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Re: AFL Round 2

Postby Jim05 » Mon Jun 15, 2020 9:08 am

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Jim05 wrote:Essendon in front all day and yet Sydney win the free kick count 25-13. Even with no crowd the umpiring was its usual Sydney biased



Sydney Bias!!! Surely you are taking the piss

Stats say 25-13 mate.
It’s not even the numbers that matter though but the consistency. I can’t fathom how frees can be paid or unpaid at one end but not the other and there was one ump in particular who I can’t honestly remember paying a free our way.
If Kennedy got away with one more basketball throw I was going to launch the remote at the TV.
Anyway it’s done now and we broke the hoodoo, two pretty ordinary sides that are around the 10th-14th mark I feel. We still have massive issues but I’ll gladly take a 2-0 start
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Re: AFL Round 2

Postby Booney » Mon Jun 15, 2020 9:43 am

One thing from Saturday night and I'm all for diversity and inclusion, but Glouftis should not be umpiring at AFL level. She literally looks to one of the other umpires for affirmation before she makes any decision and three times Saturday night another umpire called a free for a play that she was controlling.

Does anyone know if umpires are being rotated? She didn't officiate in the last quarter.
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Re: AFL Round 2

Postby Senor Moto Gadili » Mon Jun 15, 2020 9:55 am

Booney wrote:One thing from Saturday night and I'm all for diversity and inclusion, but Glouftis should not be umpiring at AFL level. She literally looks to one of the other umpires for affirmation before she makes any decision and three times Saturday night another umpire called a free for a play that she was controlling.

Does anyone know if umpires are being rotated? She didn't officiate in the last quarter.

She's an easy target for criticism. There would have been a number of instances over the round where decisions were made by a "non controlling" umpire and from what I saw there were umpires in other games that may have influenced the result due to their poor decision making. We should accept that umpires make mistakes.
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Re: AFL Round 2

Postby Jim05 » Mon Jun 15, 2020 9:58 am

Senor Moto Gadili wrote:
Booney wrote:One thing from Saturday night and I'm all for diversity and inclusion, but Glouftis should not be umpiring at AFL level. She literally looks to one of the other umpires for affirmation before she makes any decision and three times Saturday night another umpire called a free for a play that she was controlling.

Does anyone know if umpires are being rotated? She didn't officiate in the last quarter.

She's an easy target for criticism. There would have been a number of instances over the round where decisions were made by a "non controlling" umpire and from what I saw there were umpires in other games that may have influenced the result due to their poor decision making. We should accept that umpires make mistakes.
She is a pretty poor umpire but atleast she isn’t a cheat like Margetts
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Re: AFL Round 2

Postby woodublieve12 » Mon Jun 15, 2020 10:04 am

Can’t believe we restarted the season in the middle of a pandemic. Should never have come back!!
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Re: AFL Round 2

Postby am Bays » Mon Jun 15, 2020 10:05 am

Senor Moto Gadili wrote:
Booney wrote:One thing from Saturday night and I'm all for diversity and inclusion, but Glouftis should not be umpiring at AFL level. She literally looks to one of the other umpires for affirmation before she makes any decision and three times Saturday night another umpire called a free for a play that she was controlling.

Does anyone know if umpires are being rotated? She didn't officiate in the last quarter.

She's an easy target for criticism. There would have been a number of instances over the round where decisions were made by a "non controlling" umpire and from what I saw there were umpires in other games that may have influenced the result due to their poor decision making. We should accept that umpires make mistakes.


At the AFL level the whole notion of the controlling umpire is being les emphasised as opposed to umpiring as a team. Their positioning and squeezing up at stoppages and free kicks has changed enormously in the last five years. They basically try to get a 360 view of the entire play between the three umpires.

Whilst there is a nominated in control umpire and the others are instructed to only pay free kicks if they are "major and obvious" but the way they set up now is that that the controlling umpire will mover around the contest (ball up throw in) but the others will be located so they can see the back and front of the contest for the off the ball holds and illegal (high) contacts.

So in a nutshell you see far more off the ball free kicks now from the non-controlling umpires
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Re: AFL Round 2

Postby Booney » Mon Jun 15, 2020 10:09 am

Senor Moto Gadili wrote:
Booney wrote:One thing from Saturday night and I'm all for diversity and inclusion, but Glouftis should not be umpiring at AFL level. She literally looks to one of the other umpires for affirmation before she makes any decision and three times Saturday night another umpire called a free for a play that she was controlling.

Does anyone know if umpires are being rotated? She didn't officiate in the last quarter.

She's an easy target for criticism. There would have been a number of instances over the round where decisions were made by a "non controlling" umpire and from what I saw there were umpires in other games that may have influenced the result due to their poor decision making. We should accept that umpires make mistakes.


Agreed, she is an easy target but I'm not saying she's poor because she's a she, I'm just saying she's a poor umpire.

In fact I think there some worse than she is, Findlay and Stephens come to mind.
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Re: AFL Round 2

Postby Spargo » Mon Jun 15, 2020 10:12 am

Definitely noticed players were given more time to dispose of the footy over the weekend.
As long as they’re consistent with it, I think it’s a positive move which keeps the game flowing.
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Re: AFL Round 2

Postby Booney » Mon Jun 15, 2020 10:34 am

How did Burgoyne get off with just a fine?
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Re: AFL Round 2

Postby Bum Crack » Mon Jun 15, 2020 10:44 am

Booney wrote:How did Burgoyne get off with just a fine?

Yeah crazy. Mind you, Patrick would have probably got off too if it was the other way around.
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Re: AFL Round 2

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Jun 15, 2020 10:44 am

Booney wrote:How did Burgoyne get off with just a fine?

Track record at a guess?
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Re: AFL Round 2

Postby Spargo » Mon Jun 15, 2020 10:46 am

Booney wrote:How did Burgoyne get off with just a fine?

Because Dangerfield wasn’t concussed/injured.
It’s ridiculous that it’s based on the outcome & not the action.
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Re: AFL Round 2

Postby daysofourlives » Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:27 am

Booney wrote:One thing from Saturday night and I'm all for diversity and inclusion, but Glouftis should not be umpiring at AFL level. She literally looks to one of the other umpires for affirmation before she makes any decision and three times Saturday night another umpire called a free for a play that she was controlling.

Does anyone know if umpires are being rotated? She didn't officiate in the last quarter.

I did note some games had 4 umpires named and some 3. I didnt take any notice after that, maybe the ones with 4 had a rotation thing going where they sat on the bench for a quarter?
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Re: AFL Round 2

Postby MatteeG » Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:08 pm

Spargo wrote:
Booney wrote:How did Burgoyne get off with just a fine?

Because Dangerfield wasn’t concussed/injured.
It’s ridiculous that it’s based on the outcome & not the action.


Correct. It's been this way for quite some time. Crap.
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Re: AFL Round 2

Postby MatteeG » Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:10 pm

Something else I noticed more this round was how 'matey' everyone is on the field.

I'm all for good sportsmanship, but gees I miss genuine dislike between teams.
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Re: AFL Round 2

Postby Spargo » Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:39 pm

MatteeG wrote:Something else I noticed more this round was how 'matey' everyone is on the field.

I'm all for good sportsmanship, but gees I miss genuine dislike between teams.

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AFL Round 2

Postby Jim05 » Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:40 pm

Spargo wrote:
MatteeG wrote:Something else I noticed more this round was how 'matey' everyone is on the field.

I'm all for good sportsmanship, but gees I miss genuine dislike between teams.

This^
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We probably paid for your flight up there that’s why ;)
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Re: AFL Round 2

Postby Booney » Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:48 pm

Oh, and Saturday night you got your beers in the cans not poured into cups, Furphy was $8.50 for a can.
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Re: AFL Round 2

Postby Spargo » Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:56 pm

Jim05 wrote:
Spargo wrote:
MatteeG wrote:Something else I noticed more this round was how 'matey' everyone is on the field.

I'm all for good sportsmanship, but gees I miss genuine dislike between teams.

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I nearly vomited in my beer when I saw how chummy we were with that lot we shared a plane with...
We probably paid for your flight up there that’s why ;)

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Re: AFL Round 2

Postby Bandit » Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:21 pm

Bum Crack wrote:
Booney wrote:How did Burgoyne get off with just a fine?

Yeah crazy. Mind you, Patrick would have probably got off too if it was the other way around.

Hawkins or Sicily would have got 3 weeks :D
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