Adelaide

[Wedgie]

“Had to”?

Yes, had to, to try and help heal the process and put it to bed.
A lot of people wouldn't understand. It's very hard to explain to a non indigenous person.
Don't get me wrong, North Adelaide didn't force him to do anything in case that's what you were thinking, I certainly didn't mean for it to come across that way. North have been fantastic in their support of Robbie.
It's exhausting, I myself have given up the fight to a degree, it just wears you down after a while having to deal with certain sorts of people.

[tigerpie]

Robbie Young not playing footy this week due to personal reasons.

Strange seeing he played last week and knew all about it, hopefully he is ok

He struggled big time last week. And then had to front up for Walker's propoganda video this week.
Not easy.

Dragged kicking and screaming was he?
If you think a heartfelt apology is a propaganda exercise that's on you.
Come on wedgie don't lower yourself to the "he should be publicly horsewhipped" crowd. You're bigger than that.

[Wedgie]

Robbie Young not playing footy this week due to personal reasons.

Strange seeing he played last week and knew all about it, hopefully he is ok

He struggled big time last week. And then had to front up for Walker's propoganda video this week.
Not easy.

Dragged kicking and screaming was he?
If you think a heartfelt apology is a propaganda exercise that's on you.
Come on wedgie don't lower yourself to the "he should be publicly horsewhipped" crowd. You're bigger than that.

If that's what you got out of my post then I feel sorry for you. Like Eddie Betts I'm exhausted by the battle too and I'm out. You can't fix racism and ignorance, we shouldn't have bothered or tried. Good luck to you.

[Dutchy]

Another case of damned if you do, damned if you don’t. Keep older players on the list and the club is looking forward, not offer contracts and the club is not doing enough for the champions

It just seems to me that they are cutting back a bit too much, really important to have leadership while you grow your kids, look how Brisbane have done it. To their credit at least they are giving these guys plenty of notice so they can go out into the market for a new club.

[Brodlach]

“Had to”?

Yes, had to, to try and help heal the process and put it to bed.
A lot of people wouldn't understand. It's very hard to explain to a non indigenous person.
Don't get me wrong, North Adelaide didn't force him to do anything in case that's what you were thinking, I certainly didn't mean for it to come across that way. North have been fantastic in their support of Robbie.
It's exhausting, I myself have given up the fight to a degree, it just wears you down after a while having to deal with certain sorts of people.

I did take it as he was told to do it which is why I asked. I’d hate for him to be forced to do it.

Hope he is going ok and glad that North are supporting him well.

[Brodlach]

Robbie Young not playing footy this week due to personal reasons.

Strange seeing he played last week and knew all about it, hopefully he is ok

He struggled big time last week. And then had to front up for Walker's propoganda video this week.
Not easy.

Dragged kicking and screaming was he?
If you think a heartfelt apology is a propaganda exercise that's on you.
Come on wedgie don't lower yourself to the "he should be publicly horsewhipped" crowd. You're bigger than that.

Think you’ve gone down the wrong tangent tigerpie

[tigerpie]

Wedgie I'm pissed off that there are still racist people in this country, like most decent people.
Your post was inflammatory and that's exactly what we don't need.
That's just my opinion, others might not think so.
To think that Betts and Pickett were racially abused on the weekend just boils my blood.

[The_Rampaging_Bull]

In my opinion, to change culture of racism, first you must change the mindset of a racist society.
i'm afraid that words don't change the culture but actions do.
yes, we need to speak up when there is racism, but we also need to change peoples thoughts that when they are speaking to someone, that don't react with words purely on the physical aspect of the other person. We as a society should never think of colour, disability, or appearance as the first thing we use as vocabulary.
What should the actions be, I'm not sure at this stage, however, if we don't take action every time there's a racist comment than all we are doing is talking, and talking doesn't stop the problem in the end.
I'm not of an indigenous background, however i have friends who are, and every time i hear racism towards them and or about them, it really pisses me off. And in my eyes is totally unacceptable what so ever!
My wife and i have already sat down with our kids to discuss what racism is and how it affects others and how its a non negotiable in our family to not be a racist towards any culture or race but to embrace anyone and every one based on the person alone, regardless of their background.
I feel the AFL and the Crows should have taken a stance when they had the chance and terminated Tex contract. Whether the fans totally agree or not, this would have set a precedent moving forward, stating, it doesn't matter who you are we don't tolerate racism full stop.

[MW]

Are there any players from the Collingwood squad left over who systematically called Lumumba 'chimp'? They got off lightly didnt they.

[The_Rampaging_Bull]

The problem with words is that it sends a message that its OK to say these comments, when its clearly not.
i know that this argument might be a stupid comparison due to the variables, however, the AFL and ASADA were quick to suspend Willie Roili for 2 years for smoking weed, but the AFL gives Tex 6 weeks suspension for racism?
Tell me which offence has a greater impact on society?

[MW]

The problem with words is that it sends a message that its OK to say these comments, when its clearly not.
i know that this argument might be a stupid comparison due to the variables, however, the AFL and ASADA were quick to suspend Willie Roili for 2 years for smoking weed, but the AFL gives Tex 6 weeks suspension for racism?
Tell me which offence has a greater impact on society?

Willie got 2 years for falsifying a sample not smoking weed.
How can you go comparing drug use to racism...seriously.

[The_Rampaging_Bull]

The suspension co en sided with his positive test for cannabis after the elimination final win over the bombers in 2019 as well as tampering with his test sample. Both lead to the suspension.
As i said, there were many variables to the suspension, but in the end of the day, the punishment was greater than what Tex got with his racist comment.
My question was, which action has a greater impact on society? racism or weed/ sample tampering?

[stan]

The problem with words is that it sends a message that its OK to say these comments, when its clearly not.
i know that this argument might be a stupid comparison due to the variables, however, the AFL and ASADA were quick to suspend Willie Roili for 2 years for smoking weed, but the AFL gives Tex 6 weeks suspension for racism?
Tell me which offence has a greater impact on society?

Willie got 2 years for falsifying a sample not smoking weed.
How can you go comparing drug use to racism...seriously.

That was pretty odd right there. Got the 2 years for putting Gatorade in his sample.

Would of got less for the dope.

Hardly comparable.

[MW]

The suspension co en sided with his positive test for cannabis after the elimination final win over the bombers in 2019 as well as tampering with his test sample. Both lead to the suspension.
As i said, there were many variables to the suspension, but in the end of the day, the punishment was greater than what Tex got with his racist comment.
My question was, which action has a greater impact on society? racism or weed/ sample tampering?

Thats a question that has no correct answer

[Bum Crack]

The problem with words is that it sends a message that its OK to say these comments, when its clearly not.
i know that this argument might be a stupid comparison due to the variables, however, the AFL and ASADA were quick to suspend Willie Roili for 2 years for smoking weed, but the AFL gives Tex 6 weeks suspension for racism?
Tell me which offence has a greater impact on society?

Willie got 2 years for falsifying a sample not smoking weed.
How can you go comparing drug use to racism...seriously.

That was pretty odd right there. Got the 2 years for putting Gatorade in his sample.

Would of got less for the dope.

Hardly comparable.

Got two years for being a dopey prick lol.

[tigerpie]

Are there any players from the Collingwood squad left over who systematically called Lumumba 'chimp'? They got off lightly didnt they.

He got called chimp for his agility and long arms not because he is black.
Everyone draws the conclusion that it was cause he was black.
Its easy to draw that conclusion yes, and we now know better.
Spider Everitt, should he be pissed off too?
We had an Indian bloke in our junior cricket team we called panther cause he was brilliant in the field, and pounced on everything.
What I'm saying is there are contexts that need to be considered, before the unknowing, draw out the race card.

[Jim05]

Are there any players from the Collingwood squad left over who systematically called Lumumba 'chimp'? They got off lightly didnt they.

He got called chimp for his agility and long arms not because he is black.
Everyone draws the conclusion that it was cause he was black.
Its easy to draw that conclusion yes, and we now know better.
Spider Everitt, should he be pissed off too?
We had an Indian bloke in our junior cricket team we called panther cause he was brilliant in the field, and pounced on everything.
What I'm saying is there are contexts that need to be considered, before the unknowing, draw out the race card.

Lol, despite him hating the name and himself and others continually calling it out they still did it. Not shocked with a racist President running the show though

[MW]

Are there any players from the Collingwood squad left over who systematically called Lumumba 'chimp'? They got off lightly didnt they.

He got called chimp for his agility and long arms not because he is black.
Everyone draws the conclusion that it was cause he was black.
Its easy to draw that conclusion yes, and we now know better.
Spider Everitt, should he be pissed off too?
We had an Indian bloke in our junior cricket team we called panther cause he was brilliant in the field, and pounced on everything.
What I'm saying is there are contexts that need to be considered, before the unknowing, draw out the race card.

Ah yes, of course. in the space of 10 years we accepted it vs ban and ostracise someone for life. That's right.

[Bum Crack]

Are there any players from the Collingwood squad left over who systematically called Lumumba 'chimp'? They got off lightly didnt they.

He got called chimp for his agility and long arms not because he is black.
Everyone draws the conclusion that it was cause he was black.
Its easy to draw that conclusion yes, and we now know better.
Spider Everitt, should he be pissed off too?
We had an Indian bloke in our junior cricket team we called panther cause he was brilliant in the field, and pounced on everything.
What I'm saying is there are contexts that need to be considered, before the unknowing, draw out the race card.

Ah yes, of course. in the space of 10 years we accepted it vs ban and ostracise someone for life. That's right.

A lot can happen in 10 years. I tell you what though, if they start giving out life bans, it'll soon stop. That goes for players and supporters alike.

[tigerpie]

Are there any players from the Collingwood squad left over who systematically called Lumumba 'chimp'? They got off lightly didnt they.

He got called chimp for his agility and long arms not because he is black.
Everyone draws the conclusion that it was cause he was black.
Its easy to draw that conclusion yes, and we now know better.
Spider Everitt, should he be pissed off too?
We had an Indian bloke in our junior cricket team we called panther cause he was brilliant in the field, and pounced on everything.
What I'm saying is there are contexts that need to be considered, before the unknowing, draw out the race card.

Ah yes, of course. in the space of 10 years we accepted it vs ban and ostracise someone for life. That's right.

He took it as a compliment, then had an "experience" and decided it wasn't complimentary, it was racist.