Australian Domestic Cricket 2020-21

First Class Cricket Talk (International and State)

Re: Australian Domestic Cricket 2020-21

Postby whufc » Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:14 am

In a perfect world we would have a solid state level number 3 and our young guys would be able to come into the side at 5 and 6.

We don't have that luxury unfortunately. We need to identify who in the state is the best potential number 3 and then give them an extended run in that position regardless of results/performance. Chopping and changing that position will not work.

In the off season though SACA should make a class number 3 the highest priority so we can softly bring in the young guys. Once again in a dream world a person like Khawaja, Handscomb, Marsh would be perfect but none of them would come here.
RIP PH408 63notoutforever
User avatar
whufc
Coach
 
 
Posts: 27456
Joined: Tue Aug 01, 2006 10:56 am
Location: Blakeview
Has liked: 5566 times
Been liked: 2519 times
Grassroots Team: BSR

Re: Australian Domestic Cricket 2020-21

Postby amber_fluid » Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:01 am

whufc wrote:In a perfect world we would have a solid state level number 3 and our young guys would be able to come into the side at 5 and 6.

We don't have that luxury unfortunately. We need to identify who in the state is the best potential number 3 and then give them an extended run in that position regardless of results/performance. Chopping and changing that position will not work.

In the off season though SACA should make a class number 3 the highest priority so we can softly bring in the young guys. Once again in a dream world a person like Khawaja, Handscomb, Marsh would be perfect but none of them would come here.


No one is moving to Adelaide to play cricket at this level unfortunately.
Why would you?
There are no stupid questions, just stupid people.
User avatar
amber_fluid
Coach
 
 
Posts: 13323
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 10:18 am
Has liked: 2217 times
Been liked: 2508 times

Re: Australian Domestic Cricket 2020-21

Postby Dutchy » Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:02 am

amber_fluid wrote:
whufc wrote:In a perfect world we would have a solid state level number 3 and our young guys would be able to come into the side at 5 and 6.

We don't have that luxury unfortunately. We need to identify who in the state is the best potential number 3 and then give them an extended run in that position regardless of results/performance. Chopping and changing that position will not work.

In the off season though SACA should make a class number 3 the highest priority so we can softly bring in the young guys. Once again in a dream world a person like Khawaja, Handscomb, Marsh would be perfect but none of them would come here.


No one is moving to Adelaide to play cricket at this level unfortunately.
Why would you?


Yeah did nothing for Nathan Lyon or Adam Zampa
User avatar
Dutchy
Site Admin
 
 
Posts: 44458
Joined: Sat Nov 05, 2005 8:24 am
Location: Location, Location
Has liked: 2311 times
Been liked: 3484 times

Re: Australian Domestic Cricket 2020-21

Postby amber_fluid » Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:04 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
The Dark Knight wrote:
tigerpie wrote:Head, as captain should step up and demand to bat 3 and give the new bloke a chance to cement his spot in the top 6.
Poor leadership I think.
Perhaps batting three for Head is a mental thing and is something he doesn't feel like he could/doesn't want to do? Similar to Joe Root batting 4 instead of 3 for England.

Even though IMO 4 should be his spot for the type of player he is (aggressive strokemaker) I agree with you in the sense he should be batting 3 given he's obviously SA's best player.

But then if he fails we're screwed. We've got to build around our strengths.

Head likes to play his strokes, it works for him, we should be trying to protect him from the ball zipping around early.


Mate we’ve been screwed for 25 years.
What they’re doing isn’t working.

Surely your best batter bats at 3 regardless.
They can still be attacking batting at 3.
There are no stupid questions, just stupid people.
User avatar
amber_fluid
Coach
 
 
Posts: 13323
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 10:18 am
Has liked: 2217 times
Been liked: 2508 times

Re: Australian Domestic Cricket 2020-21

Postby amber_fluid » Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:05 am

Dutchy wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:
whufc wrote:In a perfect world we would have a solid state level number 3 and our young guys would be able to come into the side at 5 and 6.

We don't have that luxury unfortunately. We need to identify who in the state is the best potential number 3 and then give them an extended run in that position regardless of results/performance. Chopping and changing that position will not work.

In the off season though SACA should make a class number 3 the highest priority so we can softly bring in the young guys. Once again in a dream world a person like Khawaja, Handscomb, Marsh would be perfect but none of them would come here.


No one is moving to Adelaide to play cricket at this level unfortunately.
Why would you?


Yeah did nothing for Nathan Lyon or Adam Zampa


And where are they now?
Got higher honours and pissed off home
There are no stupid questions, just stupid people.
User avatar
amber_fluid
Coach
 
 
Posts: 13323
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 10:18 am
Has liked: 2217 times
Been liked: 2508 times

Re: Australian Domestic Cricket 2020-21

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:10 am

amber_fluid wrote:
whufc wrote:In a perfect world we would have a solid state level number 3 and our young guys would be able to come into the side at 5 and 6.

We don't have that luxury unfortunately. We need to identify who in the state is the best potential number 3 and then give them an extended run in that position regardless of results/performance. Chopping and changing that position will not work.

In the off season though SACA should make a class number 3 the highest priority so we can softly bring in the young guys. Once again in a dream world a person like Khawaja, Handscomb, Marsh would be perfect but none of them would come here.


No one is moving to Adelaide to play cricket at this level unfortunately.
Why would you?


At least you'd get to bat twice and field once every game.
HOGG SHIELD DIVISION V WINNER 2018.
User avatar
Lightning McQueen
Coach
 
Posts: 51289
Joined: Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:43 am
Location: Radiator Springs
Has liked: 4339 times
Been liked: 7902 times

Re: Australian Domestic Cricket 2020-21

Postby whufc » Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:15 am

amber_fluid wrote:
whufc wrote:In a perfect world we would have a solid state level number 3 and our young guys would be able to come into the side at 5 and 6.

We don't have that luxury unfortunately. We need to identify who in the state is the best potential number 3 and then give them an extended run in that position regardless of results/performance. Chopping and changing that position will not work.

In the off season though SACA should make a class number 3 the highest priority so we can softly bring in the young guys. Once again in a dream world a person like Khawaja, Handscomb, Marsh would be perfect but none of them would come here.


No one is moving to Adelaide to play cricket at this level unfortunately.
Why would you?


Would have to be big $$$$$$
RIP PH408 63notoutforever
User avatar
whufc
Coach
 
 
Posts: 27456
Joined: Tue Aug 01, 2006 10:56 am
Location: Blakeview
Has liked: 5566 times
Been liked: 2519 times
Grassroots Team: BSR

Re: Australian Domestic Cricket 2020-21

Postby tigerpie » Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:18 am

Ian chappell, Ricky ponting etc. were attacking batsmen at 3.
Head should follow in their footsteps.
tigerpie
Assistant Coach
 
 
Posts: 4113
Joined: Mon Mar 07, 2011 1:00 pm
Has liked: 498 times
Been liked: 429 times

Re: Australian Domestic Cricket 2020-21

Postby Armchair expert » Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:19 am

Is Renshaw coming?

He can bat 3
Dave Warner will be missed!
User avatar
Armchair expert
Coach
 
 
Posts: 10070
Joined: Tue May 15, 2018 9:18 am
Has liked: 379 times
Been liked: 1415 times
Grassroots Team: Ports

Re: Australian Domestic Cricket 2020-21

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:20 am

Armchair expert wrote:Is Renshaw coming?

He can bat 3
I read that he was coming here

Sent from my SM-G781B using Tapatalk
Matty Wade is a star and deserves more respect from the forum family!
User avatar
mighty_tiger_79
Coach
 
Posts: 56645
Joined: Tue Jan 03, 2006 7:29 pm
Location: at the TAB
Has liked: 11807 times
Been liked: 3583 times

Re: Australian Domestic Cricket 2020-21

Postby heater31 » Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:23 am

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:
Armchair expert wrote:Is Renshaw coming?

He can bat 3
I read that he was coming here

Sent from my SM-G781B using Tapatalk
Yeah for the Strikers [emoji6]


Glenn Maxwell still wants to play Test Cricket.....can he bat 3?
User avatar
heater31
Moderator
 
 
Posts: 16521
Joined: Thu Apr 27, 2006 2:42 am
Location: the back blocks
Has liked: 525 times
Been liked: 1259 times

Re: Australian Domestic Cricket 2020-21

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:24 am

amber_fluid wrote:
Mate we’ve been screwed for 25 years.
What they’re doing isn’t working.

Surely your best batter bats at 3 regardless.
They can still be attacking batting at 3.

I get what you're putting down, I'm just not in agreeance, I'm probably a bit old school still with the role of a number 3, number 3 should be a very stoic anchorman type character, a Boycott or Greg Chappell, can weather a storm and provide support for the stroke makers or dig in if one of the openers fail early.
As a captain I always had my best bat at number 4, I think most national sides have had the same view, we've had Smith, Clarke and Punter all at number 4 when they were at the peak of their careers.
HOGG SHIELD DIVISION V WINNER 2018.
User avatar
Lightning McQueen
Coach
 
Posts: 51289
Joined: Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:43 am
Location: Radiator Springs
Has liked: 4339 times
Been liked: 7902 times

Re: Australian Domestic Cricket 2020-21

Postby whufc » Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:26 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:
Mate we’ve been screwed for 25 years.
What they’re doing isn’t working.

Surely your best batter bats at 3 regardless.
They can still be attacking batting at 3.

I get what you're putting down, I'm just not in agreeance, I'm probably a bit old school still with the role of a number 3, number 3 should be a very stoic anchorman type character, a Boycott or Greg Chappell, can weather a storm and provide support for the stroke makers or dig in if one of the openers fail early.
As a captain I always had my best bat at number 4, I think most national sides have had the same view, we've had Smith, Clarke and Punter all at number 4 when they were at the peak of their careers.


Punter was a number 3 wasn't he????
RIP PH408 63notoutforever
User avatar
whufc
Coach
 
 
Posts: 27456
Joined: Tue Aug 01, 2006 10:56 am
Location: Blakeview
Has liked: 5566 times
Been liked: 2519 times
Grassroots Team: BSR

Re: Australian Domestic Cricket 2020-21

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:28 am

tigerpie wrote:Ian chappell, Ricky ponting etc. were attacking batsmen at 3.
Head should follow in their footsteps.

Ponting moved to 4 but still only struck at 62 overall (his average and strike rate both dropped as he moved to 4), Ian Chappell struck at 61, hardly belting them around.
HOGG SHIELD DIVISION V WINNER 2018.
User avatar
Lightning McQueen
Coach
 
Posts: 51289
Joined: Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:43 am
Location: Radiator Springs
Has liked: 4339 times
Been liked: 7902 times

Re: Australian Domestic Cricket 2020-21

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:32 am

whufc wrote:
Punter was a number 3 wasn't he????

For the majority, yes. He moved to #4 after a poor series at home against the poms in 2010. He only scored two tons after that, one was a 221 @ Adelaide vs India.
HOGG SHIELD DIVISION V WINNER 2018.
User avatar
Lightning McQueen
Coach
 
Posts: 51289
Joined: Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:43 am
Location: Radiator Springs
Has liked: 4339 times
Been liked: 7902 times

Re: Australian Domestic Cricket 2020-21

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:34 am

FWIW, I don't think I'm right, I do back whatever they must be thinking though because if Travis makes less than 50, we'll make less than 150, I would be doing all I could to eliminate that risk, maybe it's in his head?
HOGG SHIELD DIVISION V WINNER 2018.
User avatar
Lightning McQueen
Coach
 
Posts: 51289
Joined: Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:43 am
Location: Radiator Springs
Has liked: 4339 times
Been liked: 7902 times

Re: Australian Domestic Cricket 2020-21

Postby RB » Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:40 am

I've no problem with Head batting at 4 for SA - provided that they put someone appropriate at 3. That would generally be one of the more experienced bats. I wouldn't put a rookie at 3 unless they're a specialist opener (i.e. nothing necessarily wrong with playing 3 openers if they're in your 6 best batsmen available).
R.I.P. the SANFL 1877 - 2013
User avatar
RB
Coach
 
Posts: 5628
Joined: Fri Aug 26, 2011 3:45 pm
Has liked: 759 times
Been liked: 1073 times

Re: Australian Domestic Cricket 2020-21

Postby amber_fluid » Thu Mar 11, 2021 11:10 am

RB wrote:I've no problem with Head batting at 4 for SA - provided that they put someone appropriate at 3. That would generally be one of the more experienced bats. I wouldn't put a rookie at 3 unless they're a specialist opener (i.e. nothing necessarily wrong with playing 3 openers if they're in your 6 best batsmen available).


Who bats at 3 then?
We just don’t have anyone good enough.
There are no stupid questions, just stupid people.
User avatar
amber_fluid
Coach
 
 
Posts: 13323
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 10:18 am
Has liked: 2217 times
Been liked: 2508 times

Re: Australian Domestic Cricket 2020-21

Postby Dutchy » Fri Mar 12, 2021 9:44 am

Redbacks win the toss and bat at 9.30am in Autumn against a pretty decent bowling line up :roll:
User avatar
Dutchy
Site Admin
 
 
Posts: 44458
Joined: Sat Nov 05, 2005 8:24 am
Location: Location, Location
Has liked: 2311 times
Been liked: 3484 times

Re: Australian Domestic Cricket 2020-21

Postby Booney » Fri Mar 12, 2021 9:45 am

Weatherald run out for a diamond duck.

1/9
PAFC. Forever.

LOOK OUT, WE'RE COMING!
User avatar
Booney
Coach
 
 
Posts: 58214
Joined: Thu Oct 27, 2005 1:47 pm
Location: Alberton proud
Has liked: 7468 times
Been liked: 10755 times

PreviousNext

Board index   Other Sports  Cricket

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 10 guests

Around the place

Competitions   SANFL Official Site | Country Footy SA | Southern Football League | VFL Footy
Club Forums   Snouts Louts | The Roost | Redlegs Forum |