season.
1 great year vs 2 Average years +1 Terrible year(this season).
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Re: Port Adelaide 2019

Postby Rik E Boy » Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:47 pm

whufc wrote:@Booney

How would you rate Port's recruiting of 'recycled' players that they got from other clubs. There seems to be a fair few misses there and only a few out and out undisputable wins being Ebert, Rockliff and Lycett.

Do you believe this is a key contributor to why Port haven't progressed a whole lot in recent times despite a pretty talented young core coming through.

-Ryder
-Dixon
-Lycett
-Watts
-Rockliff
-Sutcliffe
-Mayes
-Ebert
-Motlop
-McKenzie


You forgot Booney's favourite Thomas. :lol:

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Re: Port Adelaide 2019

Postby beef » Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:25 pm

Most of them sound like Carlton/GWS deals. Some are shit but didnt cost us anything so its ok. Need to include Thomas and Trengove. Ryder a win, Lycett will be a win. Ebert a win. Not sure on any others being graded a win.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2019

Postby MW » Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:35 pm

It's cost you $ in the salary cap and a spot on the list you could be developing someone on. The only thing it didn't cost you is a trade.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2019

Postby DOC » Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:40 pm

Jimmy Toumpas Loss
Matthew White Win
Jarred Polec Win
Angus Monfries Win
Jack Hombsch Win
Lewis Stephenson Loss but no biggie
Cambell Heath Loss but no biggie
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Re: Port Adelaide 2019

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:43 pm

DOC wrote:Jimmy Toumpas Loss
Matthew White Win
Jarred Polec Win
Angus Monfries Win
Jack Hombsch Win
Lewis Stephenson Loss but no biggie
Cambell Heath Loss but no biggie


Can we put together a dud recruit team?
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Re: Port Adelaide 2019

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:43 pm

DOC wrote:Jimmy Toumpas Loss
Matthew White Win
Jarred Polec Win
Angus Monfries Win
Jack Hombsch Win
Lewis Stephenson Loss but no biggie
Cambell Heath Loss but no biggie

Monfries a win? He did one good thing for Port and that was by accident, I don't know how he stayed after the banning.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2019

Postby Rik E Boy » Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:46 pm

beef wrote:Most of them sound like Carlton/GWS deals. Some are shit but didnt cost us anything so its ok. Need to include Thomas and Trengove. Ryder a win, Lycett will be a win. Ebert a win. Not sure on any others being graded a win.


Watts could still be a win. He looked ok before getting hurt earlier in the year. Been said before of course but not a total loss as yet for Watts in my view.

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Re: Port Adelaide 2019

Postby DOC » Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:47 pm

You have to look at trades in context.

The last two on my little list Port gave up very little (late draft picks 80* or there abouts).
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Re: Port Adelaide 2019

Postby Booney » Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:54 pm

I don’t recall being told we’d go ultra defensive when things didn’t go our way. I certainly don’t recall being told we’d load up the back half of the ground and leave a 10 game kid on his own up front to win the game. But that’s what happened in the last quarter of a “must win” game in Perth on the weekend.

In an uncharacteristic start to the game Port jumped the Dockers to have 2 goals, both to Paddy Ryder, on the board in the first 7 minutes. General play was on an even keel but in transition Port used the ball far better and faster than Fremantle and had time and space to move inside the forward half. Ryder kicked one from the square, one from 15m out, Westhoff kicked his 300th career goal with a ripper from the boundary and Farrell, with is lethal left foot, kicked truly from 45 twice to give Port an 11 point quarter time lead. Bar a snap ( some, including me, might say lucky ) from Matera Port should/could/would have been 3 important majors in front. Movement from defence to the front half through Hartlett in a super return to AFL football, along with Burton, Houston and Amon early had promise written all over it.

Momentum swung, quickly. 5 goals to two as Hogan got on his bike and left Clurey or Jonas behind him, Walters was doing as he pleased on the deepest defender ( often Jonas or DBJ ) and the midfield was struggling to temper the impact of Nat Fyfe. Fyfe and Boak went head to head for most of the game, from about midway through the second quarter and it was a pleasure to watch, well, not the purple part in this contest anyway.
In the second quarter Fremantle upped the tackle pressure, Port’s dropped off, especially in the middle where Fremantle had 4 clearances to 2 and had kicked 2 goals to nothing from those clearances. Young Fremantle ruckman Darcy was holding his own, Walters kicked 3 for the quarter and bar Boak and Burton Fremantle had us.

Swings/roundabouts. 5 goals to 4 in the third and Port have got some of that run and carry back. Boak was sensational again in the third, Lycett had the better of hitouts (5-1 early), Houston had 6 I50’s after getting on the end of some run generated by Duursma and within 10 minutes we’d laid more tackles than we did for the whole second quarter. This is better. This is the standard. On ¾ time Farrell kicks his 4th to hit the front again and its level pegging going into a very, very important last quarter.

I’d like to end my review here, if I could.

Smashed. Slaughtered. Belted. It was an awful 30 minutes that followed. As Darcy made a cooked Lycett look old and slow, Ryder looked old and slow, while forward of the ball Farrell is left one out against 3 as Port park the bus defensively going against everything we were told we’d be over summer. The midfield is getting smashed as Darcy gets first touch to a dominant midfield and the back half is under the pump. Meanwhile Howard is somewhere or other having zero touches for the quarter. Could he have gone into the ruck? Could he have gone back? Could. Should. Would. 9 touches in the forward half for the term, 3 goals 4 to nothing and our ball use was appalling. Appalling. Numbers behind the ball made it impossible to score and this scoreless quarter looked worse and hurt more than the scoreless first quarter in Tasmania. Why Lycett was left in the middle and why Jonas was left deep on Walters as we went ultra defensive has me beat. Just like the Dockers had us beat.

Boon's best : Boak, R.Gray, Burton, Farrell, Duursma, Hartlett

2019 is rinse and repeat. Too much left to too few and too many having no impact. With Wines and Dixon looking like certainties to come in this week and Rockliff and Ebert right behind them there’s several in the AFL side who are on the outer.

My changes at this stage :

Out – Motlop, Lienert ( Or S.Gray, Butters )
In – Wines, Dixon
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Re: Port Adelaide 2019

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Jun 17, 2019 2:03 pm

I was umpiring while the Freo vs Port game was on so I can't judge.

Did Lienert play crap? I like the lad, Sam Gray is our biggest down hill skier.
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Port Adelaide 2019

Postby Jim05 » Mon Jun 17, 2019 2:05 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:I was umpiring while the Freo vs Port game was on so I can't judge.

Did Lienert play crap? I like the lad, Sam Gray is our biggest down hill skier.

As a neutral I thought Lienert burnt it a few times and seemed to play with little accountability. Was often nowhere near his opponent and wanted to almost play as a spare.
I will probably get shot down but I’ve never thought Sam Gray is up to it and surprised he has lasted so long
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Re: Port Adelaide 2019

Postby The Bedge » Mon Jun 17, 2019 2:15 pm

Booney wrote:In an uncharacteristic start to the game Port jumped the Dockers to have 2 goals, both to Paddy Ryder, on the board in the first 7 minutes.

Alarmingly his only two kicks for the game.
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