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Re: 2020 Retirements and delistings / trade talk

Postby tigerpie » Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:12 pm

locky801 wrote:Bit of talk of Collingwood thinking of moving adam Treloar on however he is refusing to budge at this stage

Collingwood are not looking to move him on.

He's a contracted, required player.
It would have to be a very sweet deal for him to be traded.
Top 5 pick and a gun player required to get that done.

Neither Queensland team can afford that so he'll be a pie next year.
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Re: 2020 Retirements and delistings / trade talk

Postby stan » Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:01 pm

tigerpie wrote:
locky801 wrote:Bit of talk of Collingwood thinking of moving adam Treloar on however he is refusing to budge at this stage

Collingwood are not looking to move him on.

He's a contracted, required player.
It would have to be a very sweet deal for him to be traded.
Top 5 pick and a gun player required to get that done.

Neither Queensland team can afford that so he'll be a pie next year.
I would highly doubt that. He's a gun and in his prime.
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Re: 2020 Retirements and delistings / trade talk

Postby locky801 » Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:46 pm

stan wrote:
tigerpie wrote:
locky801 wrote:Bit of talk of Collingwood thinking of moving adam Treloar on however he is refusing to budge at this stage

Collingwood are not looking to move him on.

He's a contracted, required player.
It would have to be a very sweet deal for him to be traded.
Top 5 pick and a gun player required to get that done.

Neither Queensland team can afford that so he'll be a pie next year.
I would highly doubt that. He's a gun and in his prime.


Partial story from Tom Morris from Fox Footy earlier today

QUEENSLAND — Collingwood is on the brink of a precarious stand-off with Adam Treloar as the gun ball-winner is set to dig his heels in and force the club to show its hand.
Foxfooty.com.au understands Treloar’s conversations with the club since its ignominious finals exit have left the 27-year-old incredibly frustrated and convinced Collingwood wants him gone.

President Eddie McGuire said this week he was “confident” Treloar will be at the Pies in 2021, but behind the scenes Treloar is disillusioned with what he believes is the club‘s intention to offload his salary – which will spike in 2021 – to a rival club.
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Re: 2020 Retirements and delistings / trade talk

Postby DOC » Mon Oct 19, 2020 5:06 pm

Jeremy Cameron announces he wants to go to Geelong.
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Re: 2020 Retirements and delistings / trade talk

Postby Jim05 » Mon Oct 19, 2020 5:07 pm

DOC wrote:Jeremy Cameron announces he wants to go to Geelong.
Yep, very good pick up.
Don’t think FA is working the way the AFL planned though
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Re: 2020 Retirements and delistings / trade talk

Postby batmanbegins » Mon Oct 19, 2020 5:32 pm

locky801 wrote:
stan wrote:
tigerpie wrote:
locky801 wrote:Bit of talk of Collingwood thinking of moving adam Treloar on however he is refusing to budge at this stage

Collingwood are not looking to move him on.

He's a contracted, required player.
It would have to be a very sweet deal for him to be traded.
Top 5 pick and a gun player required to get that done.

Neither Queensland team can afford that so he'll be a pie next year.
I would highly doubt that. He's a gun and in his prime.


Partial story from Tom Morris from Fox Footy earlier today

QUEENSLAND — Collingwood is on the brink of a precarious stand-off with Adam Treloar as the gun ball-winner is set to dig his heels in and force the club to show its hand.
Foxfooty.com.au understands Treloar’s conversations with the club since its ignominious finals exit have left the 27-year-old incredibly frustrated and convinced Collingwood wants him gone.

President Eddie McGuire said this week he was “confident” Treloar will be at the Pies in 2021, but behind the scenes Treloar is disillusioned with what he believes is the club‘s intention to offload his salary – which will spike in 2021 – to a rival club.


Would you get rid of him to keep Degoey and Mihochek? Your salary cap is obviously tight and someone is going to leave. Treloar is obviously a jet but he's replaceable as most midfielders are bar the truly great ones. You could get something decent for him and keep everyone else.
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Re: 2020 Retirements and delistings / trade talk

Postby Pag » Mon Oct 19, 2020 8:49 pm

Treloar burns the footy so much. And with his wife and child being in QLD who’s to say he will all that comfortable with life, let alone footy, in 2021.

If there’s one with currency that I’d be moving on, it’d be him.
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Re: 2020 Retirements and delistings / trade talk

Postby Senor Moto Gadili » Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:06 pm

So, Geelong are going to pick up Jeremy Cameron, Shaun Higgins, Isaac Smith and Brad Crouch .... anyone else?
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Re: 2020 Retirements and delistings / trade talk

Postby Bum Crack » Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:09 pm

Senor Moto Gadili wrote:So, Geelong are going to pick up Jeremy Cameron, Shaun Higgins, Isaac Smith and Brad Crouch .... anyone else?

Na that will do.
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Re: 2020 Retirements and delistings / trade talk

Postby Booney » Tue Oct 20, 2020 6:35 am

Senor Moto Gadili wrote:So, Geelong are going to pick up Jeremy Cameron, Shaun Higgins, Isaac Smith and Brad Crouch .... anyone else?


They're going with the youth policy. Good move.
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Re: 2020 Retirements and delistings / trade talk

Postby Bandit » Tue Oct 20, 2020 8:32 am

Jim05 wrote:
DOC wrote:Jeremy Cameron announces he wants to go to Geelong.
Yep, very good pick up.
Don’t think FA is working the way the AFL planned though

The way the afl explained FA and the way its working are miles apart. Has any big name gone to a lower club?
Geelong seem to be benefitting more than most but i would much rather they focussed on giving younger players a go in front of players like j.steven, j.jenkins, and rumours like higgins & i.smith. Geelongs late 2000's success was built on the drafting during the early 2000's. All those 2001 players who turned into club legends were given a real go at an early stage. Yes if dangerfield or cameron are an option your taking them every day but pass on anyone who isnt a star. My 2c.
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Re: 2020 Retirements and delistings / trade talk

Postby Booney » Tue Oct 20, 2020 8:46 am

Franklin, Dangerfield, Ablett, Lynch, some of the biggest names are a mixed bag.

Franklin and Dangerfield sort of void, both went from clubs close to the top to clubs close to the top.

It's only really Ablett who left Geelong to the Gold Coast that's been a FA who has gone to a low club. Lynch and now Cameron have left soulless franchises to go to stronger traditional clubs.
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Re: 2020 Retirements and delistings / trade talk

Postby Mr Beefy » Tue Oct 20, 2020 8:47 am

Bandit wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
DOC wrote:Jeremy Cameron announces he wants to go to Geelong.
Yep, very good pick up.
Don’t think FA is working the way the AFL planned though

The way the afl explained FA and the way its working are miles apart. Has any big name gone to a lower club?
Geelong seem to be benefitting more than most but i would much rather they focussed on giving younger players a go in front of players like j.steven, j.jenkins, and rumours like higgins & i.smith. Geelongs late 2000's success was built on the drafting during the early 2000's. All those 2001 players who turned into club legends were given a real go at an early stage. Yes if dangerfield or cameron are an option your taking them every day but pass on anyone who isnt a star. My 2c.

In case you missed it, plenty of young blokes given games in front of j.steven, j.jenkins, and they were just about freebies.
Smith aint going to cats.
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Re: 2020 Retirements and delistings / trade talk

Postby Senor Moto Gadili » Tue Oct 20, 2020 8:48 am

Bandit wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
DOC wrote:Jeremy Cameron announces he wants to go to Geelong.
Yep, very good pick up.
Don’t think FA is working the way the AFL planned though

The way the afl explained FA and the way its working are miles apart. Has any big name gone to a lower club?
Geelong seem to be benefitting more than most but i would much rather they focussed on giving younger players a go in front of players like j.steven, j.jenkins, and rumours like higgins & i.smith. Geelongs late 2000's success was built on the drafting during the early 2000's. All those 2001 players who turned into club legends were given a real go at an early stage. Yes if dangerfield or cameron are an option your taking them every day but pass on anyone who isnt a star. My 2c.

Like Geelong, Hawthorn built a formidable squad on the back of draft picks (Hodge, Franklin, Roughy etc) Then, whilst they were in the premiership window they exploited Free Agency totop up their list. Geelong appear to be doing something similar. Works well for a few years, but at some stage you will lose a lot of stars around the same time and you end up having to do a rebuild like Hawks are having to do now. Can't blame clubs for going hard for success in the short term.
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Re: 2020 Retirements and delistings / trade talk

Postby Bandit » Tue Oct 20, 2020 8:56 am

^^^ geelong are playing in the gf so theyre clearly doing it right at tge top end of FA. I'd just prefer to see more of Narkle & less Steven this year and more of Simpson than Higgins (rumour) next year.
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Re: 2020 Retirements and delistings / trade talk

Postby MatteeG » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:38 am

Senor Moto Gadili wrote:Like Geelong, Hawthorn built a formidable squad on the back of draft picks (Hodge, Franklin, Roughy etc) Then, whilst they were in the premiership window they exploited Free Agency totop up their list.


Biggest furphy of all time. Hawks got 1 FA signing (Frawley), all others were trades.
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Re: 2020 Retirements and delistings / trade talk

Postby Wedgie » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:47 am

How many people have Geelong picked up with FA?
I thought they were pretty renown for making fair trades instead of relying on FA?
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Re: 2020 Retirements and delistings / trade talk

Postby Mr Beefy » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:49 am

Wedgie wrote:How many people have Geelong picked up with FA?
I thought they were pretty renown for making fair trades instead of relying on FA?

Only one free agent played on Saturday night for the cats - Luke Dahlhaus, rest were trades
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Re: 2020 Retirements and delistings / trade talk

Postby Senor Moto Gadili » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:50 am

MatteeG wrote:
Senor Moto Gadili wrote:Like Geelong, Hawthorn built a formidable squad on the back of draft picks (Hodge, Franklin, Roughy etc) Then, whilst they were in the premiership window they exploited Free Agency totop up their list.


Biggest furphy of all time. Hawks got 1 FA signing (Frawley), all others were trades.

Fair enough, but the bottom line is that they sacrificed draft picks for established players.
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Re: 2020 Retirements and delistings / trade talk

Postby Mr Beefy » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:53 am

Rhys Stanley - pick 21
Dangerfield - picks and steak knives
Henderson - 1st Rounder
Zac Tuohy - Smedts and picks
Ablett - picks
Stevens and Jenkins - a pick each
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