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Re: 2021 Player movements

Postby Hazydog » Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:47 pm

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Hazydog wrote:Apologies if I missed previous debate on this.. but is my memory correct that Luke Surman played with Norwood last season? If so was he a required player entering into this season, was he shown the door or did he “retire” and then lob up at Alberton?


Has battled with injury ever since returning from Hawthorn. Was absolutely in our plans for season 2021 but had his head turned. TBH I don't think his body allowed him to be considered reliable enough so I'm not too fussed (until he starts clunking against us).


So now we not only have an AFL team adding a player to their main list and acknowledging he will play SANFL only, we also have them able to poach a required player from an SANFL Club... it’s the gift that keeps giving isn’t it?
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Re: 2021 Player movements

Postby Booney » Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:51 pm

Hazydog wrote:
JK wrote:
Hazydog wrote:Apologies if I missed previous debate on this.. but is my memory correct that Luke Surman played with Norwood last season? If so was he a required player entering into this season, was he shown the door or did he “retire” and then lob up at Alberton?


Has battled with injury ever since returning from Hawthorn. Was absolutely in our plans for season 2021 but had his head turned. TBH I don't think his body allowed him to be considered reliable enough so I'm not too fussed (until he starts clunking against us).


So now we not only have an AFL team adding a player to their main list and acknowledging he will play SANFL only, we also have them able to poach a required player from an SANFL Club... it’s the gift that keeps giving isn’t it?


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Re: 2021 Player movements

Postby Jim05 » Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:56 pm

Booney wrote:
Hazydog wrote:
JK wrote:
Hazydog wrote:Apologies if I missed previous debate on this.. but is my memory correct that Luke Surman played with Norwood last season? If so was he a required player entering into this season, was he shown the door or did he “retire” and then lob up at Alberton?


Has battled with injury ever since returning from Hawthorn. Was absolutely in our plans for season 2021 but had his head turned. TBH I don't think his body allowed him to be considered reliable enough so I'm not too fussed (until he starts clunking against us).


So now we not only have an AFL team adding a player to their main list and acknowledging he will play SANFL only, we also have them able to poach a required player from an SANFL Club... it’s the gift that keeps giving isn’t it?


No gun held to his head.
Shouldn’t come to that though. No player who has been on a AFL or state league list for the last 2 years should be eligible for the AFL reserves. Marquee player should be scrapped aswell
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Re: 2021 Player movements

Postby Booney » Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:58 pm

Jim05 wrote:Shouldn’t come to that though. No player who has been on a AFL or state league list for the last 2 years should be eligible for the AFL reserves. Marquee player should be scrapped aswell


Oh please, he's played 5,3 and 10 matches at league level in the last 3 years, shit or get off the pan.
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Re: 2021 Player movements

Postby bulldogproud » Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:27 pm

Booney wrote:
Jim05 wrote:Shouldn’t come to that though. No player who has been on a AFL or state league list for the last 2 years should be eligible for the AFL reserves. Marquee player should be scrapped aswell


Oh please, he's played 5,3 and 10 matches at league level in the last 3 years, shit or get off the pan.


I am reasonably okay with Luke signing with Port. The one I do object to is Tyson Goldsack though. The AFL draft is solely for drafting players to play in the AFL. No club should be allowed to use one of their draft picks to simply have them play in a lower level of competition. If you are going to allow this, then, in fairness, every traditional SANFL club MUST be allowed to take part in the AFL draft and select the same number of players from it that Port or Adelaide draft simply for their SANFL teams.
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Re: 2021 Player movements

Postby Jim05 » Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:31 pm

Booney wrote:
Jim05 wrote:Shouldn’t come to that though. No player who has been on a AFL or state league list for the last 2 years should be eligible for the AFL reserves. Marquee player should be scrapped aswell


Oh please, he's played 5,3 and 10 matches at league level in the last 3 years, shit or get off the pan.
There is 7 other genuine SANFL clubs he could go to. AFL reserve sides shouldn’t be taking listed players
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Re: 2021 Player movements

Postby Booney » Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:38 pm

bulldogproud wrote:
Booney wrote:
Jim05 wrote:Shouldn’t come to that though. No player who has been on a AFL or state league list for the last 2 years should be eligible for the AFL reserves. Marquee player should be scrapped aswell


Oh please, he's played 5,3 and 10 matches at league level in the last 3 years, shit or get off the pan.


I am reasonably okay with Luke signing with Port. The one I do object to is Tyson Goldsack though. The AFL draft is solely for drafting players to play in the AFL. No club should be allowed to use one of their draft picks to simply have them play in a lower level of competition. If you are going to allow this, then, in fairness, every traditional SANFL club MUST be allowed to take part in the AFL draft and select the same number of players from it that Port or Adelaide draft simply for their SANFL teams.
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He wasn't drafted to play SANFL primarily, he was drafted to work his salary as a development coach out of the reduced "soft cap" ( off field cap ) and into the main cap ( on field ), the fact he can play SANFL is a bonus. Good, hey?

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Re: 2021 Player movements

Postby Booney » Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:39 pm

Jim05 wrote:
Booney wrote:
Jim05 wrote:Shouldn’t come to that though. No player who has been on a AFL or state league list for the last 2 years should be eligible for the AFL reserves. Marquee player should be scrapped aswell


Oh please, he's played 5,3 and 10 matches at league level in the last 3 years, shit or get off the pan.
There is 7 other genuine SANFL clubs he could go to. AFL reserve sides shouldn’t be taking listed players


You didn't play him, he looked for more opportunity, simple really.
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Re: 2021 Player movements

Postby Jim05 » Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:41 pm

Booney wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
Booney wrote:
Jim05 wrote:Shouldn’t come to that though. No player who has been on a AFL or state league list for the last 2 years should be eligible for the AFL reserves. Marquee player should be scrapped aswell


Oh please, he's played 5,3 and 10 matches at league level in the last 3 years, shit or get off the pan.
There is 7 other genuine SANFL clubs he could go to. AFL reserve sides shouldn’t be taking listed players


You didn't play him, he looked for more opportunity, simple really.
I still don’t believe the AFL clubs should get access to them. Either way let’s hope his time there is a failure
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Re: 2021 Player movements

Postby bulldogproud » Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:41 pm

Booney wrote:
bulldogproud wrote:
Booney wrote:
Jim05 wrote:Shouldn’t come to that though. No player who has been on a AFL or state league list for the last 2 years should be eligible for the AFL reserves. Marquee player should be scrapped aswell


Oh please, he's played 5,3 and 10 matches at league level in the last 3 years, shit or get off the pan.


I am reasonably okay with Luke signing with Port. The one I do object to is Tyson Goldsack though. The AFL draft is solely for drafting players to play in the AFL. No club should be allowed to use one of their draft picks to simply have them play in a lower level of competition. If you are going to allow this, then, in fairness, every traditional SANFL club MUST be allowed to take part in the AFL draft and select the same number of players from it that Port or Adelaide draft simply for their SANFL teams.
Cheers


He wasn't drafted to play SANFL primarily, he was drafted to work his salary as a development coach out of the reduced "soft cap" ( off field cap ) and into the main cap ( on field ), the fact he can play SANFL is a bonus. Good, hey?

:D


He, in my understanding, will still be the only AFL player ever drafted in an AFL draft for the purpose of not playing AFL - it really should not have been allowed to happen. Cheers
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Re: 2021 Player movements

Postby JK » Thu Feb 18, 2021 3:32 pm

Booney wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
Booney wrote:
Jim05 wrote:Shouldn’t come to that though. No player who has been on a AFL or state league list for the last 2 years should be eligible for the AFL reserves. Marquee player should be scrapped aswell


Oh please, he's played 5,3 and 10 matches at league level in the last 3 years, shit or get off the pan.
There is 7 other genuine SANFL clubs he could go to. AFL reserve sides shouldn’t be taking listed players


You didn't play him, he looked for more opportunity, simple really.


Sorry mate, but thats completely wrong. When he was fit and could string more than 3 games together he played league. Sadly his body didn't allow for that.
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Re: 2021 Player movements

Postby Hazydog » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:58 pm

Surmans abilities and opportunities are not the point here. It’s the fact it could be the thin edge of a fat wedge. We know that when it comes to Port playing in the SANFL alongside their AFL big brother they will unashamedly take liberties and find a way to get what they want regardless of any previous promise to “play to the line.”
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Re: 2021 Player movements

Postby TDJ44 » Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:44 pm

gazzamagoo wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:
whufc wrote:
gazzamagoo wrote:will pm you


Chuck us one as well


Is it a secret?

at this stage, yes. Nothing concrete yet.

Are we getting closer to any recruiting announcements.
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Re: 2021 Player movements

Postby goddy11 » Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:52 pm

TDJ44 wrote: quote]
Are we getting closer to any recruiting announcements.

https://cdfc.com.au/news/recruiting-upd ... ZYWUfmQLmU
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Re: 2021 Player movements

Postby southernbulldog » Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:17 pm

Already knew about these recruits i think TDJ was referring to a possible another couple that maybe coming although that is looking increasingly unlikely by the looks of it
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Re: 2021 Player movements

Postby MJP1993 » Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:45 am

Just saw this on Facebook Hunter is a saint now
I think that’s the fourth ruckman south have lost to the AFL
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Re: 2021 Player movements

Postby TDJ44 » Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:54 am

goddy11 wrote:
TDJ44 wrote: quote]
Are we getting closer to any recruiting announcements.

https://cdfc.com.au/news/recruiting-upd ... ZYWUfmQLmU

Old news...
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Re: 2021 Player movements

Postby Jim05 » Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:56 am

MJP1993 wrote:Just saw this on Facebook Hunter is a saint now
I think that’s the fourth ruckman south have lost to the AFL
Yep, done deal.
I doubt he plays a game for them and will just fill up their VFL side all year
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Re: 2021 Player movements

Postby goddy11 » Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:34 am

Jim05 wrote:
MJP1993 wrote:Just saw this on Facebook Hunter is a saint now
I think that’s the fourth ruckman south have lost to the AFL
Yep, done deal.
I doubt he plays a game for them and will just fill up their VFL side all year

He was a massively better player for SA than the AC. Makes you wonder if the AFL rigid structure of playing favourites in certain positions works better that the way SANFL clubs allow players to flourish . Mitch Grigg being an example of a player thriving when allowed to play his best position.
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Re: 2021 Player movements

Postby gazzamagoo » Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:32 pm

southernbulldog wrote:Already knew about these recruits i think TDJ was referring to a possible another couple that maybe coming although that is looking increasingly unlikely by the looks of it

Will know more after the bbq sunday night
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