Coronavirus (Covid19)

[Trader]

Interesting to hear that of the 113 people in ICU in NSW, 98 of them haven't been vaccinated. One has had both shots and 14 have had one shot.

Headline: Only 13.3% of people in ICU had been vaccinated (1 or 2 shots), the vaccine works!

Analysis:
Generally people in ICU caught covid some time ago (you don't catch it and then end up in ICU tomorrow).
I have no idea how long it takes for the average person to deteriorate to the point they end up in ICU, but a guess of a month seems reasonable?
Then assume the average stay in ICU is another month?

Means on average, those currently in ICU caught it 6 weeks ago.

6 weeks ago, NSW had issued 45% of the jabs they currently have (2.7m vs 6.0m).
Australia currently has vaccinated (one or more doses) 11m out of 25.4m, 43.3%.
So rewinding that 6 weeks you get 19% (45% of 43.3%) of people had a jab in their arm.

Well 19% is still higher than 13.3%, so the vaccine works.

Yes, but look at those people who were early to get the jab, generally they are the people that care more about the virus. They wear masks more than those that don't care, they sanitise their hands more regularly, they try and keep 1.5m more often than others, they generally try and limit their exposure. These behaviours are having an impact. How much? Perhaps a third? Taking 1/3 off of 19% and you get 12.7%.

Summary: So 13.3% of people who were jabbed when they caught covid have ended up in ICU, but only 12.7% of people exposed to covid had had the jab.
Therefore having the jab INCREASED your chance of ended up in ICU!!!



Just for the avoidance of any doubt, I'm not saying the jab makes you more likely to end up in ICU.
I am however pointing out that the current stats, like the one posted by BC, are misleading and shouldn't be relied upon as proof of the effectiveness of the jab.

In reality, looking at 113 people out of a population of 25.4m isn't a big enough sample size to draw any meaningful conclusion as to the effectiveness of the vaccine.

(There are other methods which prove it works, this just isn't a good one).

[whufc]

Cracked the 900 in NSW today

How many were out in the community.

[Jim05]

Cracked the 900 in NSW today

How many were out in the community.

130 odd with 700 still unclassified

[whufc]

Cracked the 900 in NSW today

How many were out in the community.

130 odd with 700 still unclassified

So 130 out of roughly 200 were that they know of.

[The Bedge]

Geez the race between Buddy and NSW to 1000 really is heating up!

[Armchair expert]

Don't think the vics hit 900 last year

[Jimmy_041]

Interesting to hear that of the 113 people in ICU in NSW, 98 of them haven't been vaccinated. One has had both shots and 14 have had one shot.

Headline: Only 13.3% of people in ICU had been vaccinated (1 or 2 shots), the vaccine works!

Analysis:
Generally people in ICU caught covid some time ago (you don't catch it and then end up in ICU tomorrow).
I have no idea how long it takes for the average person to deteriorate to the point they end up in ICU, but a guess of a month seems reasonable?
Then assume the average stay in ICU is another month?

Means on average, those currently in ICU caught it 6 weeks ago.

6 weeks ago, NSW had issued 45% of the jabs they currently have (2.7m vs 6.0m).
Australia currently has vaccinated (one or more doses) 11m out of 25.4m, 43.3%.
So rewinding that 6 weeks you get 19% (45% of 43.3%) of people had a jab in their arm.

Well 19% is still higher than 13.3%, so the vaccine works.

Yes, but look at those people who were early to get the jab, generally they are the people that care more about the virus. They wear masks more than those that don't care, they sanitise their hands more regularly, they try and keep 1.5m more often than others, they generally try and limit their exposure. These behaviours are having an impact. How much? Perhaps a third? Taking 1/3 off of 19% and you get 12.7%.

Summary: So 13.3% of people who were jabbed when they caught covid have ended up in ICU, but only 12.7% of people exposed to covid had had the jab.
Therefore having the jab INCREASED your chance of ended up in ICU!!!



Just for the avoidance of any doubt, I'm not saying the jab makes you more likely to end up in ICU.
I am however pointing out that the current stats, like the one posted by BC, are misleading and shouldn't be relied upon as proof of the effectiveness of the jab.

In reality, looking at 113 people out of a population of 25.4m isn't a big enough sample size to draw any meaningful conclusion as to the effectiveness of the vaccine.

(There are other methods which prove it works, this just isn't a good one).

My eyes and head hurt

[Armchair expert]

First jab done

most painful part the drive down South Road

[daysofourlives]

Interesting to hear that of the 113 people in ICU in NSW, 98 of them haven't been vaccinated. One has had both shots and 14 have had one shot.

Headline: Only 13.3% of people in ICU had been vaccinated (1 or 2 shots), the vaccine works!

Analysis:
Generally people in ICU caught covid some time ago (you don't catch it and then end up in ICU tomorrow).
I have no idea how long it takes for the average person to deteriorate to the point they end up in ICU, but a guess of a month seems reasonable?
Then assume the average stay in ICU is another month?

Means on average, those currently in ICU caught it 6 weeks ago.

6 weeks ago, NSW had issued 45% of the jabs they currently have (2.7m vs 6.0m).
Australia currently has vaccinated (one or more doses) 11m out of 25.4m, 43.3%.
So rewinding that 6 weeks you get 19% (45% of 43.3%) of people had a jab in their arm.

Well 19% is still higher than 13.3%, so the vaccine works.

Yes, but look at those people who were early to get the jab, generally they are the people that care more about the virus. They wear masks more than those that don't care, they sanitise their hands more regularly, they try and keep 1.5m more often than others, they generally try and limit their exposure. These behaviours are having an impact. How much? Perhaps a third? Taking 1/3 off of 19% and you get 12.7%.

Summary: So 13.3% of people who were jabbed when they caught covid have ended up in ICU, but only 12.7% of people exposed to covid had had the jab.
Therefore having the jab INCREASED your chance of ended up in ICU!!!



Just for the avoidance of any doubt, I'm not saying the jab makes you more likely to end up in ICU.
I am however pointing out that the current stats, like the one posted by BC, are misleading and shouldn't be relied upon as proof of the effectiveness of the jab.

In reality, looking at 113 people out of a population of 25.4m isn't a big enough sample size to draw any meaningful conclusion as to the effectiveness of the vaccine.

(There are other methods which prove it works, this just isn't a good one).

Looks like youre less likely to die if you get covid if you havent been jabbed, definite game changer, keep lining up for your jabs.

https://chriswaldburger.substack.com/p/ ... oys-entire

[Eagles2014]

Interesting to hear that of the 113 people in ICU in NSW, 98 of them haven't been vaccinated. One has had both shots and 14 have had one shot.

Headline: Only 13.3% of people in ICU had been vaccinated (1 or 2 shots), the vaccine works!

Analysis:
Generally people in ICU caught covid some time ago (you don't catch it and then end up in ICU tomorrow).
I have no idea how long it takes for the average person to deteriorate to the point they end up in ICU, but a guess of a month seems reasonable?
Then assume the average stay in ICU is another month?

Means on average, those currently in ICU caught it 6 weeks ago.

6 weeks ago, NSW had issued 45% of the jabs they currently have (2.7m vs 6.0m).
Australia currently has vaccinated (one or more doses) 11m out of 25.4m, 43.3%.
So rewinding that 6 weeks you get 19% (45% of 43.3%) of people had a jab in their arm.

Well 19% is still higher than 13.3%, so the vaccine works.

Yes, but look at those people who were early to get the jab, generally they are the people that care more about the virus. They wear masks more than those that don't care, they sanitise their hands more regularly, they try and keep 1.5m more often than others, they generally try and limit their exposure. These behaviours are having an impact. How much? Perhaps a third? Taking 1/3 off of 19% and you get 12.7%.

Summary: So 13.3% of people who were jabbed when they caught covid have ended up in ICU, but only 12.7% of people exposed to covid had had the jab.
Therefore having the jab INCREASED your chance of ended up in ICU!!!



Just for the avoidance of any doubt, I'm not saying the jab makes you more likely to end up in ICU.
I am however pointing out that the current stats, like the one posted by BC, are misleading and shouldn't be relied upon as proof of the effectiveness of the jab.

In reality, looking at 113 people out of a population of 25.4m isn't a big enough sample size to draw any meaningful conclusion as to the effectiveness of the vaccine.

(There are other methods which prove it works, this just isn't a good one).

Looks like youre less likely to die if you get covid if you havent been jabbed, definite game changer, keep lining up for your jabs.

https://chriswaldburger.substack.com/p/ ... oys-entire

You literally are the most gullible bloke going around, the crap they put out sucking idiots like you in.

Enjoy staying at home the rest of your life because you won’t have the vaccine passport

[Armchair expert]

Christ on a stick, look at the percentage of over 50's vaccinated in the UK

its >90%

no ******* shit more deaths are from those double vaccinated

there is 10 times as many

adjusted

205 x 10 = 2050 v 389

[whufc]

Interesting...…..been confirmed that business property laws allow for access to be denied to those that haven't had their vaccine.

Presuming its the same laws that allows nightclubs to deny access to those with tattoos or not meeting dress code standards.

Will be interesting to see the take up once vaccine rates push up towards 70-90% and the vaccinated become the clear majority.

[Armchair expert]

Geez the race between Buddy and NSW to 1000 really is heating up!

NSW wins

[Jimmy_041]

Geez the race between Buddy and NSW to 1000 really is heating up!

NSW wins

It was always going to be a problem when it got loose in the western suburbs of Sydney
Its hard enough trying to control the people in the Northern & Eastern suburbs but the West is the wild west
The genie is well and truly out of the bottle now

[Lightning McQueen]

It was always going to be a problem when it got loose in the western suburbs of Sydney
Its hard enough trying to control the people in the Northern & Eastern suburbs but the West is the wild west
The genie is well and truly out of the bottle now

I'm surprised that we haven't had another turn yet, mid September would be my bet.

[amber_fluid]

It was always going to be a problem when it got loose in the western suburbs of Sydney
Its hard enough trying to control the people in the Northern & Eastern suburbs but the West is the wild west
The genie is well and truly out of the bottle now

I'm surprised that we haven't had another turn yet, mid September would be my bet.

As long as it’s not **** school holidays again

[Lightning McQueen]

It was always going to be a problem when it got loose in the western suburbs of Sydney
Its hard enough trying to control the people in the Northern & Eastern suburbs but the West is the wild west
The genie is well and truly out of the bottle now

I'm surprised that we haven't had another turn yet, mid September would be my bet.

As long as it’s not **** school holidays again

It will be, they'll want to let it out at the most least disruptive time.

[amber_fluid]

It was always going to be a problem when it got loose in the western suburbs of Sydney
Its hard enough trying to control the people in the Northern & Eastern suburbs but the West is the wild west
The genie is well and truly out of the bottle now

I'm surprised that we haven't had another turn yet, mid September would be my bet.

As long as it’s not **** school holidays again

It will be, they'll want to let it out at the most least disruptive time.

How considerate of them.
Nothing better than spending 2 weeks locked at home with kids.

[Lightning McQueen]

How considerate of them.
Nothing better than spending 2 weeks locked at home with kids.

Alright if you're Robert Hughes or Bill Cosby.

[amber_fluid]

How considerate of them.
Nothing better than spending 2 weeks locked at home with kids.

Alright if you're Robert Hughes or Bill Cosby.

I mean that’s not funny!