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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby Armchair expert » Fri Sep 17, 2021 8:41 pm

I think anti-vaxxers are more like <1%

90% should be easily do-able
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby Apachebulldog » Sat Sep 18, 2021 10:33 am

Wow whats happening in Israel.

In July 2021 Israelis had their 3rd jab booster and guess what covid cases have now spiked now there is talk of a 4 th jab is it gonna be the kill shot?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... erday.html
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby Armchair expert » Sat Sep 18, 2021 10:40 am

Apachebulldog wrote:Wow whats happening in Israel.

In July 2021 Israelis had their 3rd jab booster and guess what covid cases have now spiked now there is talk of a 4 th jab is it gonna be the kill shot?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... erday.html


Yep if any country was going to kill its own people it would be them
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby DOC » Sat Sep 18, 2021 10:50 am

Unless I have missed your meaning. That statement is as inaccurate as is humanly possible. Besides my football predictions.
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby RB » Sat Sep 18, 2021 10:52 am

I think he was being sarcastic.
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby Apachebulldog » Sat Sep 18, 2021 10:56 am

Came across this article regarding Remdesvir it also has been given EAU status just like the vaccines to treat Covid in hospitals have seen other reports where its also causing liver and kidney damage.

So i researched further into costs of the following drugs.

Remdesivir cost $ 550 per dose.

Ivermectin around $6 a dose
HCQ around 40 cents a dose.

At the end of the article it states.

What other drugs will affect remdesivir?

Tell your doctor if you also take chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine. Either of these other medicines could make remdesivir less effective.


Other drugs may affect remdesivir, including prescription and over-the-counter medicines, vitamins, and herbal products. Tell your doctor about all your current medicines and any medicine you start or stop using

So have have ya all worked it out Big Pharma controls the narrative its all about PROFITS.

https://www.drugs.com/mtm/remdesivir.html
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby DOC » Sat Sep 18, 2021 11:48 am

Hang on.

So you think companies are in business to make money?

That won't catch on.
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby Apachebulldog » Sat Sep 18, 2021 8:37 pm

The scamdemic in America is starting to unravel.


Two FDA regulators resign.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... sters.html


The American Spud is trying to force boosters onto the population with out FDA approval.

FDA panel votes 16-2 AGAINST recommending to approve Pfizer booster shots to healthy people under 65 because there is not enough evidence they are safe and effective

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/arti ... shots.html

Once again follow da money trails.
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby mots02 » Mon Sep 20, 2021 9:07 am

Apachebulldog wrote:Came across this article regarding Remdesvir it also has been given EAU status just like the vaccines to treat Covid in hospitals have seen other reports where its also causing liver and kidney damage.

So i researched further into costs of the following drugs.

Remdesivir cost $ 550 per dose.

Ivermectin around $6 a dose
HCQ around 40 cents a dose.

At the end of the article it states.

What other drugs will affect remdesivir?

[b]Tell your doctor if you also take chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine. Either of these other medicines could make remdesivir less effective.
[/b]

Other drugs may affect remdesivir, including prescription and over-the-counter medicines, vitamins, and herbal products. Tell your doctor about all your current medicines and any medicine you start or stop using

So have have ya all worked it out Big Pharma controls the narrative its all about PROFITS.

https://www.drugs.com/mtm/remdesivir.html


So it's about Capitalism and Communism?

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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby Trader » Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:30 pm

Booney wrote:
Dutchy wrote:SO they want us to get to 80%, where do you think it will end up? 90% a stretch?


I'll be surprised if we got to 80% fully vaccinated.

5-8% anti vaxxers, 3-5% religion based, 3-5% just reluctant, 3-5% just lazy.


Agreed.

The 70+ year olds have had yonks to get jabbed yet the stats that came out last week showed that in every state bar ACT this group were below 75% double jabbed.

Given they not only have had ample time to get jabbed, but are also the group that most benefit from needing a vaccine, I would assume the apathy rates will only increase as you go down the age brackets.

I don't think we'll make it to 80%.

A cynical person would go on to suggest the medical experts know 80% is unachievable and have therefore picked that figure to ensure rules can remain in place long term.
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby Booney » Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:34 pm

Trader wrote:
Booney wrote:
Dutchy wrote:SO they want us to get to 80%, where do you think it will end up? 90% a stretch?


I'll be surprised if we got to 80% fully vaccinated.

5-8% anti vaxxers, 3-5% religion based, 3-5% just reluctant, 3-5% just lazy.


Agreed.

The 70+ year olds have had yonks to get jabbed yet the stats that came out last week showed that in every state bar ACT this group were below 75% double jabbed.

Given they not only have had ample time to get jabbed, but are also the group that most benefit from needing a vaccine, I would assume the apathy rates will only increase as you go down the age brackets.

I don't think we'll make it to 80%.

A cynical person would go on to suggest the medical experts know 80% is unachievable and have therefore picked that figure to ensure rules can remain in place long term.


I'd say they picked that figure because the virus decimating 20% of the population is easier to manage than if it were 30% of the population riddled with it.
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby stan » Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:41 pm

Some really odd signs at the Adelaide rallies. The dick in hand one which was obviously a dig at Bird in Hand was probably my favourite.
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby Trader » Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:45 pm

Booney wrote:
Trader wrote:
Booney wrote:
Dutchy wrote:SO they want us to get to 80%, where do you think it will end up? 90% a stretch?


I'll be surprised if we got to 80% fully vaccinated.

5-8% anti vaxxers, 3-5% religion based, 3-5% just reluctant, 3-5% just lazy.


...

A cynical person would go on to suggest the medical experts know 80% is unachievable and have therefore picked that figure to ensure rules can remain in place long term.


I'd say they picked that figure because the virus decimating 20% of the population is easier to manage than if it were 30% of the population riddled with it.


Agreed, but equally you could then say why didn't they pick 90%, or 99%.
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby Booney » Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:47 pm

stan wrote:Some really odd signs at the Adelaide rallies. The dick in hand one which was obviously a dig at Bird in Hand was probably my favourite.


1 - The chick talking to Channel 9 saying "We don't trust the Main Stream Media"
2 - The cover over the microphone they were all using, one assumes to help keep the microphone clean
3 - People using their children as placard holding devices. Scum.
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby jo172 » Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:49 pm

Trader wrote:
Booney wrote:
Dutchy wrote:SO they want us to get to 80%, where do you think it will end up? 90% a stretch?


I'll be surprised if we got to 80% fully vaccinated.

5-8% anti vaxxers, 3-5% religion based, 3-5% just reluctant, 3-5% just lazy.


Agreed.

The 70+ year olds have had yonks to get jabbed yet the stats that came out last week showed that in every state bar ACT this group were below 75% double jabbed.

Given they not only have had ample time to get jabbed, but are also the group that most benefit from needing a vaccine, I would assume the apathy rates will only increase as you go down the age brackets.

I don't think we'll make it to 80%.

A cynical person would go on to suggest the medical experts know 80% is unachievable and have therefore picked that figure to ensure rules can remain in place long term.



https://www.health.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/2021/09/covid-19-vaccine-rollout-update-19-september-2021.pdf

As of yesterday 92% of 70+ year olds are single jabbed against 74% double jabbed. I think you can infer that a reasonable proportion of the 18% gap will soon become double jabbed.

I tend to agree that we won't get to 80% in the states that have avoided an outbreak (SA, Tas, Qld and WA). Too much carrot, not enough stick.
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby Dutchy » Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:50 pm

Ive been discussing it with my sons (14 & 18) and their friends group, was surprised that all of them I spoke to are already jabbed or were waiting for footy season to be over and will now get it done, none of them are too concerned and just see it as something that needs to get done, I wouldn't be surprised if the under 25's end up being the highest % jabbed.
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby jo172 » Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:51 pm

See this image tells a story.

Note that also you can't get an appointment at Wayville for 3 weeks.

Reason for cautious optimism.
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby Trader » Mon Sep 20, 2021 1:00 pm

jo172 wrote:https://www.health.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/2021/09/covid-19-vaccine-rollout-update-19-september-2021.pdf

As of yesterday 92% of 70+ year olds are single jabbed against 74% double jabbed. I think you can infer that a reasonable proportion of the 18% gap will soon become double jabbed.

I tend to agree that we won't get to 80% in the states that have avoided an outbreak (SA, Tas, Qld and WA). Too much carrot, not enough stick.


That's a bit more positive.

I suspect there will be a portion that had a bad reaction to the first jab so won't bother with the second, but they will be few and far between hopefully.

The recent announcements from Dan showing they are firmly pushing ahead with different restrictions for vaxxed vs non-vaxxed will help get those sitting on the fence over the line too.
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby Dutchy » Mon Sep 20, 2021 1:14 pm

Off to Perth tomorrow morning, be nice to dispense with the mark for a while
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby Wedgie » Mon Sep 20, 2021 1:29 pm

Dutchy wrote:Off to Perth tomorrow morning, be nice to dispense with the mark for a while

Poor Mark. Is that your boyfriend? :lol:
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