Coronavirus (Covid19)

[cracka]

Extra beds aren't the answer on their own it s the human clinical resources (Medial officers, Nurses, Allied health) that where the spend is required to support community services so we don't rely on hospital beds

Oh and people doing the right thing to protect ourselves, getting jabbed, social distancing, adapting to the new normal.

A former state pollie I know suggested to me recently over a drink or two that one of the issues was staffing costs. He pointed out that when nurses trained on the job in the hospitals, instead of at independent training centres, that kept the cost of keeping beds open down, and so it was easier to clear out the ED and prevent ramping, while at the same time it was affordable to hire more senior nurses to teach and supervise the training student nurses.

A couple of nurses I knew in the past, who had trained in the new college system, volunteered that the trained in the hospital staff also were more of top of procedures and practical things than the new college graduate nurses like themselves for the first year of nursing.

An interesting speculation.

That's been a major gripe of mine for years. Most businesses will take a book smart person over a practically trained person for a job.

[Booney]

Victoria 221 cases.

[Dutchy]

Again Vics seem to be stopping the exponential growth like NSW - is this the vaccines working?

[stan]

Again Vics seem to be stopping the exponential growth like NSW - is this the vaccines working?

Probably not. They actually have some form of lockdown which would be the effect of this.

Hospital numbers are where you'll find the effectiveness of the vaccine.

[Jim05]

324 in Victoria today

[locky801]

324 in Victoria today

on the way up unfortunately it seems

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[Booney]

[Booney]

The restrictions will be eased on the Monday after NSW hits 70 per cent double dose. Only fully vaccinated people and those with medical exemptions will have access to the freedoms allowed under the Reopening NSW roadmap.

Gatherings in the home and public spaces:

• Up to five visitors will be allowed in a home where all adults are vaccinated (not including children 12 and under)

• Up to 20 people can gather in outdoor settings

Venues including hospitality, retail stores and gyms:

• Hospitality venues can reopen subject to one person per 4 sqm inside and one person per 2 sqm outside, with standing while drinking permitted outside

• Retail stores can reopen under the one person per 4 sqm rule (unvaccinated people will continue to only be able to access critical retail)

• Personal services such as hairdressers and nail salons can open with one person per 4 sqm, capped at five clients per premises

• Gyms and indoor recreation facilities can open under the one person per 4 sqm rule and can offer classes for up to 20 people

• Sporting facilities including swimming pools can reopen

Stadiums, theatres and major outdoor recreation facilities:

• Major recreation outdoor facilities including stadiums, racecourses, theme parks and zoos can reopen with one person per 4 sqm, capped at 5,000 people

• Up to 500 people can attend ticketed and seated outdoor events

• Indoor entertainment and information facilities including cinemas, theatres, music halls, museums and galleries can reopen with one person per 4 sqm or 75 per cent fixed seated capacity

Weddings, funerals and places of worship:

• Up to 50 guests can attend weddings, with dancing permitted and eating and drinking only while seated

• Up to 50 guests can attend funerals, with eating and drinking while seated

• Churches and places of worship to open subject to one person per 4 sqm rule, with no singing

Travel:

• Domestic travel, including trips to regional NSW, will be permitted

• Caravan parks and camping grounds can open

• Carpooling will be permitted

• Non-vaccinated young people aged under 16 will be able to access all outdoor settings but will only be able to visit indoor venues with members of their household

• Employers must continue to allow employees to work from home if the employee is able to do so

• There will be revised guidance on isolation for close and casual contacts who are fully vaccinated, with details to be provided closer to the reopening date

Masks:

• Masks will remain mandatory for all indoor public venues, including public transport, front-of-house hospitality, retail and business premises, on planes and at airports

• Only hospitality staff will be required to wear a mask when outdoors

• Children aged under 12 will not need to wear a mask indoors.

[stan]

The restrictions will be eased on the Monday after NSW hits 70 per cent double dose. Only fully vaccinated people and those with medical exemptions will have access to the freedoms allowed under the Reopening NSW roadmap.

Gatherings in the home and public spaces:

• Up to five visitors will be allowed in a home where all adults are vaccinated (not including children 12 and under)

• Up to 20 people can gather in outdoor settings

Venues including hospitality, retail stores and gyms:

• Hospitality venues can reopen subject to one person per 4 sqm inside and one person per 2 sqm outside, with standing while drinking permitted outside

• Retail stores can reopen under the one person per 4 sqm rule (unvaccinated people will continue to only be able to access critical retail)

• Personal services such as hairdressers and nail salons can open with one person per 4 sqm, capped at five clients per premises

• Gyms and indoor recreation facilities can open under the one person per 4 sqm rule and can offer classes for up to 20 people

• Sporting facilities including swimming pools can reopen

Stadiums, theatres and major outdoor recreation facilities:

• Major recreation outdoor facilities including stadiums, racecourses, theme parks and zoos can reopen with one person per 4 sqm, capped at 5,000 people

• Up to 500 people can attend ticketed and seated outdoor events

• Indoor entertainment and information facilities including cinemas, theatres, music halls, museums and galleries can reopen with one person per 4 sqm or 75 per cent fixed seated capacity

Weddings, funerals and places of worship:

• Up to 50 guests can attend weddings, with dancing permitted and eating and drinking only while seated

• Up to 50 guests can attend funerals, with eating and drinking while seated

• Churches and places of worship to open subject to one person per 4 sqm rule, with no singing

Travel:

• Domestic travel, including trips to regional NSW, will be permitted

• Caravan parks and camping grounds can open

• Carpooling will be permitted

• Non-vaccinated young people aged under 16 will be able to access all outdoor settings but will only be able to visit indoor venues with members of their household

• Employers must continue to allow employees to work from home if the employee is able to do so

• There will be revised guidance on isolation for close and casual contacts who are fully vaccinated, with details to be provided closer to the reopening date

Masks:

• Masks will remain mandatory for all indoor public venues, including public transport, front-of-house hospitality, retail and business premises, on planes and at airports

• Only hospitality staff will be required to wear a mask when outdoors

• Children aged under 12 will not need to wear a mask indoors.

NSW just saying **** you all we are going early.

[Trader]

The restrictions will be eased on the Monday after NSW hits 70 per cent double dose. Only fully vaccinated people and those with medical exemptions will have access to the freedoms allowed under the Reopening NSW roadmap.

NSW just saying **** you all we are going early.

Not Really, read the bold line.

They are going to those restrictions after they hit 70%.
And lets be honest, they are mild easing of restrictions given the previous messaging was once we get to 70% life will return to normal.

[Booney]

The restrictions will be eased on the Monday after NSW hits 70 per cent double dose. Only fully vaccinated people and those with medical exemptions will have access to the freedoms allowed under the Reopening NSW roadmap.

NSW just saying **** you all we are going early.

Not Really, read the bold line.

They are going to those restrictions after they hit 70%.
And lets be honest, they are mild easing of restrictions given the previous messaging was once we get to 70% life will return to normal.

They're actually leading the way.

We've been told all along get to 70% vaccinated and away we go, they're just doing it while they're getting 1400 cases per day when I'd imagine ideal case is, like SA/WA/Qld, you open back up with 70% vaxed and very few community transmissions.

[Armchair expert]

Funny how the NSW CHO has no power unlike every other state, she wanted 85-90% but Gladys said 70% is fine



https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-ne ... bb7d193744

[locky801]

meanwhile good old Adelaide is still masking up

[am Bays]

Ivermectin side effects: https://www.sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2021/09/03/-thinking-of-trying-ivermectin-for-covid-heres-what-can-happen-w.html

However there are report on how it makes you shoot blanks:

Have cited the pubmed source rather than ladbible https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21783912/

[cracka]

Ivermectin side effects: https://www.sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2021/09/03/-thinking-of-trying-ivermectin-for-covid-heres-what-can-happen-w.html

However there are report on how it makes you shoot blanks:

Have cited the pubmed source rather than ladbible https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21783912/

That will be a good thing if all the anti vaxxers take it. They won't be able to breed

[Booney]

324 in Victoria today

on the way up unfortunately it seems

334 today and 1 death.

[Jim05]

Mandatory double doses for entry to all Ashes tests this year

[Booney]

Biden bringing in policy that will mean 100 million Americans will need to be vaccinated to go to work.

All government employees, all companies with over 100 employees, among other services.

[mighty_tiger_79]

Biden bringing in policy that will mean 100 million Americans will need to be vaccinated to go to work.

All government employees, all companies with over 100 employees, among other services.

And get paid to do so.

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