by Booney » Mon Dec 16, 2019 3:40 pm
by JK » Mon Dec 16, 2019 3:46 pm
by Brodlach » Mon Dec 16, 2019 3:47 pm
Brodlach wrote:Rory Laird might end up the best IMO, he is an absolute jet. He has been in great form at the Bloods
by Booney » Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:11 pm
by Booney » Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:15 pm
Brodlach wrote:Hopefully Port get a big fat donut in the win column in 2020
by LMA » Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:18 pm
UK Fan wrote:KT started well but fair to say but he’s struggled the last few seasons.
Re-signing Hinkley incase he’s lost to Gold Coast
Not trusting his gut on the dual captaincy call
Struggling to attract that second major sponsor
No real traction in China
Causing a disconnect between the club and it’s fans.
Crowds dropping away as quickly as they have at Adelaide Oval.
Port achieving no onfield success whilst in his tenure
“The Norwood Flog” did a great job setting up PAFC initially at Adelaide Oval and NTUA will be forever in PAFC folklore imho.
So at this stage KT and Hinkley gone at years end (if no finals for Ken) Only Koch to go.
by UK Fan » Tue Dec 17, 2019 12:34 pm
Booney wrote:Im not close to the inner workings of the club, but to play devils advocate ...
Re-signing Hinkley incase he’s lost to Gold Coast Hard to know how much of it was KT's call - I suspect he would have heavily supported it. We don't know the financial impact of KH vs some else.
I think Hinkley and his team managed this very well, having said that we had just lost an elimination in OT after going 14-9 in 2017 and at that point he'd guided us to 3 finals campaigns in 5 years. I think Hinkley won the chess match here, but I'm not sure fans would have taken to him being sacked right at that point, either. ( 2018 and 2019 in hindsight they/we would have ).
Not trusting his gut on the dual captaincy call - Tough one. Didn't work for sure but that couldn't have been known til after the event. The supporter backlash would have been known but surely no club can let the inmates run the assylum?
KT would have had a say in the captaincy call, they didn't listen to members and have taken that on board this year and rectified it. Who had the final say on this? I'd say the football department and the board more than the CEO.
Struggling to attract that second major sponsor - Yep
Watch this space.
No real traction in China - Im not sure anyone outside of Alberton or AFL HQ knows how well (or otherwise) this is faring.
"No real traction" is just incorrect, the club is in a much better financial position than it was before the China Strategy was initiated.
Causing a disconnect between the club and it’s fans. How? I always felt that disconnect would have been worse without KT?
Did he cause it or was he a part of it? He himself admitted he was a part of it. Was he the cause? As with all organisations this big there's rarely one person to blame / at fault with matters like this, nobody has the autonomy / authority to cause that issue on their own.
Crowds dropping away as quickly as they have at Adelaide Oval. Not sure how much of that was within his control - He doesn't create the fixture nor poor onfield performances
He's overseen the whole shebang, if we're not winning because of any of his decisions then again, he's partly to blame but it's not all on him, I think the players can shoulder most of this weight with the head coach.
Port achieving no onfield success whilst in his tenure - Same as the previous line, but you're right, supporters will generally associate a player or officials time at a club with the level of success during their tenure.
KT took over in late 2011 ( from memory ) since then we've played finals '13, '14, '17 and finished below 10th once, in his first full year in 2012. No premierships, which is the ultimate success, no doubt, but given the 3 wins in 2011 in front of an average 19,000 people I'll take the last 7 years over that, any day.
Even the most ridiculously one-eyed Port Adelaide hater cannot mount a case to say the club is not in a vastly better position now than when KT arrived. In fact, you're no accepting logic or fact that we are if that's how you think.
Has everything on his watch been right? Nope, Hinkley's extension ( with hindsight ) and the co-captaincy ( again, with hindsight ) would be revisited if he had his time over I would say.
fester69 wrote: I'm full of "pish and wind" !!You can call me weak !!
MW wrote: Well call me a special asshole!.
Booney wrote: I'm a happy clapper **** stick.
by UK Fan » Tue Dec 17, 2019 12:38 pm
LMA wrote:UK Fan wrote:KT started well but fair to say but he’s struggled the last few seasons.
Re-signing Hinkley incase he’s lost to Gold Coast
Not trusting his gut on the dual captaincy call
Struggling to attract that second major sponsor
No real traction in China
Causing a disconnect between the club and it’s fans.
Crowds dropping away as quickly as they have at Adelaide Oval.
Port achieving no onfield success whilst in his tenure
“The Norwood Flog” did a great job setting up PAFC initially at Adelaide Oval and NTUA will be forever in PAFC folklore imho.
So at this stage KT and Hinkley gone at years end (if no finals for Ken) Only Koch to go.
This has become personal for you, hasn't it? Are you in fact one of the "disconnected" fans?
fester69 wrote: I'm full of "pish and wind" !!You can call me weak !!
MW wrote: Well call me a special asshole!.
Booney wrote: I'm a happy clapper **** stick.
by LMA » Tue Dec 17, 2019 10:00 pm
UK Fan wrote:LMA wrote:UK Fan wrote:KT started well but fair to say but he’s struggled the last few seasons.
Re-signing Hinkley incase he’s lost to Gold Coast
Not trusting his gut on the dual captaincy call
Struggling to attract that second major sponsor
No real traction in China
Causing a disconnect between the club and it’s fans.
Crowds dropping away as quickly as they have at Adelaide Oval.
Port achieving no onfield success whilst in his tenure
“The Norwood Flog” did a great job setting up PAFC initially at Adelaide Oval and NTUA will be forever in PAFC folklore imho.
So at this stage KT and Hinkley gone at years end (if no finals for Ken) Only Koch to go.
This has become personal for you, hasn't it? Are you in fact one of the "disconnected" fans?
Yet again you just couldn’t be more wrong. Most of the adults seem to agree with what’s written above.
I could not be happier with how much KT has messed it up tbh
by Booney » Wed Dec 18, 2019 8:09 am
LMA wrote:Not a disconnected fan then. As you don't identify as an AFL club supporter does your hatred of Port stem from still being butt hurt from your formative years of SANFL footy, or am I overthinking it and you're simply here to shit stir Port fans?
I'll let the adults decide.
by Booney » Wed Dec 18, 2019 8:22 am
by DOC » Wed Dec 18, 2019 8:26 am
by am Bays » Wed Dec 18, 2019 11:54 am
Holy shit we mostly agree Mr Boon. KT would love a do over on his last couple of years imho. The momentum he built when Port moved to Adelaide Oval appears to be gone as he himself has conceded.
Outside of that he did a great job early doors as mentioned previously. We will just have to agree to disagree about the China traction.
It will be tough to find a better replacement IMHO.
by LMA » Wed Dec 18, 2019 8:10 pm
DOC wrote:This is when football clubs can be at their best. Being there for when an old team mate (a very loyal one) needs support.
by Booney » Thu Dec 19, 2019 8:57 am
LMA wrote:DOC wrote:This is when football clubs can be at their best. Being there for when an old team mate (a very loyal one) needs support.
Spot on, at all levels of participation. Tight knit the old Port boys, some still go on a yearly "footy" trip to catch up.
by JK » Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:03 pm
Booney wrote:LMA wrote:DOC wrote:This is when football clubs can be at their best. Being there for when an old team mate (a very loyal one) needs support.
Spot on, at all levels of participation. Tight knit the old Port boys, some still go on a yearly "footy" trip to catch up.
The annual Xmas pageant / pub crawl attracts a decent turn out every year too. Several were in fine form this year, Richard Foster was in exceptional shape.
by Booney » Fri Dec 20, 2019 8:35 am
by Dutchy » Fri Dec 20, 2019 8:39 am
Booney wrote:Has @rucci sent @Dutchy any DM's over the last 24 hours?
by Rik E Boy » Fri Dec 20, 2019 8:39 am
Brodlach wrote:Hopefully Port get a big fat donut in the win column in 2020
by Booney » Fri Dec 20, 2019 8:43 am
Dutchy wrote:Booney wrote:Has @rucci sent @Dutchy any DM's over the last 24 hours?
He is in the hills of Tuscany well out of range!
I miss him
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