Great Southern Football League

[damian]

Mount Compass will receive no penalties for playing two players with incorrect point allocations or for breaching their player points allocation in matches.
Sam Haniford stays as a 1pt player, down from 2pts due to living locally.
Tom Dix approved as a 0pt player despite playing football elsewhere in 2018 and 2019.

Goolwa/Port Elliot Women’s have been stripped of their premiership points and score for from Saturday’s win over McLaren due to playing an unregistered player. The player in question played for the Magpies before moving to Aldinga and playing 2020 for them before joining South Adelaide for the SANFLW season. A clearance was applied for from Aldinga so South could clear her to GPEFC. The player jumped online and registered during the week - because she was able to register it meant there was no pending clearance. She played, Pies won. Turns out there was already two SportingPulse registrations for this player and she used the wrong one to register. Seems a legit mistake, some would say similar to Compass making a mistake by playing over their points allocation or playing players with incorrect points to their name.

The loss of points was appealed to no avail.

As an isolated incident, the GSFL got this decision right, rules are meant to be black and white. But for them to be super lenient with Compass for A Grade mistakes but to penalise a Women’s team who are in just their second year of competition and therefore more likely to make mistakes is ridiculous.

Go and **** ya self Kevin Curran & Terry Corcoran.

Da Da Damian sounds like you know a bit about this situation almost like you have inside information...
Did the female play under a different registration like a different surname ?
To be abusive could be detrimental to your club old mate so I suggest you build a Bridges and get over it

Inside info? More just common knowledge.

Mate if the muppets in charge of the League are going to penalise a club because someone commented that they should go and **** themselves then they’ll prove that they’re not fit to run the League.

[Cheap Seats]

The GSFL executive team have proven themselves in this instance, completely incompetent with these decisions. Not only have they spat the dummy and behaved like spoilt brats by not looking at evidence contradictory to the half baked excuses they were given in the first instances with regard to the Compass situation, they have refused to admit mistakes when the storyline is completely and clearly shown to be incorrect.

Also the fact that some of these decision have been made on a Friday night, without informing all other clubs (especially those who were playing against Compass the next day) of the outcomes of the poorly considered decision making, shows a complete disregard for the other clubs and the Rules by which the are supposed to apply.

FACT 1- Leagues have no means to reduce player points allocations other then schooling or educational reasons which is yet to be used outside of Old collegian clubs. They can only allocate additional points per club THIS HASNT HAPPENED. And the "living locally" reason by which this reduction was given does not exist.
FACT 2- The GSFL exec has no jurisdiction to change any result, based on a perceived fairness or equality reasoning which they did by altering a drawn match between Compass and Encounter Bay in 2020, giving Compass a loss but still handing EB a draw, the result of which was Compass points allocation went from 9 to 11 for the 2021 season
FACT 3- Thomas Dix is a 3 point player even using Compass own reasoning. Last game played before his first game in 2021 was only 22 months previous to that game, the rule they have supplied to argue this states 24 months, by which they are saying was the leagues mistake. However the rules associated with points allocation clearly state multiple times, that the club is responsible for proper and appropriate allocation of points and penalties will apply for incorrect allocation. Further more This is actually ignoring the proper way to adjudicate this rule which is clearly a seasonal rule, as is every other points rule in the Community Football Boards Rules and regulations. As posted before he played 18 league games in 2018 and 5 (officially) 4 (unoffically) in 2019 seasons for which the adjusted COVID points allocation is to be applied for any NEW PLAYER to a club for season 2021

That's an extra 6 points for a club that has finished top 3 most years since 2016.

[damian]

The GSFL executive team have proven themselves in this instance, completely incompetent with these decisions. Not only have they spat the dummy and behaved like spoilt brats by not looking at evidence contradictory to the half baked excuses they were given in the first instances with regard to the Compass situation, they have refused to admit mistakes when the storyline is completely and clearly shown to be incorrect.

Also the fact that some of these decision have been made on a Friday night, without informing all other clubs (especially those who were playing against Compass the next day) of the outcomes of the poorly considered decision making, shows a complete disregard for the other clubs and the Rules by which the are supposed to apply.

FACT 1- Leagues have no means to reduce player points allocations other then schooling or educational reasons which is yet to be used outside of Old collegian clubs. They can only allocate additional points per club THIS HASNT HAPPENED. And the "living locally" reason by which this reduction was given does not exist.
FACT 2- The GSFL exec has no jurisdiction to change any result, based on a perceived fairness or equality reasoning which they did by altering a drawn match between Compass and Encounter Bay in 2020, giving Compass a loss but still handing EB a draw, the result of which was Compass points allocation went from 9 to 11 for the 2021 season
FACT 3- Thomas Dix is a 3 point player even using Compass own reasoning. Last game played before his first game in 2021 was only 22 months previous to that game, the rule they have supplied to argue this states 24 months, by which they are saying was the leagues mistake. However the rules associated with points allocation clearly state multiple times, that the club is responsible for proper and appropriate allocation of points and penalties will apply for incorrect allocation. Further more This is actually ignoring the proper way to adjudicate this rule which is clearly a seasonal rule, as is every other points rule in the Community Football Boards Rules and regulations. As posted before he played 18 league games in 2018 and 5 (officially) 4 (unoffically) in 2019 seasons for which the adjusted COVID points allocation is to be applied for any NEW PLAYER to a club for season 2021

That's an extra 6 points for a club that has finished top 3 most years since 2016.

Stop talking so much sense, the Compass people will get upset.

[luv a kick]

The GSFL executive team have proven themselves in this instance, completely incompetent with these decisions. Not only have they spat the dummy and behaved like spoilt brats by not looking at evidence contradictory to the half baked excuses they were given in the first instances with regard to the Compass situation, they have refused to admit mistakes when the storyline is completely and clearly shown to be incorrect.

Also the fact that some of these decision have been made on a Friday night, without informing all other clubs (especially those who were playing against Compass the next day) of the outcomes of the poorly considered decision making, shows a complete disregard for the other clubs and the Rules by which the are supposed to apply.

FACT 1- Leagues have no means to reduce player points allocations other then schooling or educational reasons which is yet to be used outside of Old collegian clubs. They can only allocate additional points per club THIS HASNT HAPPENED. And the "living locally" reason by which this reduction was given does not exist.
FACT 2- The GSFL exec has no jurisdiction to change any result, based on a perceived fairness or equality reasoning which they did by altering a drawn match between Compass and Encounter Bay in 2020, giving Compass a loss but still handing EB a draw, the result of which was Compass points allocation went from 9 to 11 for the 2021 season
FACT 3- Thomas Dix is a 3 point player even using Compass own reasoning. Last game played before his first game in 2021 was only 22 months previous to that game, the rule they have supplied to argue this states 24 months, by which they are saying was the leagues mistake. However the rules associated with points allocation clearly state multiple times, that the club is responsible for proper and appropriate allocation of points and penalties will apply for incorrect allocation. Further more This is actually ignoring the proper way to adjudicate this rule which is clearly a seasonal rule, as is every other points rule in the Community Football Boards Rules and regulations. As posted before he played 18 league games in 2018 and 5 (officially) 4 (unoffically) in 2019 seasons for which the adjusted COVID points allocation is to be applied for any NEW PLAYER to a club for season 2021

That's an extra 6 points for a club that has finished top 3 most years since 2016.

Stop talking so much sense, the Compass people will get upset.

I don't think compass are upset big D if you look at the way this thread has gone over the last few months , the crap you guys have said we all know its YOU that is obviously upset
Cheap seat can you inform the rest of us about the Myponga situation with the facts or is that something we don't speak of... maybe you are the one that needs to build the Bridges or you could TEACH us all about the rules. I will say you are very Factual in 2022 you could run for the presidents job or are you just a keyboard warrior

[oldbomber]

His was just posted on great southern sports facebook page 1 hr ago.

MOUNT COMPASS IN THE CLEAR

The ongoing saga of possible breaches of the Player Points Allocation (PPA) by Mount Compass has been closed with the Bulldogs having no case to answer as decided by League executives on Monday night.

Prior to round one, Mount Compass applied to have a players points reduced by one due to them living and working locally. The League approved this prior to round one but did not notify any other Clubs of their decision.

Opposing Clubs became aware of the decision and met with the GSFL Executives to vote in favour of the players reduced point being reinstated.

At a later date, the League decided it would not reinstate the point as it is their decision, not that of Club Presidents. Issue one resolved, the player continues to play with a one point reduction.

It was also believed Mount Compass exceeded their PPA in round one of this season. It still shows on SportingPulse that they played with 12 points, exceeding their allocated 11.

They have no case to answer for this.

Finally, a player who, under current rules we believe should be a 3pt player has been approved as a 0pt player for Mount Compass.

In 2018 the player played 18 A Grade games for his old Club, the year after winning the Mail Medal and in 2019 feature in another five A Grade matches. The player did not play in 2020, however due to the Covid affected season, PPA’s are based on a players games played in 2018/19, not 2019/20.

We are unable to give you a reason why this has been approved.

Kudos to the Bulldogs, all they have done is ask the questions of the League, the GSFL are the ones who have approved the reductions. Happy days at the kennel!

It will be interesting to see if applications for adjustments to PPA are submitted more regularly to the GSFL Executives from now on or if the League applies the same leniency to all Clubs that breach their PPA in a game.

For now, Mount Compass are focused on going into the second half of the season with an 8-1 record as they face Yankalilla this Saturday at home.

[oldbomber]

^^^I dont beleive its incompetence any more now the GSFL has made a statement. For me the fact they dont explain how a 3 pt player is a zero reeks of absolute corruption. It has been stated in numerous posts as per the rules clubs are responsible for player points allocations and leagues do not have authority to change a players points allocation. The fact this has happened shows a clear breach by the league who to me is ultimately responsible for this cluster f#@% 100%.
I am satisfied mt. Compass have no case to answer at this stage however i dont think their team is playing within the rules of the game and should be punished after the GSFL is and needs to be investigated by the SANFL or CFL whoever it is and over ruled as they are blatantly disreguarding black and white rules to give one club an unfair advantage. It is so black and white its not so much incompetence but it must be corruption. They GSFL had their chance to explain and didnt! Says it all for me

[damian]

The GSFL executive team have proven themselves in this instance, completely incompetent with these decisions. Not only have they spat the dummy and behaved like spoilt brats by not looking at evidence contradictory to the half baked excuses they were given in the first instances with regard to the Compass situation, they have refused to admit mistakes when the storyline is completely and clearly shown to be incorrect.

Also the fact that some of these decision have been made on a Friday night, without informing all other clubs (especially those who were playing against Compass the next day) of the outcomes of the poorly considered decision making, shows a complete disregard for the other clubs and the Rules by which the are supposed to apply.

FACT 1- Leagues have no means to reduce player points allocations other then schooling or educational reasons which is yet to be used outside of Old collegian clubs. They can only allocate additional points per club THIS HASNT HAPPENED. And the "living locally" reason by which this reduction was given does not exist.
FACT 2- The GSFL exec has no jurisdiction to change any result, based on a perceived fairness or equality reasoning which they did by altering a drawn match between Compass and Encounter Bay in 2020, giving Compass a loss but still handing EB a draw, the result of which was Compass points allocation went from 9 to 11 for the 2021 season
FACT 3- Thomas Dix is a 3 point player even using Compass own reasoning. Last game played before his first game in 2021 was only 22 months previous to that game, the rule they have supplied to argue this states 24 months, by which they are saying was the leagues mistake. However the rules associated with points allocation clearly state multiple times, that the club is responsible for proper and appropriate allocation of points and penalties will apply for incorrect allocation. Further more This is actually ignoring the proper way to adjudicate this rule which is clearly a seasonal rule, as is every other points rule in the Community Football Boards Rules and regulations. As posted before he played 18 league games in 2018 and 5 (officially) 4 (unoffically) in 2019 seasons for which the adjusted COVID points allocation is to be applied for any NEW PLAYER to a club for season 2021

That's an extra 6 points for a club that has finished top 3 most years since 2016.

Stop talking so much sense, the Compass people will get upset.

I don't think compass are upset big D if you look at the way this thread has gone over the last few months , the crap you guys have said we all know its YOU that is obviously upset
Cheap seat can you inform the rest of us about the Myponga situation with the facts or is that something we don't speak of... maybe you are the one that needs to build the Bridges or you could TEACH us all about the rules. I will say you are very Factual in 2022 you could run for the presidents job or are you just a keyboard warrior

I’m not sure much crap has been posted on this forum, more so facts. I’m sure even a smart man like yourself can see that Mt Compass breached the PPA in round one with no penalty and have somehow had a 3pt player be approved to play as a 0pt player on top of a 2pt player being reduced to 1pt.

The next issue will be the salary cap, but if you can’t be penalised for a blatant points breach, I’m sure they won’t have enough evidence to prove a salary cap breach. How much is Porplyzia going to be playing for?

[bluebagger]

From FB:

The Yankalilla Football Club sadly announces that Lindsay Thomas has decided to step down as A grade coach due to family reasons. We thank Lindsay and Tony Burgess for their tireless efforts in their coaching roles. Lindsay will continue to play for the YFC when his body allows for it.

We congratulate Micka James on his appointment as our new A grade coach for the remainder of the 2021 season. For those of you who don't know Micka, he is a current A grade player and a Player Life Member of the YFC and will bring plenty of passion and expertise into the role. Micka will hand the coaching reins of the Senior Colts to Jesse Fitzgerald and Dennis Ker.

Can the situation with Burgess be explained.


Obviously an assistant coach.

Thomas quits for family reason yet Burgess not involved either

[LuvsFooty]

The forum is back in full flight!!!! Couple of fresh profiles causing havoc and picking up from where Grape Ape, BJ Ernest, Mr Teach, Words of Wisdom and the Little Master kicked off.

Our women’s side played a registered player on a second game day profile and not the one needing the transfer approved. Wasn’t a brand new profile to dodge the system, it was just a duplicate from when she played for the club last. Likely to be all sorted before the weekend

[Dutchy]

The news gets even better for Mount Compass supporters tonight as we believe that paperwork has been lodged for Jason Porplyzia to join the Bulldogs.
Jason played 130 games for Adelaide and kicked 181.
The Porpoise would be reunited with former Crows teammate Lewis Johnston and strengthen the Dogs already solid Premiership chances.
*Our understanding is Porplyzia would be a 0pt player.
Confirmation of this signing as soon as it comes to hand.

[Cheap Seats]

The news gets even better for Mount Compass supporters tonight as we believe that paperwork has been lodged for Jason Porplyzia to join the Bulldogs.
Jason played 130 games for Adelaide and kicked 181.
The Porpoise would be reunited with former Crows teammate Lewis Johnston and strengthen the Dogs already solid Premiership chances.
*Our understanding is Porplyzia would be a 0pt player.
Confirmation of this signing as soon as it comes to hand.

Jason Played league footy for West Adelaide 11 times in 2018, so don't be fooled by this 24 month rubbish that appears to being used.
If he is transferred as a zero pointer, then someone actually does not know what they are doing and clearly has not read through the rules in their entirety. This is exactly why Dix cannot be 0 points- Rules as follows:

Due to the abandonment of season 2020 by many Leagues impacted by COVID19 the following shall apply:
9.6.1. For season 2021 any club who actively participated in the 2020 season
will receive the usual -1 point discount for any player retained who was
also retained from the 2019 season to the 2020 season.
9.6.2. For season 2021 any player who transferred to a club prior to April 1st
,
2020 will receive the usual -1 point discount if they are retained for the
2021 season.
9.6.3. For season 2021 any player that played on a COVID-19 permit or
transferred clubs from April 1st, 2020 will retain their season 2020 player
rating and will not receive any additional discount.
9.6.4. For season 2021 any player from an abandoned club or league who did
not participate in season 2020 will retain their 2020, point rating for the
2021 season.
9.6.5. For any player transferring clubs in season 2021 or 2022 the following will
apply:
9.6.5.1. For season 2021 a players point rating shall be determined by the
balance of matches played in the 2018 and 2019 seasons.
9.6.5.2. For season 2022 a players point rating shall be determined by the
balance of matches played in the 2019 and 2021 seasons.

[Cheap Seats]

9.6.5.1 is very clear, especially for the Dix situation, even for the most die hard Mt Compass supporter "Luv a Kick"

[watchdog]

The news gets even better for Mount Compass supporters tonight as we believe that paperwork has been lodged for Jason Porplyzia to join the Bulldogs.
Jason played 130 games for Adelaide and kicked 181.
The Porpoise would be reunited with former Crows teammate Lewis Johnston and strengthen the Dogs already solid Premiership chances.
*Our understanding is Porplyzia would be a 0pt player.
Confirmation of this signing as soon as it comes to hand.

Jason Played league footy for West Adelaide 11 times in 2018, so don't be fooled by this 24 month rubbish that appears to being used.
If he is transferred as a zero pointer, then someone actually does not know what they are doing and clearly has not read through the rules in their entirety. This is exactly why Dix cannot be 0 points- Rules as follows:

Due to the abandonment of season 2020 by many Leagues impacted by COVID19 the following shall apply:
9.6.1. For season 2021 any club who actively participated in the 2020 season
will receive the usual -1 point discount for any player retained who was
also retained from the 2019 season to the 2020 season.
9.6.2. For season 2021 any player who transferred to a club prior to April 1st
,
2020 will receive the usual -1 point discount if they are retained for the
2021 season.
9.6.3. For season 2021 any player that played on a COVID-19 permit or
transferred clubs from April 1st, 2020 will retain their season 2020 player
rating and will not receive any additional discount.
9.6.4. For season 2021 any player from an abandoned club or league who did
not participate in season 2020 will retain their 2020, point rating for the
2021 season.
9.6.5. For any player transferring clubs in season 2021 or 2022 the following will
apply:
9.6.5.1. For season 2021 a players point rating shall be determined by the
balance of matches played in the 2018 and 2019 seasons.
9.6.5.2. For season 2022 a players point rating shall be determined by the
balance of matches played in the 2019 and 2021 seasons.

SANFL reps released a statement before season starting stating 24 month rule still applies to be eligible for 0 points, meaning if a player played in 2018 and did not play in 2019 and 2020 he would be automatically 0 points. Based on this Porplyzia is 0. This is from SANFL not GSFL

[Cheap Seats]

The news gets even better for Mount Compass supporters tonight as we believe that paperwork has been lodged for Jason Porplyzia to join the Bulldogs.
Jason played 130 games for Adelaide and kicked 181.
The Porpoise would be reunited with former Crows teammate Lewis Johnston and strengthen the Dogs already solid Premiership chances.
*Our understanding is Porplyzia would be a 0pt player.
Confirmation of this signing as soon as it comes to hand.

Jason Played league footy for West Adelaide 11 times in 2018, so don't be fooled by this 24 month rubbish that appears to being used.
If he is transferred as a zero pointer, then someone actually does not know what they are doing and clearly has not read through the rules in their entirety. This is exactly why Dix cannot be 0 points- Rules as follows:

Due to the abandonment of season 2020 by many Leagues impacted by COVID19 the following shall apply:
9.6.1. For season 2021 any club who actively participated in the 2020 season
will receive the usual -1 point discount for any player retained who was
also retained from the 2019 season to the 2020 season.
9.6.2. For season 2021 any player who transferred to a club prior to April 1st
,
2020 will receive the usual -1 point discount if they are retained for the
2021 season.
9.6.3. For season 2021 any player that played on a COVID-19 permit or
transferred clubs from April 1st, 2020 will retain their season 2020 player
rating and will not receive any additional discount.
9.6.4. For season 2021 any player from an abandoned club or league who did
not participate in season 2020 will retain their 2020, point rating for the
2021 season.
9.6.5. For any player transferring clubs in season 2021 or 2022 the following will
apply:
9.6.5.1. For season 2021 a players point rating shall be determined by the
balance of matches played in the 2018 and 2019 seasons.
9.6.5.2. For season 2022 a players point rating shall be determined by the
balance of matches played in the 2019 and 2021 seasons.

SANFL reps released a statement before season starting stating 24 month rule still applies to be eligible for 0 points, meaning if a player played in 2018 and did not play in 2019 and 2020 he would be automatically 0 points. Based on this Porplyzia is 0. This is from SANFL not GSFL

If that's the case then Porplyzia could be zero and I will happily stand corrected as it would be awesome to see him running around again as he was a favourite, but I don't know anything about that correspondence , however still does not explain the Dix decision who played in both 2018 and 2019 and at least the rules are on this site now for all to see and question the results of such adjudications.

[watchdog]

The news gets even better for Mount Compass supporters tonight as we believe that paperwork has been lodged for Jason Porplyzia to join the Bulldogs.
Jason played 130 games for Adelaide and kicked 181.
The Porpoise would be reunited with former Crows teammate Lewis Johnston and strengthen the Dogs already solid Premiership chances.
*Our understanding is Porplyzia would be a 0pt player.
Confirmation of this signing as soon as it comes to hand.

Jason Played league footy for West Adelaide 11 times in 2018, so don't be fooled by this 24 month rubbish that appears to being used.
If he is transferred as a zero pointer, then someone actually does not know what they are doing and clearly has not read through the rules in their entirety. This is exactly why Dix cannot be 0 points- Rules as follows:

Due to the abandonment of season 2020 by many Leagues impacted by COVID19 the following shall apply:
9.6.1. For season 2021 any club who actively participated in the 2020 season
will receive the usual -1 point discount for any player retained who was
also retained from the 2019 season to the 2020 season.
9.6.2. For season 2021 any player who transferred to a club prior to April 1st
,
2020 will receive the usual -1 point discount if they are retained for the
2021 season.
9.6.3. For season 2021 any player that played on a COVID-19 permit or
transferred clubs from April 1st, 2020 will retain their season 2020 player
rating and will not receive any additional discount.
9.6.4. For season 2021 any player from an abandoned club or league who did
not participate in season 2020 will retain their 2020, point rating for the
2021 season.
9.6.5. For any player transferring clubs in season 2021 or 2022 the following will
apply:
9.6.5.1. For season 2021 a players point rating shall be determined by the
balance of matches played in the 2018 and 2019 seasons.
9.6.5.2. For season 2022 a players point rating shall be determined by the
balance of matches played in the 2019 and 2021 seasons.

SANFL reps released a statement before season starting stating 24 month rule still applies to be eligible for 0 points, meaning if a player played in 2018 and did not play in 2019 and 2020 he would be automatically 0 points. Based on this Porplyzia is 0. This is from SANFL not GSFL

If that's the case the Porplyzia could be zero, but I don't know about that correspondence , but still does not explain the Dix decision who played in both 2018 and 2019

Dix last game in 2019 was in May from memory. Had he waited until end May / start June 2021 to play he would’ve also been 0 as he hadn’t played for 24 months.. However he played before this time and based on the APPS rules should’ve been allocated points. I struggle to understand how league officials in any league can override a players points, this opens up a can of worms. The APPS rules are pretty clear to understand and I can’t believe the SANFL would allow this to happen.

[damian]

The SANFL have been just as weak as the GSFL through all of this.

[scottroo]

Watchdog is correct

24 month rule still applies so if porps hasn’t played since June 2019 he’s a zero.

Dix at the very least should be 2 if we are giving him a points deduction for missing 2020

[mutton cove]

Do not bother to read the rules, as it appears to me that the President is the sole interpreter of the rules.

[oldbomber]

Do not bother to read the rules, as it appears to me that the President is the sole interpreter of the rules.

Due to the GSFL copping it massively mainly on facebook at the moment with all this and to make this whole situation even more laughable a mate told me players have been warned to watch what they say online as the league is trying to rapidly implement a use of social media bylaw that would potentially have people who post innapropriate comments or ones that show the GSFL leaders true colours with facts sent straight to the tribuneral. Lol

Club delegates need to remind theGSFL they are supposed to represent all of the clubs and have a duty to do so fairly with respect to the rules set by the SANFL and CFL. They have not done this and now need to be held accountable as they think they are bullet proof and can just break the rules to suit one club whenever they feel like it. Its time for club heirachy to go over the head of GSFL and demand a thorough investigation by the SANFL that gets to the bottom of this situation once and for all where results are made public and those responsible within GSFL are releived of their duties due to what appears to be an abuse of power. As they chose not to explain the Dix situation in oarticular there is more than enough facts and evidence to make a few personnel changes and get this ladder corrected with premiership points deducted in time for finals to still give Mt Compass a chance to legitimately contend for the premiership this year.

[Grape Ape]

The SANFL have been just as weak as the GSFL through all of this.

I'm pretty sure the SANFL are content to sit back and watch the GSFL self destruct so that they can parachute in one of their regional football operations coordinators to clean up the mess.

This is the moment they've been waiting for.