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Re: 2019 Silly Season

Postby Dutchy » Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:38 pm

Spangas wrote:I reckon Brisbane Bears would have folded if they didn't move from the GC to Brisbane.
2 footy teams in QLD is not sustainable. Rugby will always be number 1.


Rugby even struggles on the GC, there is still debate if the titans are sustainable up there
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Re: 2019 Silly Season

Postby Spargo » Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:47 pm

Booney wrote:Out of contract fringe Swans ruckman Darcy Cameron has told Sydney today he wants to be traded to Collingwood.


That’s bad news for South Adelaide...
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Re: 2019 Silly Season

Postby Spargo » Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:55 pm

2020 Premiership odds;

$4.00 - Richmond
$6.50 - West Coast
$7.50 - GWS
$8.00 - Collingwood
$9.00 - Brisbane, Geelong
$12.00 - Western Bulldogs
$17.00 - Hawthorn
$21.00 - Essendon
$23.00 - North, Port
$26.00 - Melbourne
$34.00 - Adelaide, Carlton
$51.00 - Freo, St.Kilda, Sydney
$251.00 - Gold Coast
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Re: 2019 Silly Season

Postby daysofourlives » Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:22 pm

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gadj1976 wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:so they are essentially getting rewarded for running their club poorly?


Difficult to know. Gold Coast isn't the best place to live I wouldn't imagine.

Plus, if you've now got the template of Prestia and Lynch moving on for premierships, it doesn't bode well for them does it?

is it really the club's fault for players wanting to go home or seeking better opportunities?

I think their drafting has been poor and their player development just as poor. Moving on McKenna hasn't proven to be a great decision, they've only gone backwards from there.

I seriously don't know if it's 100% the club's fault.

Of course it’s the clubs fault. GWS and the Suns were given pretty similar concessions to start up and yet GWS is a regular finals contentender whilst the Suns have never even made finals. Sheedy was fairly smart when setting GWS up and they selected some good leaders first and filled their list with kids and were prepared to cop a few years of pain to keep collecting picks and building their list. The Suns went out and wasted their dough on god boy and other club discards which set a garbage culture from the start.


That's absolute crap JIm, GWS were given far better draft picks to start their club with. The AFL stuffed up the Gold Coast from the beginning. They also need extra salary to keep them there.
The AFL should make an offer to Joel Selwood that he cant refuse to go up there, take his brother with, they are the perfect fit to get the club on track
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Re: 2019 Silly Season

Postby daysofourlives » Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:28 pm

Pick 19 and 20 for B Crouch seems about right. No way will the AFL let them trade pick 1 or 2. I have a feeling that's why they might have been given that extra pick at the start of the 2nd round.
The Suns certainly cant afford to trade away pick 1 or 2 for Crouch and them have him sit out injured for a season as has been his history. Crouch is a massive risk for them
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Re: 2019 Silly Season

Postby Booney » Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:41 pm

Frampton requests a trade
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Re: 2019 Silly Season

Postby MW » Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:44 pm

daysofourlives wrote:Pick 19 and 20 for B Crouch seems about right. No way will the AFL let them trade pick 1 or 2. I have a feeling that's why they might have been given that extra pick at the start of the 2nd round.
The Suns certainly cant afford to trade away pick 1 or 2 for Crouch and them have him sit out injured for a season as has been his history. Crouch is a massive risk for them


19 and 20 for a guy who will get 5m over 5 years is massive unders
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Re: 2019 Silly Season

Postby daysofourlives » Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:46 pm

MW wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:Pick 19 and 20 for B Crouch seems about right. No way will the AFL let them trade pick 1 or 2. I have a feeling that's why they might have been given that extra pick at the start of the 2nd round.
The Suns certainly cant afford to trade away pick 1 or 2 for Crouch and them have him sit out injured for a season as has been his history. Crouch is a massive risk for them


19 and 20 for a guy who will get 5m over 5 years is massive unders


What is the points for 19 and 20 equivalent to?
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Re: 2019 Silly Season

Postby stan » Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:55 pm

MW wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:Pick 19 and 20 for B Crouch seems about right. No way will the AFL let them trade pick 1 or 2. I have a feeling that's why they might have been given that extra pick at the start of the 2nd round.
The Suns certainly cant afford to trade away pick 1 or 2 for Crouch and them have him sit out injured for a season as has been his history. Crouch is a massive risk for them


19 and 20 for a guy who will get 5m over 5 years is massive unders
Yeah it sure is. Hang on to him this year. Let him go ad a free agent a s realistically your finishing top 8 next year are you. So the band 1 compo pick for a deal that big will be a decent first round. Depends on how you go in 2020, but could be a pick around 6 or 7.
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Re: 2019 Silly Season

Postby tigerpie » Mon Sep 30, 2019 9:00 pm

gadj1976 wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:so they are essentially getting rewarded for running their club poorly?


Difficult to know. Gold Coast isn't the best place to live I wouldn't imagine.

Plus, if you've now got the template of Prestia and Lynch moving on for premierships, it doesn't bode well for them does it?

is it really the club's fault for players wanting to go home or seeking better opportunities?

I think their drafting has been poor and their player development just as poor. Moving on McKenna hasn't proven to be a great decision, they've only gone backwards from there.

I seriously don't know if it's 100% the club's fault.

Gee I can think of worse places in Australia to live.
Great climate, awesome scenery and nobody knows or cares who you are.

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Re: 2019 Silly Season

Postby stan » Mon Sep 30, 2019 9:03 pm

Just before we go hard on Lynch, he spent a good 6 or 7 years on the Gold Coast list before heading home. That's not bad considering some of the piss weak efforts we have seen from the Vic Metro sookies
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Re: 2019 Silly Season

Postby daysofourlives » Mon Sep 30, 2019 10:58 pm

daysofourlives wrote:
MW wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:Pick 19 and 20 for B Crouch seems about right. No way will the AFL let them trade pick 1 or 2. I have a feeling that's why they might have been given that extra pick at the start of the 2nd round.
The Suns certainly cant afford to trade away pick 1 or 2 for Crouch and them have him sit out injured for a season as has been his history. Crouch is a massive risk for them


19 and 20 for a guy who will get 5m over 5 years is massive unders


What is the points for 19 and 20 equivalent to?

Ill answer my own question
19=948
20=912
1860
5=1878
6=1751
so pretty much worth pick 5, I think that's about right.
Bare in mind the crows as it stands have a horrible draft hand, pick 4 and then nothing until the 60s or 70s I believe. They are going to need to replace at least a dozen players, not sure how many of them they will be earning them good draft picks. Wouldn't want to fill the squad with picks 100 to 108 for instance lol
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Re: 2019 Silly Season

Postby Dutchy » Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:25 pm

The B Crouch rumours aren't going away, wonder if he is waiting to say something after their B&F this week?
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Re: 2019 Silly Season

Postby MW » Tue Oct 01, 2019 8:35 am

daysofourlives wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:
MW wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:Pick 19 and 20 for B Crouch seems about right. No way will the AFL let them trade pick 1 or 2. I have a feeling that's why they might have been given that extra pick at the start of the 2nd round.
The Suns certainly cant afford to trade away pick 1 or 2 for Crouch and them have him sit out injured for a season as has been his history. Crouch is a massive risk for them


19 and 20 for a guy who will get 5m over 5 years is massive unders


What is the points for 19 and 20 equivalent to?

Ill answer my own question
19=948
20=912
1860
5=1878
6=1751
so pretty much worth pick 5, I think that's about right.
Bare in mind the crows as it stands have a horrible draft hand, pick 4 and then nothing until the 60s or 70s I believe. They are going to need to replace at least a dozen players, not sure how many of them they will be earning them good draft picks. Wouldn't want to fill the squad with picks 100 to 108 for instance lol


They have pick 4 and two more picks in the 20's this year before getting what they get for greenwood, keath, betts, JJ etc
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Re: 2019 Silly Season

Postby Booney » Tue Oct 01, 2019 8:49 am

Jon Patton GWS > Hawthorn

Zak Jones Sydney > St Kilda

Mooted Hill to St Kilda for pick 6, Fremantle give Geelong 6 and 7 for Kelly ( Geelong would have to take that )

Frampton Port > Fremantle/Adelaide

Elliott Collingwood > Melbourne
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Re: 2019 Silly Season

Postby Booney » Tue Oct 01, 2019 8:52 am

Ablett reportedly has an agreement to play on if he chooses too.
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Re: 2019 Silly Season

Postby Rik E Boy » Tue Oct 01, 2019 8:55 am

Booney wrote:Jon Patton GWS > Hawthorn

Zak Jones Sydney > St Kilda

Mooted Hill to St Kilda for pick 6, Fremantle give Geelong 6 and 7 for Kelly ( Geelong would have to take that )

Frampton Port > Fremantle/Adelaide

Elliott Collingwood > Melbourne



Cats should take that in heartbeat. We need some quality youth. Kelly loss is massive of course but we aren't contending (despite finishing top can you believe) and we just don't get access to top ten picks. This could be a massive draft for the Cats. Hope so anyway. Kel doesn't want to play for us so if we can get 6 and 7 that is more than fair. It screws the Eagles too...added bonus.

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Re: 2019 Silly Season

Postby Rik E Boy » Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:00 am

Booney wrote:Ablett reportedly has an agreement to play on if he chooses too.


Sad to say but Gaz is cooked. I'd be amazed if he retired. He just had to be shoved IMO. Ablett will still play some brilliant football for the Cats next season but come September the tank will be well and truly empty as it was this season. If Gaz does play on, we can't play him every week like we did this season. He needs to be nursed through the year Luke Hodge like so that he has something in the tank when the finals come around. We can't field a team of slow, knackered veterans and expect to beat the likes of GWS and Richmond.

In other Cat news Scott Selwood has been delisted. Scotty gave his all but injuries got the better of him, particularly this season. It was a good idea to get him to the club and we tried to develop him as a run with player but his body never really allowed him to show his best football often enough. You could probably say the same for his days at West Coast. I think Gaz should go and Taylor should walk away also. Yoof Catters Yoof!

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Re: 2019 Silly Season

Postby Booney » Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:02 am

I think they should top up with the likes of Jenkins and Steven to have another shot at it.
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Re: 2019 Silly Season

Postby Brodlach » Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:18 am

Booney wrote:I think they WILL top up with the likes of Jenkins and Steven to have another shot at it.



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