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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby Spargo » Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:53 pm

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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby daysofourlives » Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:45 pm

stan wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:The ultimate showcase of political innumeracy is the quasi-religious ritual of The Reading of the Cases. Witnessed and recorded by the faithful in the media (who love to have their work handed to them on a plate), it has become a farce within this bigger farce. The sombre, priestly arch-buffoon blesses reporters with fodder for their blog updates, sprinkling them with numbers that look like information but withstand no scrutiny.

Cases, as a moment’s reflection reveals, do not equal sickness, much less hospitalisations. Until we are entrusted with the knowledge of how many are the results of tests on people who show no symptoms, they serve only to strike terror into the innumerate.

Indeed, why do we need to hear these figures at all? We don’t get daily updates for any other diseases. They serve no useful purpose, as we are not given sufficient detail to make our own assessment of their significance, decide on the level of risk they represent and tailor our activities accordingly.

Their primary purpose seems to be to post-rationalise our leaders’ devastating, simple-minded lockdowns and border closures, and to panic people into sporting their masks of obedience should they be sufficiently reckless as to leave their homes.


Perhaps the announcements, if they must continue, could give us real information: “There have been 637 new cases today, but happily 480 were young people who had no symptoms and didn’t know they’d been infected. Oh, and only two of today’s cases were serious enough to need to go to hospital.”

Yes why isnt there any positive spin on it? Why is it all doom and gloom.
Reports are becoming more common of aged care facilities getting 30k per covid recorded death and funeral costs covered if families agree to recording covid on death certificate.
Where is all the social media of people on their death beds from covid? You cant tell in this modern world that people are suffering quietly in hospital
One of the things you touch on is whybisnt there a positive spin on it.

Right that's a lot easier to answer than the entire topic you have pressed on. The media as you said feed on fear and sensationalism. That's there go to, it always has to be then it breaking story with more and more fear and more and more sensationalism.

The positive spin should be that Austrialia should be in a position to push the economy through this.

It also has shown the benefits of manufacturing in your own country.


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But its not the media that does Dan Andrews press conferences is it?
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby stan » Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:03 am

daysofourlives wrote:
stan wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:The ultimate showcase of political innumeracy is the quasi-religious ritual of The Reading of the Cases. Witnessed and recorded by the faithful in the media (who love to have their work handed to them on a plate), it has become a farce within this bigger farce. The sombre, priestly arch-buffoon blesses reporters with fodder for their blog updates, sprinkling them with numbers that look like information but withstand no scrutiny.

Cases, as a moment’s reflection reveals, do not equal sickness, much less hospitalisations. Until we are entrusted with the knowledge of how many are the results of tests on people who show no symptoms, they serve only to strike terror into the innumerate.

Indeed, why do we need to hear these figures at all? We don’t get daily updates for any other diseases. They serve no useful purpose, as we are not given sufficient detail to make our own assessment of their significance, decide on the level of risk they represent and tailor our activities accordingly.

Their primary purpose seems to be to post-rationalise our leaders’ devastating, simple-minded lockdowns and border closures, and to panic people into sporting their masks of obedience should they be sufficiently reckless as to leave their homes.


Perhaps the announcements, if they must continue, could give us real information: “There have been 637 new cases today, but happily 480 were young people who had no symptoms and didn’t know they’d been infected. Oh, and only two of today’s cases were serious enough to need to go to hospital.”

Yes why isnt there any positive spin on it? Why is it all doom and gloom.
Reports are becoming more common of aged care facilities getting 30k per covid recorded death and funeral costs covered if families agree to recording covid on death certificate.
Where is all the social media of people on their death beds from covid? You cant tell in this modern world that people are suffering quietly in hospital
One of the things you touch on is whybisnt there a positive spin on it.

Right that's a lot easier to answer than the entire topic you have pressed on. The media as you said feed on fear and sensationalism. That's there go to, it always has to be then it breaking story with more and more fear and more and more sensationalism.

The positive spin should be that Austrialia should be in a position to push the economy through this.

It also has shown the benefits of manufacturing in your own country.


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But its not the media that does Dan Andrews press conferences is it?
True, but I don't think his pressers are that bad in terms of fear mongering.

But in saying that, this is what all the premiers and governments etc etc are working to towards the one world solution, is that not what you said a few posts above?

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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby stan » Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:03 am

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Senor Moto Gadili wrote:Where are you getting this nonense about Aged Care organisatiins getting paid $25k or $30k for each resident that passes from Covid-19? Pure fiction.
Well hang on there, in its not concrete but talk back radio in Melbourne has ha .ca few callers about this.

Also a few articles popped up in the states about theses issues. Florida's "mistake" also pops up a bit.

May not be a complete wash story, but there is definitly a bit of fudging going on with a few figures at the moment


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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby Booney » Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:26 am

daysofourlives wrote:
Yes why isnt there any positive spin on it? Why is it all doom and gloom.
Reports are becoming more common of aged care facilities getting 30k per covid recorded death and funeral costs covered if families agree to recording covid on death certificate.
Where is all the social media of people on their death beds from covid? You cant tell in this modern world that people are suffering quietly in hospital


Where's the evidence of this, or.....are you the......oracle?
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby The Bedge » Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:56 am

Heard on the radio this morning the WHO have now said herd immunity may never be a possibilty.

Sigh.. I’m over this already.
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby LMA » Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:59 am

Booney wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:
Yes why isnt there any positive spin on it? Why is it all doom and gloom.
Reports are becoming more common of aged care facilities getting 30k per covid recorded death and funeral costs covered if families agree to recording covid on death certificate.
Where is all the social media of people on their death beds from covid? You cant tell in this modern world that people are suffering quietly in hospital


Where's the evidence of this, or.....are you the......oracle?


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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby cracka » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:09 am

Booney wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:
Yes why isnt there any positive spin on it? Why is it all doom and gloom.
Reports are becoming more common of aged care facilities getting 30k per covid recorded death and funeral costs covered if families agree to recording covid on death certificate.
Where is all the social media of people on their death beds from covid? You cant tell in this modern world that people are suffering quietly in hospital


Where's the evidence of this, or.....are you the......oracle?

Its all over Facebook mate so its gotta be true.
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby Booney » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:11 am

cracka wrote:
Booney wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:
Yes why isnt there any positive spin on it? Why is it all doom and gloom.
Reports are becoming more common of aged care facilities getting 30k per covid recorded death and funeral costs covered if families agree to recording covid on death certificate.
Where is all the social media of people on their death beds from covid? You cant tell in this modern world that people are suffering quietly in hospital


Where's the evidence of this, or.....are you the......oracle?

Its all over Facebook mate so its gotta be true.
P.S. you still think day drinking is ok for everyone :D


My views on that remain unchanged.
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby cracka » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:16 am

Booney wrote:
cracka wrote:
Booney wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:
Yes why isnt there any positive spin on it? Why is it all doom and gloom.
Reports are becoming more common of aged care facilities getting 30k per covid recorded death and funeral costs covered if families agree to recording covid on death certificate.
Where is all the social media of people on their death beds from covid? You cant tell in this modern world that people are suffering quietly in hospital


Where's the evidence of this, or.....are you the......oracle?

Its all over Facebook mate so its gotta be true.
P.S. you still think day drinking is ok for everyone :D


My views on that remain unchanged.

I'm just jealous of you guys who can have a sneaky few during the day.
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby stan » Wed Aug 19, 2020 11:31 am

The Bedge wrote:Heard on the radio this morning the WHO have now said herd immunity may never be a possibilty.

Sigh.. I’m over this already.
That's not what they said. They said with only 20% of people with Antibodies we are some way off and would take alot to get to that point and it doesn't look like we woild get there.

Not that it's not possible, we are just not heading in that direction.

But then he said, it wouldn't work lol so yeah kinda what you said hahaha.

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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby stan » Wed Aug 19, 2020 11:33 am

Talking about a Covid Vaccine, a current trial out of Oxford looking the goods with one from SA as well.

Some discussion about making it mandatory, now if that doesn't get the conspiracy theory juices flowing then I don't know what will.

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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby Brodlach » Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:12 pm

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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby whufc » Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:21 pm

stan wrote:Talking about a Covid Vaccine, a current trial out of Oxford looking the goods with one from SA as well.

Some discussion about making it mandatory, now if that doesn't get the conspiracy theory juices flowing then I don't know what will.

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I would be first in line for a covid vaccine but I do get some peoples concern around mandatory injections.

I think it is justified in the case of Covid but its not a far stretch of the imagination to see how such laws and governance could be dangerous in the wrong hands.
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby stan » Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:22 pm

whufc wrote:
stan wrote:Talking about a Covid Vaccine, a current trial out of Oxford looking the goods with one from SA as well.

Some discussion about making it mandatory, now if that doesn't get the conspiracy theory juices flowing then I don't know what will.

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I would be first in line for a covid vaccine but I do get some peoples concern around mandatory injections.

I think it is justified in the case of Covid but its not a far stretch of the imagination to see how such laws and governance could be dangerous in the wrong hands.
Like Bill Gates and Microchips?

I'm not even sure which fence I'm swing for at the moment.

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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby whufc » Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:35 pm

stan wrote:
whufc wrote:
stan wrote:Talking about a Covid Vaccine, a current trial out of Oxford looking the goods with one from SA as well.

Some discussion about making it mandatory, now if that doesn't get the conspiracy theory juices flowing then I don't know what will.

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I would be first in line for a covid vaccine but I do get some peoples concern around mandatory injections.

I think it is justified in the case of Covid but its not a far stretch of the imagination to see how such laws and governance could be dangerous in the wrong hands.
Like Bill Gates and Microchips?

I'm not even sure which fence I'm swing for at the moment.

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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby Booney » Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:44 pm

Prime Minister Scott Morrison says he expects a COVID-19 vaccine will be as “mandatory as you can possibly make it” for all Australians once it becomes available.
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby The Bedge » Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:49 pm

Booney wrote:Prime Minister Scott Morrison says he expects a COVID-19 vaccine will be as “mandatory as you can possibly make it” for all Australians once it becomes available.

I don't agree with this.. like all vaccines, I think it should be up to the individual whether they choose to get it or not.

If they don't want it, they run the risk of getting sick and/or dying - that's their decision.. but shouldn't be forced on people.
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby Arch44 » Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:05 pm

The Bedge wrote:
Booney wrote:Prime Minister Scott Morrison says he expects a COVID-19 vaccine will be as “mandatory as you can possibly make it” for all Australians once it becomes available.

I don't agree with this.. like all vaccines, I think it should be up to the individual whether they choose to get it or not.

If they don't want it, they run the risk of getting sick and/or dying - that's their decision.. but shouldn't be forced on people.


Is it risking further lock downs in the future because people wont get the vaccine?
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby The Bedge » Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:11 pm

Arch44 wrote:Is it risking further lock downs in the future because people wont get the vaccine?

But if there is a vaccine available, then shouldn't impact others if they use it or not?

Kind of like if you choose to speed in your car.. does that mean I should hand in my license coz someone else decides to do 100 in a 60 zone?

Those who want the vaccine will get it, those who don't well who cares.
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