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Re: Carlton

Postby daysofourlives » Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:36 pm

CARLTON'S DRAFT HAULS ASSESSED
These are Carlton's National and Rookie draft selections since 2013.
2020
Corey Durdin?
Jack Carroll?
Luke Parks?
Too early to say.

2019
Brodie Kemp?
Sam Philp X
Sam Ramsay?
Jack Martin?
Josh Honey X
Fraser Phillips X

2018
Sam Walsh Gun
Liam StockerX
Finbar O'DwyerX
Ben SilvagniX
Hugh Goddard X
Tomas Bugg X

2017
Paddy Dow X
Lochie O'Brien X
Tom De Koning ?
Angus Schumacher X
Jarrod Garlett X
Cameron O'SheaX
Matt Shaw X

2016
Sam Petrevski-Seton ?
Zac Fisher ?
Harrison Macreadie X
Cameron PolsonX
Tom WilliamsonX
Pat KerrX
Kym LeBoisX
Alex SilvagniX
Andrew GallucciX

2015
Jacob Weitering Gun
Harry McKay Gun
Charlie Curnow Gun when right
David Cuningham?
Jack Silvagni? Not really
Jesse Glass-McCaskerX
Andrew GallucciX

2014
Blaine Boekhorst X
Dillon Viojo-RainbowX
Clem SmithX
Jayden FosterX
Jason TuttX
Billy GowersX
Bradley WalshX
Tom FieldsX
Fraser RussellX

2013
Patrick Cripps Gun
Cameron Giles X
Nicholas HolmanX
Edward Curnow Gun
Tom Bell X
Luke Reynolds X
Cameron WoodX
Blaine JohnsonX
Heath ScotlandGun
Ciaran SheehanX
Ciaran ByrneX


Since 2019 That is 40 out of 55 that are an absolute bust, 8 that are a win, 4 that a ? is very generous and the 3 question marks from 2019 are unlikely.
You wouldnt find a club with a worse recruiting record than that, id even venture to say no club would even come close to that sort of incompetence
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Re: Carlton

Postby amber_fluid » Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:51 pm

Ed Curnow is no gun.
Average at best.
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Re: Carlton

Postby daysofourlives » Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:54 pm

amber_fluid wrote:Ed Curnow is no gun.
Average at best.


Compared to the other 47, he's Craig Bradley
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Re: Carlton

Postby amber_fluid » Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:59 pm

daysofourlives wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:Ed Curnow is no gun.
Average at best.


Compared to the other 47, he's Craig Bradley


I would of moved him on 2-3 years ago.
His disposal is terrible.
He’s only still there so his brother don’t go elsewhere.
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Re: Carlton

Postby Armchair expert » Tue Jun 22, 2021 9:21 pm

Sam Philp will be a good player, definitely not a X, out for the year with injury

Honey will likely be a in this week for Betts
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Re: Carlton

Postby Senor Moto Gadili » Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:00 pm

Armchair expert wrote:Sam Philp will be a good player, definitely not a X, out for the year with injury

Honey will likely be a in this week for Betts

What's wrong with Eddie? Surely he plays against the Crows.
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Re: Carlton

Postby Armchair expert » Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:06 pm

Senor Moto Gadili wrote:
Armchair expert wrote:Sam Philp will be a good player, definitely not a X, out for the year with injury

Honey will likely be a in this week for Betts

What's wrong with Eddie? Surely he plays against the Crows.


He is cooked
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Re: Carlton

Postby LaughingKookaburra » Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:09 pm

Senor Moto Gadili wrote:
Armchair expert wrote:Sam Philp will be a good player, definitely not a X, out for the year with injury

Honey will likely be a in this week for Betts

What's wrong with Eddie? Surely he plays against the Crows.


He’s 34, incredibly inconsistent (because he’s 34) and literally hasn’t been able to kick 40 metres since 2018.
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Re: Carlton

Postby Dutchy » Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:03 pm

Development at Carlton has been very ordinary, recruiters can only bring talent to the club, what happens after that isn't their responsibility.

Barring Walsh who are the other kids that have developed into above average footballers in recent years?
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Re: Carlton

Postby stan » Wed Jun 23, 2021 12:01 am

Dutchy wrote:Development at Carlton has been very ordinary, recruiters can only bring talent to the club, what happens after that isn't their responsibility.

Barring Walsh who are the other kids that have developed into above average footballers in recent years?
McKay looks good. Took awhile Kirk big fellas do, but looks good.

Probably only other one is Cripps.

Walsh was a star when he was born, couldn't stuff that one up even if they tried.
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Re: Carlton

Postby Brodlach » Wed Jun 23, 2021 12:18 pm

Cripps, MacKay and Walsh would develop at any club, they just have natural skill. Carlton have nothing to do with their development
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Re: Carlton

Postby Armchair expert » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:10 pm

Development is a huge issue

Dow O'Brien looks to be a very costly bust

even guys like Fisher and SPS who Cartlon fans think are future guns don't do anything, I don't see it with either of them, I'd be happy to trade them.
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Re: Carlton

Postby MW » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:13 pm

Crows get criticised for not playing the kids quick enough...on the other hand I think Carlton play theirs too quick without earning a spot.
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Re: Carlton

Postby JK » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:23 pm

Dutchy wrote:Development at Carlton has been very ordinary, recruiters can only bring talent to the club, what happens after that isn't their responsibility.

Barring Walsh who are the other kids that have developed into above average footballers in recent years?


Reckon that Fogarty lad can be a player
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Re: Carlton

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:34 pm

JK wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Development at Carlton has been very ordinary, recruiters can only bring talent to the club, what happens after that isn't their responsibility.

Barring Walsh who are the other kids that have developed into above average footballers in recent years?


Reckon that Fogarty lad can be a player


I heard on the grapevine that he was born on the bayou.
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Re: Carlton

Postby JK » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:45 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
JK wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Development at Carlton has been very ordinary, recruiters can only bring talent to the club, what happens after that isn't their responsibility.

Barring Walsh who are the other kids that have developed into above average footballers in recent years?


Reckon that Fogarty lad can be a player


I heard on the grapevine that he was born on the bayou.


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Re: Carlton

Postby gadj1976 » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:06 pm

Brodlach wrote:Cripps, MacKay and Walsh would develop at any club, they just have natural skill. Carlton have nothing to do with their development


Definitely haven't developed McKay's kicking technique.
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Re: Carlton

Postby mots02 » Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:38 pm

Just imagine how bad this blokes back and shoulders will be after another 6 years carrying this mob.


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Re: Carlton

Postby Booney » Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:47 pm

6 years at 26 with a banged up body, my word player managers bend clubs over now, don't they?
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Re: Carlton

Postby mots02 » Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:52 pm

Booney wrote:6 years at 26 with a banged up body, my word player managers bend clubs over now, don't they?


The good news for him is that he can look forward to 2 years at Geelong when he finishes out this contract.
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