Port Adelaide 2021

[Corona Man]

I say this with a high degree of confidence, Richardson will probably call him.

[The Bedge]

If a true fact the 3 and 19 win loss ratio against the top 4 sides probably tells a pretty clear picture about how far away Port are from a flag.

Getting 3 wins in 4 games (at most) against top 4 contenders looks miles off for this playing group and coach. Would take a huge turn around from a relatively large sample size.

Surely that spells more than just a mental issue...….

What counts as a top 4 side? When you play them? Where they finish on the ladder?

[Booney]

If a true fact the 3 and 19 win loss ratio against the top 4 sides probably tells a pretty clear picture about how far away Port are from a flag.

Getting 3 wins in 4 games (at most) against top 4 contenders looks miles off for this playing group and coach. Would take a huge turn around from a relatively large sample size.

Surely that spells more than just a mental issue...….

What counts as a top 4 side? When you play them? Where they finish on the ladder?

Depends on the narrative you want to use to flick shit at Port mate.

[Brodlach]

Thoughts on chasing Finlayson if true @Booney?

Wouldn’t think he would be high on your wish list?

[mots02]

Here it is CM:

Die-hard Port Adelaide fan 'Chewy316' on BigFooty, has shared the email he sent to Port Adelaide CEO Matthew Richardson after Saturday night's embarrassing loss to the Western Bulldogs.

"Dear Mr. Richardson,

I have been a Port Adelaide supporter since 2001 (I was 9 years old). In the last 20 years I have been a member for over 15 of them including every year since 2013. I lived in Melbourne from 2013 until 2019 but it didn’t stop me buying a full 11 game membership for my family of 3, and I personally would travel from Melbourne to Adelaide for at least 80% of our home games during that period.

I was also there on Saturday night witnessing the debacle at Adelaide Oval.

Our president this morning on FiveAA suggested that Saturday night’s game was an aberration. Was it really? Since 2017 when has this team actually produced consistently high performances against a top 4 opponent? In that time we are 3 wins and 19 losses against top 4 teams - 3rd worst record in the league. Until this team can consistently produce high level performances against the top teams in the competition, the thought of winning a premiership is laughable.

Our senior coach has consistently said all season that we should not be judged on what we do in June or July, but we should be judged by what we do in finals. He said at the start of the year that we were “ready” to go all the way this year. You yourself set out an ambitious goal at the start of your tenure - 3 flags in the next 5 seasons. I applauded it at the time and I still do. It is the type of lofty goals that should be set for a club that solely exists to win premierships. Yet with one season down that goal is now 3 flags in the next 4 seasons. An ambitious goal, yes. Realistic - possibly. But this morning our president said on the radio that we’re a young team and we are still building. The mixed messaging after the fact in an attempt to pacify the supporters is quite frankly a disgrace.

In the last 9 years we have seen our footy department become fully funded. We have turned over the assistant coaching roster - and on many occasions our senior coach has labelled our coaching assistants as the best in the league. We have acquired many players who were supposedly the “missing piece” of the puzzle - Ryder, Dixon, Rockliff, Motlop, Watts, Lycett etc. We’ve also done multiple rebuilds during this time - first at the start of 2013 and again at the end of 2018. As it stands right now, it can be argued that our playing list is as good as any in the league. This might be a team who can still improve through its young development, but the club touted them as a team ready to win this season, which they haven’t, and now the president is seeking damage control without even apologising to the supporter base. The only stone this club hasn’t turned over during this period in an attempt to improve the team is change the senior coach.

If our senior coach stays in charge for 2022, half way through the year he will hold the record for most games coached by an individual at one club without making the grand final. For a club that supposedly exists to win premierships, having that record associated with us is an embarrassment. Nothing about that embodies what the club is about - nor does it make out community proud.

There are some extremely accomplished young coaches available - and some experienced heads, including the most successful coach in the history of the modern game (Alistair Clarkson).

Having been asked to be judged on finals, it is fair to say that the team has not only gone backwards compared to last year’s performance, but they produced a performance on Saturday night that wasn’t too dissimilar to the rubbish we saw when the club was on its knees in the early 2010s at Footy Park.

From 1999 through 2001 inclusive, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers were considered an elite team that should have gone to the Super Bowl. They made the playoffs three straight years but were underwhelming in the playoffs. At the end of the 2001 season having done everything they could otherwise to win, they realised they needed a change. They dismissed their head coach and traded for the best young coach in the league at the time, Jon Gruden. In Gruden’s first season as the Buccaneers’ head coach they won the Super Bowl.

Fortune favours the brave - and it is time our club be brave and make some hard decisions - not for the betterment of the people involved, but for the betterment of the club.

I look forward to hearing from you."

Now that's a Review.

[Booney]

Thoughts on chasing Finlayson if true @Booney?

Wouldn’t think he would be high on your wish list?

I'm not sure we're chasing him mate, sounds like he's keen to get to SA and let's be fair, who are you going to want to join out of the two teams right now?

We'd have to give up either Marshall or Ladhams to get him I'd say and I wouldn't be prepared to do that.

[Brodlach]

Not sure we would want him either.

You’d think if you are chasing him at maybe the Marshall or Dixon leaving rumours are correct, if not I’m not sure he plays for you

[Booney]

If a true fact the 3 and 19 win loss ratio against the top 4 sides probably tells a pretty clear picture about how far away Port are from a flag.

Getting 3 wins in 4 games (at most) against top 4 contenders looks miles off for this playing group and coach. Would take a huge turn around from a relatively large sample size.

Surely that spells more than just a mental issue...….

It's an odd stat that can be manipulated in several ways.

As in, this years finals series included Essendon, Sydney, GWS, Geelong and the Bulldogs, we beat all of them this year.

In 2020 Collingwood, Bulldogs, Geelong, West Coast and Richmond all played finals, we beat all them of them in 2020.

See.

[mots02]

If a true fact the 3 and 19 win loss ratio against the top 4 sides probably tells a pretty clear picture about how far away Port are from a flag.

Getting 3 wins in 4 games (at most) against top 4 contenders looks miles off for this playing group and coach. Would take a huge turn around from a relatively large sample size.

Surely that spells more than just a mental issue...….

It's an odd stat that can be manipulated in several ways.

As in, this years finals series included Essendon, Sydney, GWS, Geelong and the Bulldogs, we beat all of them this year.

In 2020 Collingwood, Bulldogs, Geelong, West Coast and Richmond all played finals, we beat all them of them in 2020.

See.

I just went back and did a quick tally up.

Used the top 4 as they finished at the end of the home and away season in 2018, 2019, 2020 and 2021. In 2020 and 2020 i added the 5th ranked team as Port were in the top 4.

Port went:

2018 - 1 Win 4 Losses
2019 - 1 Win 5 Losses
2020 - 2 Wins 2 Losses
2021 - 1 Win 4 Losses

For a 5 - 15 record against the top 4 in home and away matches. I didn't include finals matches.

For comparison (because I know we love that), the Crows went 4 - 17 against the same teams in the same period.

Stats can be misleading, stats can be manipulated, but this set of numbers kind of echo's what most people say. Not getting it done against the best.

[whufc]

If a true fact the 3 and 19 win loss ratio against the top 4 sides probably tells a pretty clear picture about how far away Port are from a flag.

Getting 3 wins in 4 games (at most) against top 4 contenders looks miles off for this playing group and coach. Would take a huge turn around from a relatively large sample size.

Surely that spells more than just a mental issue...….

It's an odd stat that can be manipulated in several ways.

As in, this years finals series included Essendon, Sydney, GWS, Geelong and the Bulldogs, we beat all of them this year.

In 2020 Collingwood, Bulldogs, Geelong, West Coast and Richmond all played finals, we beat all them of them in 2020.

See.

I think you start immediately by looking at the prelim sides as the top4. To make the prelim you have one been strong enough in the minor round to position yourself for a crack and you've been good enough under finals pressure to atleast win one final minimum.

Prelim sides in my opinion are the top 4 which is who you should measure against. On this occasions we had 5 strong sides with Brisbane but it falls away real quick after that most years. Just like Port were deserdevely in the top 4 this year. It just seems on a consistent basis they can match it with fellow top 4 sides.

[Booney]

There's a reason the top 4 are hard to beat.....

[whufc]

There's a reason the top 4 are hard to beat.....

Absolutely but if you want to win 3 flags in 5 years you have to be better.

Don't use exist to win premierships. The old Port wouldn't have said the top four is hard to beat.

[Armchair expert]

And the fact you hardly ever play them with your repeated soft draws

Double ups this season. Crows saints blues, pies, dogs

[Booney]

There's a reason the top 4 are hard to beat.....

Absolutely but if you want to win 3 flags in 5 years you have to be better.

[Booney]

And the fact you hardly ever play them with your repeated soft draws

Double ups this season. Crows saints blues, pies, dogs

Clueless.

St Kilda, Western Bulldogs and Collingwood all played finals in 2020, is it our fault they dropped off?

[mots02]

There's a reason the top 4 are hard to beat.....

As a top 4 side you should also therefore also be hard to beat?

5 - 15 or 3 - 19 against fellow hard to beat top 4 sides, or whatever the number you choose to use, suggests not.

Magnificent record against the shite teams though, so there is that.

[Booney]

There's a reason the top 4 are hard to beat.....

As a top 4 side you should also therefore also be hard to beat?

5 - 15 or 3 - 19 against fellow hard to beat top 4 sides, or whatever the number you choose to use, suggests not.

Magnificent record against the shite teams though, so there is that.

Correct, the poor sides find it hard to beat us, they don't. We find it hard to beat the very good sides, we don't.

So, we have to get better.

Breaking atoms today lads.

[mots02]

Booney showing more fight on here than his team did the other night.

So kudos to that!

[Corona Man]

Booney showing more fight on here than his team did the other night.

So kudos to that!

He did say to pile on though....

[UK Fan]

I found this funny for some reason