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Re: Australian International Summer 2020/21

Postby The Dark Knight » Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:55 pm

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amber_fluid wrote:
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Armchair expert wrote:Stoinis out might get a Cam Green debut

Perfect opportunity to give the kid a run and see what he’s got..... so they pick Moises, really?


I’m with you.
Get the kid in and see how he goes.
We already know what Moises offers......... very little.

He is having a good game, bowled well with lots of change of pace, faced one ball he had to get a two to keep Maxwell on strike, and is an excellent fielder and took a great catch to get rid of the danger man :D

Bowled well through the middle of India's innings and I thought he was the catalyst for the Aussies putting the clamps on the Indian run chase. His catch was a ripper and made even better because it was Kohli.

I know people don't like or rate him and/or think he's too old but he is a very solid all round cricketer. Like Finch said before today's match he played because he can bowl the overs the team needs him too at the moment and they believe Green can't just yet and they need/want the overs out of the medium pace all rounder. For anyone that bothers to read about or listen too what's going on with Cam Green Western Australia has wrapped him up in cotton wool bowling wise having only returned to bowling a month ago and now has the Australian set up. They didn't see him as a like for like replacement for Stoinis today, they obviously want him fit enough to bowl when they pick him. I want to see him play for Australia as much as anyone else and his time will come, see what happens with selection come Wednesday.
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Re: Australian International Summer 2020/21

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Nov 30, 2020 7:48 am

The Dark Knight wrote:Bowled well through the middle of India's innings and I thought he was the catalyst for the Aussies putting the clamps on the Indian run chase. His catch was a ripper and made even better because it was Kohli.

I know people don't like or rate him and/or think he's too old but he is a very solid all round cricketer. Like Finch said before today's match he played because he can bowl the overs the team needs him too at the moment and they believe Green can't just yet and they need/want the overs out of the medium pace all rounder. For anyone that bothers to read about or listen too what's going on with Cam Green Western Australia has wrapped him up in cotton wool bowling wise having only returned to bowling a month ago and now has the Australian set up. They didn't see him as a like for like replacement for Stoinis today, they obviously want him fit enough to bowl when they pick him. I want to see him play for Australia as much as anyone else and his time will come, see what happens with selection come Wednesday.


I think the unlove for Moises comes about that he has never really taken his opportunities by the throat, I've said before I liken him to Marcus North, does exceptionally well at domestic level but struggles on the big stage, he does seem like a cracking bloke by all reports, could be a part of why he is given a shot.

I'd still prefer to see Head given another crack, he failed as an opener and hopefully he's learnt from that, can bowl economically. But yeah, Green deserves the next spot.

I'm glad I was wrong about the Smith/Marnus inclusion, I guess it's redundant when Smudge is knocking up tonnes while striking at over 160.
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Re: Australian International Summer 2020/21

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Nov 30, 2020 7:50 am

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Jim05 wrote:Lab really doesn’t have a second gear does he


Yep struggles to clear the inner circle.
I think he stays while we are winning but will be the 1st to go if we get a bit of heat


It's just not his game, it's easy to strike at a run a ball while your mate is tearing them a new one.
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Re: Australian International Summer 2020/21

Postby Booney » Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:08 am

Not on FTA, couldn't give a shit.

I'm not paying to pump up the ego's of these already spoilt brats.
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Re: Australian International Summer 2020/21

Postby whufc » Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:09 am

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Jim05 wrote:Lab really doesn’t have a second gear does he


Yep struggles to clear the inner circle.
I think he stays while we are winning but will be the 1st to go if we get a bit of heat


It's just not his game, it's easy to strike at a run a ball while your mate is tearing them a new one.


Laba's value will come when we are 2/20 - 3/50 and he hits an 80 off 85 type innings which then sets up Maxwell, Stoinis, Carey for a late innings blast getting us to a competitive score.
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Re: Australian International Summer 2020/21

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:06 am

whufc wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:
Jim05 wrote:Lab really doesn’t have a second gear does he


Yep struggles to clear the inner circle.
I think he stays while we are winning but will be the 1st to go if we get a bit of heat


It's just not his game, it's easy to strike at a run a ball while your mate is tearing them a new one.


Laba's value will come when we are 2/20 - 3/50 and he hits an 80 off 85 type innings which then sets up Maxwell, Stoinis, Carey for a late innings blast getting us to a competitive score.

I don't see the point when we have Smith to "apparently" do that.
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Re: Australian International Summer 2020/21

Postby whufc » Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:09 am

I think we have a really good balance at the moment.

Warner- Aggressive
Finch- Aggressive
Smith- Anything you want
Laba- Conservative
Maxwell- Super Aggressive
Henriques/Stoinis- Aggressive
Carey- Combination
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Re: Australian International Summer 2020/21

Postby Trader » Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:31 am

So who do we think will come in for Warner now?

Carey to open and Green can come in as a bat only at 6 and Moises can bat 7 as the all-rounder?
Otherwise Wade comes in as the opening bat and everything else remains as is?

Not really any other bats in the squad and I don't see the need for another all-rounder like Abbott or Agar.
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Re: Australian International Summer 2020/21

Postby The Dark Knight » Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:41 am

Trader wrote:So who do we think will come in for Warner now?

Carey to open and Green can come in as a bat only at 6 and Moises can bat 7 as the all-rounder?
Otherwise Wade comes in as the opening bat and everything else remains as is?

Not really any other bats in the squad and I don't see the need for another all-rounder like Abbott or Agar.

Nathan Lyon said on commentary last night that he thinks it will be Wade, I'd consider Lyon somewhat of an inside word so he is possibly the one to replace Warner as opener.

I'm expecting Starc to be rested/dropped, Abbott would replace him and maybe Cummins might have a rest too now that the ODI series has been won and they might look at playing Agar or Sams if they want a left armer if Starc is rested.

Green may come in as a batsmen possibly resting Smith or Labuschagne?
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Re: Australian International Summer 2020/21

Postby Trader » Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:46 am

Yup all sound like logical moves.

Can you imagine the look on Smith's face when they tell him to have a rest.
But I've only just found my hands!!!
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Re: Australian International Summer 2020/21

Postby The Dark Knight » Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:57 am

Trader wrote:Yup all sound like logical moves.

Can you imagine the look on Smith's face when they tell him to have a rest.
But I've only just found my hands!!!

Haha, well he was almost not going to play yesterday, said in an interview that he had a case of vertigo in the morning and didn't know if he was going to play.
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Re: Australian International Summer 2020/21

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:09 am

Trader wrote:So who do we think will come in for Warner now?

Carey to open and Green can come in as a bat only at 6 and Moises can bat 7 as the all-rounder?
Otherwise Wade comes in as the opening bat and everything else remains as is?

Not really any other bats in the squad and I don't see the need for another all-rounder like Abbott or Agar.


As much as I'd like to see it be Carey, and it pains me to think this but it really has to Wade, he actually deserves it.
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Re: Australian International Summer 2020/21

Postby mal » Mon Nov 30, 2020 12:13 pm

I would select Travis Head to play as an opener
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Re: Australian International Summer 2020/21

Postby The Dark Knight » Mon Nov 30, 2020 12:26 pm

https://www.cricket.com.au/news/david-w ... 2020-11-30
David Warner pushing to recover from groin injury in time for Tests, with D'Arcy Short replacing him for Dettol T20s, while Pat Cummins to also sit out remaining white-ball games

David Warner and Pat Cummins will miss the rest of Australia's white-ball matches against India, while D'Arcy Short officially joined the T20 squad ahead of Wednesday's third Dettol ODI in Canberra.

Warner suffered a groin strain in Australia's 51-run win last night at the SCG and has returned home to begin his rehab in the hope to be fit for the first Vodafone Test from December 17.

There are no injury concerns for Cummins, who will rest ahead of the day-night clash at Adelaide Oval having played non-stop through Australia's UK tour in August-September, the Indian Premier League in the UAE and the first two ODIs back home.

Short comes into the T20 squad as a replacement for Warner but Cummins' spot in both ODI and T20 squads will not be filled.

"Pat and Davie are critical to our plans for the Test series," said coach Justin Langer.

"Davie will work through his injury rehab and in Pat's case it is important all of our players are managed well to keep them mentally and physically fit throughout what is a challenging summer.

"The priority for both is being fully prepared for one of the biggest and most important home Test series we have played in recent years, especially with World Test Championship points up for grabs."

Allrounder Marcus Stoinis suffered a side strain in the first ODI but will remain with the squad. It's understood he is unlikely to bowl but could potentially play as a specialist batter.
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Re: Australian International Summer 2020/21

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Nov 30, 2020 12:54 pm

The Dark Knight wrote:https://www.cricket.com.au/news/david-warner-groin-injury-odi-t20-tests-australia-india-darcy-short-pat-cummins-mitch-marsh/2020-11-30
David Warner pushing to recover from groin injury in time for Tests, with D'Arcy Short replacing him for Dettol T20s, while Pat Cummins to also sit out remaining white-ball games

David Warner and Pat Cummins will miss the rest of Australia's white-ball matches against India, while D'Arcy Short officially joined the T20 squad ahead of Wednesday's third Dettol ODI in Canberra.

Warner suffered a groin strain in Australia's 51-run win last night at the SCG and has returned home to begin his rehab in the hope to be fit for the first Vodafone Test from December 17.

There are no injury concerns for Cummins, who will rest ahead of the day-night clash at Adelaide Oval having played non-stop through Australia's UK tour in August-September, the Indian Premier League in the UAE and the first two ODIs back home.

Short comes into the T20 squad as a replacement for Warner but Cummins' spot in both ODI and T20 squads will not be filled.

"Pat and Davie are critical to our plans for the Test series," said coach Justin Langer.

"Davie will work through his injury rehab and in Pat's case it is important all of our players are managed well to keep them mentally and physically fit throughout what is a challenging summer.

"The priority for both is being fully prepared for one of the biggest and most important home Test series we have played in recent years, especially with World Test Championship points up for grabs."

Allrounder Marcus Stoinis suffered a side strain in the first ODI but will remain with the squad. It's understood he is unlikely to bowl but could potentially play as a specialist batter.

A non-scoring specialist batsmen.
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Re: Australian International Summer 2020/21

Postby The Dark Knight » Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:31 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
The Dark Knight wrote:https://www.cricket.com.au/news/david-warner-groin-injury-odi-t20-tests-australia-india-darcy-short-pat-cummins-mitch-marsh/2020-11-30
David Warner pushing to recover from groin injury in time for Tests, with D'Arcy Short replacing him for Dettol T20s, while Pat Cummins to also sit out remaining white-ball games

David Warner and Pat Cummins will miss the rest of Australia's white-ball matches against India, while D'Arcy Short officially joined the T20 squad ahead of Wednesday's third Dettol ODI in Canberra.

Warner suffered a groin strain in Australia's 51-run win last night at the SCG and has returned home to begin his rehab in the hope to be fit for the first Vodafone Test from December 17.

There are no injury concerns for Cummins, who will rest ahead of the day-night clash at Adelaide Oval having played non-stop through Australia's UK tour in August-September, the Indian Premier League in the UAE and the first two ODIs back home.

Short comes into the T20 squad as a replacement for Warner but Cummins' spot in both ODI and T20 squads will not be filled.

"Pat and Davie are critical to our plans for the Test series," said coach Justin Langer.

"Davie will work through his injury rehab and in Pat's case it is important all of our players are managed well to keep them mentally and physically fit throughout what is a challenging summer.

"The priority for both is being fully prepared for one of the biggest and most important home Test series we have played in recent years, especially with World Test Championship points up for grabs."

Allrounder Marcus Stoinis suffered a side strain in the first ODI but will remain with the squad. It's understood he is unlikely to bowl but could potentially play as a specialist batter.

A non-scoring specialist batsmen.

I deliberately added that paragraph to share it on here for the LOL's. #specialistbatsman
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Re: Australian International Summer 2020/21

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:57 pm

The Dark Knight wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:A non-scoring specialist batsmen.

I deliberately added that paragraph to share it on here for the LOL's. #specialistbatsman


I'm sure you nodded and had an inner laugh to yourself then,
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Re: Australian International Summer 2020/21

Postby Trader » Tue Dec 01, 2020 1:54 pm

Tickets sorted for the Adelaide Cricket, Level 2, Western Stand, Days 1, 2 and 4, can't complain too much I guess.

Interestingly they are suggesting SA Health might increase capacity. Is this just false hope or are they really going to try and shuffle everyone after they have already been allocated their tickets???
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Re: Australian International Summer 2020/21

Postby FlyingHigh » Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:04 pm

Trader wrote:Tickets sorted for the Adelaide Cricket, Level 2, Western Stand, Days 1, 2 and 4, can't complain too much I guess.

Interestingly they are suggesting SA Health might increase capacity. Is this just false hope or are they really going to try and shuffle everyone after they have already been allocated their tickets???


What time were you on there Trader? I was on 11-11.30 for the same days and was only offered outer seating.
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Re: Australian International Summer 2020/21

Postby The Dark Knight » Tue Dec 01, 2020 8:30 pm

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/198 ... per-league
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With Warner out, Australia could either swap in D'Arcy Short or Matthew Wade at the top of the order, or push Marnus Labuschagne up the order - he's volunteered for the role - and hand Cameron Green an ODI debut. Judging by Aaron Finch's pre-match words, the former option seems likelier. Sean Abbott, who has been in terrific form with ball and bat in the Sheffield Shield, looks set to replace Cummins and play his first ODI since 2014.

Australia (possible): 1 Aaron Finch (capt), 2 Matthew Wade/D'Arcy Short, 3 Steven Smith, 4 Marnus Labuschagne, 5 Moises Henriques, 6 Alex Carey (wk), 7 Glenn Maxwell, 8 Sean Abbott, 9 Mitchell Starc, 10 Adam Zampa, 11 Josh Hazlewood.


India could hand some of their fringe players a chance with the series already lost, but predicting their XI is never an easy task. Of those who haven't featured yet, Kuldeep Yadav and Shardul Thakur seem likeliest to get a game.

India (possible): 1 Mayank Agarwal, 2 Shikhar Dhawan/Shubman Gill, 3 Virat Kohli (capt), 4 Shreyas Iyer/Manish Pandey/Sanju Samson, 5 KL Rahul (wk), 6 Hardik Pandya, 7 Ravindra Jadeja, 8 Shardul Thakur/Navdeep Saini, 9 & 10 two from Mohammed Shami/Jasprit Bumrah/T Natarajan, 11 Yuzvendra Chahal/Kuldeep Yadav


Stats and trivia
Of all grounds to have hosted at least five ODIs in this century, the Manuka Oval has been the fastest-scoring, with an average ODI run rate of 6.36.

The last seven games here have all been won by the side batting first, six of them while defending 320-plus totals. The last four first-innings totals here, in chronological order, are 372 for 2, 411 for 4, 348 for 8, and 378 for 5.

India won't have happy memories from their last ODI in Canberra. They were 277 for 1 courtesy centuries from Shikhar Dhawan and Virat Kohli, and needed 72 from 75 to win. But Dhawan's wicket triggered an incredible collapse, the last nine wickets falling for 46 runs as Kane Richardson ran amok.

Kohli needs 23 runs to get to the 12,000 mark in ODIs. If he gets there on Wednesday, he will have reached the landmark in 242 innings. Sachin Tendulkar, the previous quickest to the mark, got there in 300 innings.

Mohammed Shami is two wickets away from 150 in ODIs.
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