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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby Dutchy » Mon Nov 11, 2019 12:13 pm

Small boundaries in u14 cricket, on a fast outfield every run is either 1 or a boundary, kids are not learning how to run/judge 2's & 3's, Id rather they make the boundaries too big than too small.
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby MW » Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:21 am

MW wrote:So one of my workers who DIDN'T receive a redundancy on Thursday has decided to clean out his desk on Friday. Literally nothing left but the PC. All work in progress, prototypes, designs, books, files in the bin. Will be interesting to see if he comes back to work (due Tuesday). Even if he does, it's not going to be a good conversation for him as retirement might not even be an option for him now....


Update: Said employee has now submitted a sick leave cert for 2 weeks with aim to submit other certs until the end of the year - then go on 6 months LSL and force us to fire him after that. All because he didn't get a redundancy.
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby Booney » Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:24 am

MW wrote:
MW wrote:So one of my workers who DIDN'T receive a redundancy on Thursday has decided to clean out his desk on Friday. Literally nothing left but the PC. All work in progress, prototypes, designs, books, files in the bin. Will be interesting to see if he comes back to work (due Tuesday). Even if he does, it's not going to be a good conversation for him as retirement might not even be an option for him now....


Update: Said employee has now submitted a sick leave cert for 2 weeks with aim to submit other certs until the end of the year - then go on 6 months LSL and force us to fire him after that. All because he didn't get a redundancy.


That's an ugly situation for everyone involved.
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby MW » Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:30 am

Sure is. 46 years service.
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:38 am

Drastic measure.

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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby MW » Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:46 am

Not a smart one either. the guy has about 1 year of S/L that would get paid out on retirement. He forfeits this now.
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby Spargo » Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:48 am

MW wrote:
MW wrote:So one of my workers who DIDN'T receive a redundancy on Thursday has decided to clean out his desk on Friday. Literally nothing left but the PC. All work in progress, prototypes, designs, books, files in the bin. Will be interesting to see if he comes back to work (due Tuesday). Even if he does, it's not going to be a good conversation for him as retirement might not even be an option for him now....


Update: Said employee has now submitted a sick leave cert for 2 weeks with aim to submit other certs until the end of the year - then go on 6 months LSL and force us to fire him after that. All because he didn't get a redundancy.


Excuse my ignorance, but if he submits legitimate sick certificates until the end of the year & then takes LSL after that (which I assume he’s entitled to), on what grounds would you be forced to fire him?
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby MW » Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:53 am

Because he won't come back. he can of course retire or resign.
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:55 am

Yeah Im with Spargo, its not as if he has 'abandoned' his job.
Why does he get paid out on sick leave? Is that part of an arrangement in your workplace?

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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby Spargo » Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:55 am

MW wrote:Because he won't come back. he can of course retire or resign.

Ah, ok.
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby Booney » Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:56 am

Can I ask why he wasn't offered a redundancy? I would have thought he'd be a prime candidate to move on, I appreciate it would be a massive cost to the company but that's money he's entitled too either way.
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:57 am

MW wrote:Because he won't come back. he can of course retire or resign.


Were the redundancies discussed on a case by case situation with each employee?
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:58 am

Booney wrote:Can I ask why he wasn't offered a redundancy? I would have thought he'd be a prime candidate to move on, I appreciate it would be a massive cost to the company but that's money he's entitled too either way.

At a guess he would've cost the company a lot higher amount to make redundant given age and possible length of service to the company.
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby MW » Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:59 am

Booney wrote:Can I ask why he wasn't offered a redundancy? I would have thought he'd be a prime candidate to move on, I appreciate it would be a massive cost to the company but that's money he's entitled too either way.


It wasn't voluntary it was forced on a skills and needs basis. I have a relatively young team that needs his experience. He is (from an age point of view) still a couple of years from retirement and I need(ed) his expertise to help the young Engineers.
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:59 am

MW wrote:Not a smart one either. the guy has about 1 year of S/L that would get paid out on retirement. He forfeits this now.

Maybe he'll stall long enough for this.
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby Booney » Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:04 am

MW wrote:
Booney wrote:Can I ask why he wasn't offered a redundancy? I would have thought he'd be a prime candidate to move on, I appreciate it would be a massive cost to the company but that's money he's entitled too either way.


It wasn't voluntary it was forced on a skills and needs basis. I have a relatively young team that needs his experience. He is (from an age point of view) still a couple of years from retirement and I need(ed) his expertise to help the young Engineers.


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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby Bum Crack » Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:05 am

MW wrote:Because he won't come back. he can of course retire or resign.

I thought you said he would get paid out his sick leave if he retires?
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby MW » Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:46 am

Bum Crack wrote:
MW wrote:Because he won't come back. he can of course retire or resign.

I thought you said he would get paid out his sick leave if he retires?


He's already indicated his intention is to force us to sack him after his LSL period. I guess he's got until then to realise in his best interest to retire
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby LMA » Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:17 am

MW wrote:
Booney wrote:Can I ask why he wasn't offered a redundancy? I would have thought he'd be a prime candidate to move on, I appreciate it would be a massive cost to the company but that's money he's entitled too either way.


It wasn't voluntary it was forced on a skills and needs basis. I have a relatively young team that needs his experience. He is (from an age point of view) still a couple of years from retirement and I need(ed) his expertise to help the young Engineers.


I work with a guy like that, has 30 years experience and keeps all his knowledge in his head. Knows more than the engineers but trying to extract the information from his brain into work instructions is near impossible, making him an absolute asset. I'm trying to get into a role where I shadow him so I can become the crafty old **** they can't get rid of when he retires.
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:20 am

LMA wrote:
I work with a guy like that, has 30 years experience and keeps all his knowledge in his head. Knows more than the engineers but trying to extract the information from his brain into work instructions is near impossible, making him an absolute asset. I'm trying to get into a role where I shadow him so I can become the crafty old **** they can't get rid of when he retires.

:lol: :lol:

It has it's perks and disadvantages, that is me and the older bloke I work with to a tee.

I take 2 weeks off and there's a 10 to 15K variance in KPI's for the EOM report each time, I strategically take my annual leave to show them my worth from what's in my head, some shit you just can't teach others for various reasons.
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