AFL 2020 Season

[tigerpie]

Is Melbourne's list that good?

Or are they just a group of talented individuals playing for themselves.
I'm not understanding Goodwins comment about growing up as a club?

Maybe he's just not sending clear and consistent messages, therefore shit coach?

[Booney]

They've got the (rightfully) reputation that the club is more interested in the snow season and stock market fluctuations than they are winning premierships and it's hard to argue. Nothing of substance since 1964, not even an era of dominance like the Cats in the 90's without winning one.

After the 1964 flag they didn't play finals again until 1986 and since 1990 they've played in 10 finals series, 22 games for 12 wins in finals, 1 grand final ( 2000 loss to Essendon ).

[JK]

After the 1964 flag they didn't play finals again until 1986 and since 1990 they've played in 10 finals series, 22 games for 12 wins in finals, 1 grand final ( 2000 loss to Essendon ).

87' I think bud

[Booney]

After the 1964 flag they didn't play finals again until after 1986 and since 1990 they've played in 10 finals series, 22 games for 12 wins in finals, 1 grand final ( 2000 loss to Essendon ).

87' I think bud

Yeah, I know.

[Lightning McQueen]

MY PREDICTOR
Lions 56
Port 52
Geel 52
Rich 46
WCE 44
Saints 44
Coll 42
Dogs 40
GWS 36
Melb 32
Carl 32
Freo 28
Suns 26
Ess 26
Swans 20
Hawks 16
NM 12
Adel 8

Saints and Geelong probably take the biggest bows for exceeding expectations with 3 and 4 games in Melbourne respectively.
Lions and Port had obvious favourable draws to finish top 2, Ports first real test will be Collingwood in round 18 @ the GABBA, win that and then a GF is well and truly on the cards.
Collingwood and the Dogs are hard to be judged upon given the circumstances, both teams still have the window open IMO.
GWS flopped, something is wrong out there, you can't have that much talent and be so piss poor at times.
Carlton, Freo and the Suns would probably accept their win ratio's, they're all getting games into kids and going through the building process.
Carlton would have to be impressed with their close game record, five of their wins were 1,2,7,4 & 5 point margins, three of their losses were 1,3 & 9 point margins, they'll make the 8 next year if it's a proper season.
It's hard to work out who the biggest underachievers were, Essendon looked the goods early, we're never used of seeing Hawthorn struggle and North were 2-0 with a win on the road against the Giants.
Sydney probably a B-, 5 wins with a depleted squad, you'd take it but probably try and turn the - into a + before showing mum.
Adelaide were always gonna be poop, they saved a bit of grace last night.

[Wedgie]

MY PREDICTOR
Lions 56
Port 52
Geel 52
Rich 46
WCE 44
Saints 44
Coll 42
Dogs 40
GWS 36
Melb 32
Carl 32
Freo 28
Suns 26
Ess 26
Swans 20
Hawks 16
NM 12
Adel 8

Saints and Geelong probably take the biggest bows for exceeding expectations with 3 and 4 games in Melbourne respectively.
Lions and Port had obvious favourable draws to finish top 2, Ports first real test will be Collingwood in round 18 @ the GABBA, win that and then a GF is well and truly on the cards.
Collingwood and the Dogs are hard to be judged upon given the circumstances, both teams still have the window open IMO.
GWS flopped, something is wrong out there, you can't have that much talent and be so piss poor at times.
Carlton, Freo and the Suns would probably accept their win ratio's, they're all getting games into kids and going through the building process.
Carlton would have to be impressed with their close game record, five of their wins were 1,2,7,4 & 5 point margins, three of their losses were 1,3 & 9 point margins, they'll make the 8 next year if it's a proper season.
It's hard to work out who the biggest underachievers were, Essendon looked the goods early, we're never used of seeing Hawthorn struggle and North were 2-0 with a win on the road against the Giants.
Sydney probably a B-, 5 wins with a depleted squad, you'd take it but probably try and turn the - into a + before showing mum.
Adelaide were always gonna be poop, they saved a bit of grace last night.

You have Port catching up 14% on Geelong despite losing one more game?

[Wedgie]

Membership ladder is out:

1. West Coast Eagles — 100,776 (2019 tally: 90,445 | +10.3%)

2. Richmond — 100,420 (2019 tally: 103,358 | -0.3%)

3. Collingwood — 76,862 (2019 tally: 85,226 | -10.9%)

4. Hawthorn — 76,343 (2019 tally: 81,211 | -6.4%)

5. Carlton — 67,035 (2019 tally: 64,269 | +4.1%)

6. Essendon — 66,686 (2019 tally: 84,237 | -26.3%)

7. Geelong — 60,066 (2019 tally: 65,063 | -6.7%)

8. Adelaide — 54,891 (2019 tally: 64,437 | -17.4%)

9. Fremantle — 51,577 (2019 tally: 51,431 | +0.3% )

10. St Kilda — 48,588 (2019 tally: 43,038 | +11.4%)

11. Sydney Swans — 48,322 (2019 tally: 61,912 | -28.1%)

12. Port Adelaide — 46,820 (2019 tally: 51,951 | -11%)

13. Melbourne — 40,571 (2019 tally: 52,421 | -29.2%)

14. Western Bulldogs — 38,876 (2019 tally: 44,373 | -14.1%)

15. North Melbourne — 38,667 (2019 tally: 42,419 | -9.7%)

16. GWS Giants — 30,841 (2019 tally: 30,109 | +2.4%)

17. Brisbane Lions — 29,277 (2019 tally: 28,023 | +4.2%)

18. Gold Coast Suns — 16,236 (2019 tally: 13,649 | +15.9%)

TOTAL — 992,854 (2019 tally: 1,057,572)

[Lightning McQueen]

MY PREDICTOR
Lions 56
Port 52
Geel 52
Rich 46
WCE 44
Saints 44
Coll 42
Dogs 40
GWS 36
Melb 32
Carl 32
Freo 28
Suns 26
Ess 26
Swans 20
Hawks 16
NM 12
Adel 8

Saints and Geelong probably take the biggest bows for exceeding expectations with 3 and 4 games in Melbourne respectively.
Lions and Port had obvious favourable draws to finish top 2, Ports first real test will be Collingwood in round 18 @ the GABBA, win that and then a GF is well and truly on the cards.
Collingwood and the Dogs are hard to be judged upon given the circumstances, both teams still have the window open IMO.
GWS flopped, something is wrong out there, you can't have that much talent and be so piss poor at times.
Carlton, Freo and the Suns would probably accept their win ratio's, they're all getting games into kids and going through the building process.
Carlton would have to be impressed with their close game record, five of their wins were 1,2,7,4 & 5 point margins, three of their losses were 1,3 & 9 point margins, they'll make the 8 next year if it's a proper season.
It's hard to work out who the biggest underachievers were, Essendon looked the goods early, we're never used of seeing Hawthorn struggle and North were 2-0 with a win on the road against the Giants.
Sydney probably a B-, 5 wins with a depleted squad, you'd take it but probably try and turn the - into a + before showing mum.
Adelaide were always gonna be poop, they saved a bit of grace last night.

You have Port catching up 14% on Geelong despite losing one more game?

Na, swap them around.

[The Bedge]

You have Port catching up 14% on Geelong despite losing one more game?

Na, swap them around.

Richmond will defeat Geelong

[Lightning McQueen]

You have Port catching up 14% on Geelong despite losing one more game?

Na, swap them around.

Richmond will defeat Geelong

Lucky programming, to have potentially the game of the year when the footy has been less than ordinary lately is brilliant.

[Booney]

[DOC]

**** me said the fairy penguin.

This is a complete and utter disgrace. Almost as many staff as players and this number does not include the clubs. Note the employees in SA and WA. Zero.



Leaked documents reveal the full extent of the bloated bureaucracy inside the AFL
In 2003 the AFL employed around 100 staff members. That number then exploded to the point where staff numbers rivalled player numbers. For the first time, see the leaked documents that reveal the inner workings of the AFL empire.

AFL staff numbers exploded to a staggering 795 before last month’s cuts were announced, leaked internal documents reveal.

The Herald Sun can for the first time reveal the full scale of the AFL empire, which employs almost as many workers as the 18-team national competition has players.

A not-for-profit organisation that pays no tax, the AFL employed about 100 staff before the appointment of chief executive Andrew Demetriou in 2003.

A dossier detailing the body’s hierarchy has emerged as league chiefs begin slashing jobs because of the impact of the COVID-19 crisis.

The AFL has repeatedly refused to disclose how many staff it employs at its sprawling, two-storey Docklands headquarters and interstate outposts.

Not even club presidents are privy to the information.

But the documents obtained by the Herald Sun reveal there are 367 staff working in departments overseen by AFL general counsel Andrew Dillon, 116 under AFL Media boss Darren Birch, 100 for commercial boss Kylie Rogers and 93 in football operations run by Steven Hocking.

Birch will depart late next month under a plan to reduce the league workforce by about 20 per cent.

The leaked organisation charts reveal there are eight in-house lawyers, 42 staff in the AFL finance division, 26 in strategy and 10 in the integrity unit, including six ex-Victoria Police officers.

Another 104 are employed at AFL NSW, 88 at AFL Queensland, 40 at AFLNT and 29 at AFL Tasmania – the majority of which work with local and grassroots competitions in those states.

More than 400 work at AFL House in Melbourne.

The wages bill for the AFL bureaucracy topped $115.6 million last year – $10.56 million alone on chief executive Gillon McLachlan’s 11-person executive team.

Almost 80 per cent of the workforce was stood down in March and placed on the Federal Government-funded JobKeeper payments program.

THE AFL EMPIRE BY THE NUMBERS
States and game development - 338 (employees)

Growth, digital and audiences - 116

Commercial - 100

Football operations - 93

Clubs and finance - 42

Strategy - 26

HR - 23

Executives - 11

Integrity and security - 10

Corporate affairs - 9

Legal - 8

TPP - 5

Infrastructure, projects and investments - 4

Inclusion and social policy - 3

Health and safety - 3

Others - 4

Total staff - 795

The league says a skeleton AFL staffing team that continued to work after the COVID-19 crisis started had taken a minimum pay cut of 20 per cent.

The game’s 850 players have been hit with 50 per cent pay cuts, while the 18 clubs have been ordered to cut staff and save millions of dollars in costs.

An AFL spokesman said McLachlan had taken the same 50 per cent pay cut as the players this season, but the size of his salary remains a closely guarded secret because of an edict pushed through by AFL Commission chairman Richard Goyder.

His wage was last publicly disclosed at $1.74 million three years ago.

The AFL executive team – set to be marginally reduced – earned an average salary of $880,000 last year.

AFL staff are due to be notified about their futures next Tuesday and many roles made redundant from October 16.

The AFL stopped publishing its official staffing numbers in its annual report, filed with the Australian Securities and Investments Commission, several years ago.

It now boasts about a dozen in house departments, including the office of the chief executive, football operations, game development, legal and integrity, commercial operations, corporate affairs, finance and broadcasting, infrastructure, major projects and investment, inclusion and social policy, diversity, AFL Media, strategy and human resources.

[Booney]

795 f*cking people and none of them know what holding the ball looks like.

[Booney]

THE AFL's first night Grand Final will start at 6.30pm AEST (7.30pm AEDT).

The historic game at the Gabba is to be held on Saturday, October 24 and, due to the COVID-19 pandemic, will be the first time the Toyota AFL Grand Final is both held at night and outside of Victoria.

AFL executive general manager clubs and broadcasting Travis Auld said the 6.30pm bounce provided the industry with the greatest scope to maximise the advantages of the night timeslot.

LOCAL START TIMES BY STATE
AWST: 4.30pm – WA
ACST: 6pm – NT
AEST (local): 6.30pm – QLD
ACDT: 7pm - SA
AEDT: 7.30pm - VIC, NSW, TAS, ACT

[Lightning McQueen]

THE AFL's first night Grand Final will start at 6.30pm AEST (7.30pm AEDT).

The historic game at the Gabba is to be held on Saturday, October 24 and, due to the COVID-19 pandemic, will be the first time the Toyota AFL Grand Final is both held at night and outside of Victoria.

AFL executive general manager clubs and broadcasting Travis Auld said the 6.30pm bounce provided the industry with the greatest scope to maximise the advantages of the night timeslot.

LOCAL START TIMES BY STATE
AWST: 4.30pm – WA
ACST: 6pm – NT
AEST (local): 6.30pm – QLD
ACDT: 7pm - SA
AEDT: 7.30pm - VIC, NSW, TAS, ACT

Yuk!!!!

[Booney]

Cox Plate in the afternoon.

Grand Final starting at 7pm.

I can't wait to wake up on the Sunday and find out who won!

[mighty_tiger_79]

Cox plate, if history is to be repeated will be run at around 5.30pm (sa time)....

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[Spargo]

Cox Plate in the afternoon.

Grand Final starting at 7pm.

I can't wait to wake up on the Monday and find out who won!

EFA

[Booney]

Cox Plate in the afternoon.

Grand Final starting at 7pm.

I can't wait to wake up on the Monday and find out who won!

EFA

Depends who is playing.

[mighty_tiger_79]

Someone getting ahead of themselves[emoji3][emoji3]

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