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Re: A Graders

Postby Booney » Wed Feb 03, 2021 2:43 pm

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CHAMPION DATA’S ‘ELITE’ PLAYERS FOR 2021

Adelaide: None

Brisbane Lions: Daniel Rich, Harris Andrews, Lachie Neale, Jarryd Lyons, Hugh McCluggage

Carlton: Adam Saad, Zac Fisher, Sam Walsh

Collingwood: Jack Crisp, Jordan De Goey, Mason Cox, Steele Sidebottom, Brayden Maynard

Essendon: Jordan Ridley

Fremantle: Nat Fyfe

Geelong: Mark Blicavs, Tom Hawkins, Patrick Dangerfield, Sam Menegola

Gold Coast Suns: Sam Collins, Matt Rowell

GWS Giants: Harry Perryman

Hawthorn: Luke Breust, Chad Wingard, James Sicily, Ben McEvoy, Jack Gunston

Melbourne: Christian Petracca, Clayton Oliver, Max Gawn

North Melbourne: Todd Goldstein

Port Adelaide: Robbie Gray, Steven Motlop, Zak Butters, Charlie Dixon

Richmond: Nick Vlastuin, Shane Edwards, Dustin Martin

St Kilda: Dan Butler, Jack Steele

Sydney Swans: Jake Lloyd, Isaac Heeney, Dane Rampe

West Coast Eagles: Liam Ryan, Jeremy McGovern, Jack Darling, Oscar Allen, Nic Naitanui

Western Bulldogs: Caleb Daniel, Bailey Williams, Marcus Bontempelli, Josh Dunkley, Lachie Hunter

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Re: A Graders

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Feb 03, 2021 2:58 pm

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Re: A Graders

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Feb 03, 2021 3:00 pm

Booney wrote::shock:

CHAMPION DATA’S ‘ELITE’ PLAYERS FOR 2021

Adelaide: None

Brisbane Lions: Daniel Rich, Harris Andrews, Lachie Neale, Jarryd Lyons, Hugh McCluggage

Carlton: Adam Saad, Zac Fisher, Sam Walsh

Collingwood: Jack Crisp, Jordan De Goey, Mason Cox, Steele Sidebottom, Brayden Maynard

Essendon: Jordan Ridley

Fremantle: Nat Fyfe

Geelong: Mark Blicavs, Tom Hawkins, Patrick Dangerfield, Sam Menegola

Gold Coast Suns: Sam Collins, Matt Rowell

GWS Giants: Harry Perryman

Hawthorn: Luke Breust, Chad Wingard, James Sicily, Ben McEvoy, Jack Gunston

Melbourne: Christian Petracca, Clayton Oliver, Max Gawn

North Melbourne: Todd Goldstein

Port Adelaide: Robbie Gray, Steven Motlop, Zak Butters, Charlie Dixon

Richmond: Nick Vlastuin, Shane Edwards, Dustin Martin

St Kilda: Dan Butler, Jack Steele

Sydney Swans: Jake Lloyd, Isaac Heeney, Dane Rampe

West Coast Eagles: Liam Ryan, Jeremy McGovern, Jack Darling, Oscar Allen, Nic Naitanui

Western Bulldogs: Caleb Daniel, Bailey Williams, Marcus Bontempelli, Josh Dunkley, Lachie Hunter

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Re: A Graders

Postby tigerpie » Wed Feb 03, 2021 3:05 pm

Geez there's some weird names in that!
Who would you have Lachie Whitfield or Stephen Motlop.
Laughable.
Even Cox, he's not elite!
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Re: A Graders

Postby Bum Crack » Wed Feb 03, 2021 3:26 pm

I saw Motslop on the list and had to check the date. Thought it must be 1 April. Surely they are taking the piss??
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Re: A Graders

Postby Booney » Wed Feb 03, 2021 3:31 pm

Bum Crack wrote:I saw Motslop on the list and had to check the date. Thought it must be 1 April. Surely they are taking the piss??


I think they meant to spell it "Travis Boak" but wrote "Steven Motlop" by mistake.
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Re: A Graders

Postby Bum Crack » Wed Feb 03, 2021 3:33 pm

Booney wrote:
Bum Crack wrote:I saw Motslop on the list and had to check the date. Thought it must be 1 April. Surely they are taking the piss??


I think they meant to spell it "Travis Boak" but wrote "Steven Motlop" by mistake.

I think you might be right.
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Re: A Graders

Postby Failed Creation » Wed Feb 03, 2021 3:43 pm

Steven Motlop: The definition of 'downhill skier'.
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Re: A Graders

Postby Dutchy » Wed Feb 03, 2021 3:59 pm

Bum Crack wrote:I saw Motslop on the list and had to check the date. Thought it must be 1 April. Surely they are taking the piss??


Taking the piss or at least very much on it
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Re: A Graders

Postby beef » Wed Feb 03, 2021 7:09 pm

Maybe people will stop using stats to define good players.
Stats don't always equal performance.
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Re: A Graders

Postby Spargo » Wed Feb 03, 2021 7:20 pm

beef wrote:Maybe people will stop using stats to define good players.
Stats don't always equal performance.

Cripps, no mention?
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Re: A Graders

Postby beef » Wed Feb 03, 2021 8:59 pm

Spargo wrote:
beef wrote:Maybe people will stop using stats to define good players.
Stats don't always equal performance.

Cripps, no mention?

Not elite based on last year. Surprised to see Fisher in there.
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Re: A Graders

Postby Sharksta » Wed Feb 03, 2021 9:15 pm

beef wrote:
Spargo wrote:
beef wrote:Maybe people will stop using stats to define good players.
Stats don't always equal performance.

Cripps, no mention?

Not elite based on last year. Surprised to see Fisher in there.
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Re: A Graders

Postby stan » Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:21 am

This comes out every year and it's the same debate, because there are always players that are included that you scratch your head at.

I am starting to wonder if it's a piss take from champion data, they get on the piss the night before and put together this list just for the laughs.
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Re: A Graders

Postby RB » Thu Feb 04, 2021 7:36 am

Papley should be in there before the Swans players listed (Lloyd, Heeney, Rampe).
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Re: A Graders

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:03 am

Spargo wrote:
beef wrote:Maybe people will stop using stats to define good players.
Stats don't always equal performance.

Cripps, no mention?

C'mon, he goes alright but he's no Harry Perryman.
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Re: A Graders

Postby Rik E Boy » Thu Feb 04, 2021 12:18 pm

Failed Creation wrote:Steven Motlop: The definition of 'downhill skier'.


Unfortunately, Motlop played a pretty good game in that final against us last year. Cat fans unimpressed!

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Re: A Graders

Postby tigerpie » Thu Feb 04, 2021 1:13 pm

The bloke from champion data was on 5aa last night saying what the criteria was.
To be honest I glazed over during most of the interview but heard him say that the players were selected because they were elite in their position at their club?
So what!
Someone mentioned papley.
He had to be Sydney's best forward pocket surely?
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Re: A Graders

Postby MW » Thu Feb 04, 2021 1:16 pm

tigerpie wrote:The bloke from champion data was on 5aa last night saying what the criteria was.
To be honest I glazed over during most of the interview but heard him say that the players were selected because they were elite in their position at their club?
So what!
Someone mentioned papley.
He had to be Sydney's best forward pocket surely?


Just elite in their position in the comp not club.
So unless you're Fyfe, Dusty, Danger or Neale, you're not making the midfield mix
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Re: A Graders

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu Feb 04, 2021 1:27 pm

MW wrote:
tigerpie wrote:The bloke from champion data was on 5aa last night saying what the criteria was.
To be honest I glazed over during most of the interview but heard him say that the players were selected because they were elite in their position at their club?
So what!
Someone mentioned papley.
He had to be Sydney's best forward pocket surely?


Just elite in their position in the comp not club.
So unless you're Fyfe, Dusty, Danger or Neale, you're not making the midfield mix

Interchange bench must be considered a position then.
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