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robranisgod wrote:RB wrote:Nup, looking to beat Torrens' record of going without a spoon for their first 33 seasons. Wouldn't be many teams anywhere that have done that.
I always thought that the Natives Football club which won the wooden spoon in 1896 and West Torrens Football Club were in fact the same club, the same as Medindie Football Club and North Adelaide Football Club and more recently Footscray Football Club and the Western Bulldogs Football Club.
In no way am I trying to decry West Torrens (my mother would roll in her grave) but I just seek clarification as to whether Natives changed their name to West Torrens or they were two separate clubs.
The "Natives" name appears to have been historically confusing:-
https://australian-rules-football.fando ... AFA_Season
"..."This prompted F. Ward of the Natives Football Club to write to the South Australian Chronicle on the matter. He said:
"We would be glad if you would kindly mention in your report of the football match between the Ports and Port Natives, on the Alberton Oval this (Saturday) afternoon, that the Port Natives are not to be confounded with the Natives — the new senior club. The Port Natives are simply the Albertons of last year."
This quote is found under the sub headings "Season Fixture>Practice Matches"
Regarding "Natives":-
"The Natives Football Club is a former club in the South Australian Football Association (S.A.F.A). When inducted into the SAFA, the club played in two seasons."
https://australian-rules-football.fando ... tball_Club
I suspect that these were the "Natives" that brought home the spoon in 1895 as per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_S ... den_spoons, and understand that "Port Natives" played in the Adelaide and Suburban Association, simplified their name to "Natives" in 1896 and adopted "West Torrens" the year after.
Regarding "Port Natives":-
"This was a splinter group of dissatisfied members of the Port Adelaide Football Club, who, in 1894, broke from that Club when unable to get games with Port, and formed their own team known as the Port Natives. This Club was accepted into the Adelaide and Suburban Association and won two Premierships in a row. The success was cut short when the Adelaide and Suburban competition went into a recess. The Port Natives, at their Annual meeting in March 1896, renamed themselves simply “Natives” and were accepted into to South Australian Football Association for that season."
https://wwtfc.com.au/west-torrens-footb ... b-history/
Again, apologies if I've duplicated a topic on there, no disrespect intended.