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Re: PDCA

by The Bedge » Mon Oct 11, 2021 10:56 am

whufc wrote:I would think ATCA if allowing hard wicket and A&SCA would be considered genuine competitors.

ATCA - If they end up having the hard wicket comp, yeah.
ASCA - They play 2 day cricket in all grades.
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Re: PDCA

by BenchedEagle » Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:40 am

The Bedge wrote:Tough day at the office for Adam Moss - 218no with 29x 6's in LO2 :shock: :lol:

On the primary school oval.. Not suitable for senior cricket. I made my only ever ton there, thats tellin you somethin! haha
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Re: PDCA

by BenchedEagle » Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:45 am

The Bedge wrote:
Weirdest results:
Para Vista 1/104 tied Eyre Royals 104

Could be a scorebook error? thought they passed runs and finsihed game..
you would still give them a result usrely? just throw in a leg bye haha
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Re: PDCA

by Lightning McQueen » Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:54 am

BenchedEagle wrote:
The Bedge wrote:Tough day at the office for Adam Moss - 218no with 29x 6's in LO2 :shock: :lol:

On the primary school oval.. Not suitable for senior cricket. I made my only ever ton there, thats tellin you somethin! haha

Adam strikes the ball very well too, genuine A Grade standard, used to frustrate the hell out of me.
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Re: PDCA

by The Bedge » Mon Oct 11, 2021 12:23 pm

BenchedEagle wrote:
The Bedge wrote:
Weirdest results:
Para Vista 1/104 tied Eyre Royals 104

Could be a scorebook error? thought they passed runs and finsihed game..
you would still give them a result usrely? just throw in a leg bye haha


Apparently so, scorebooks didn't add up.. thought they'd past and hadn't.. Word is both innings didn't add up, and result will remain a draw coz well they should've been better at scoring haha!
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Re: PDCA

by Lightning McQueen » Mon Oct 11, 2021 1:19 pm

The Bedge wrote:
BenchedEagle wrote:
The Bedge wrote:
Weirdest results:
Para Vista 1/104 tied Eyre Royals 104

Could be a scorebook error? thought they passed runs and finsihed game..
you would still give them a result usrely? just throw in a leg bye haha


Apparently so, scorebooks didn't add up.. thought they'd past and hadn't.. Word is both innings didn't add up, and result will remain a draw coz well they should've been better at scoring haha!

That is poor at 1 fa, it's a no brainer. Captain's error.
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Re: PDCA

by The Bedge » Mon Oct 11, 2021 1:34 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:That is poor at 1 fa, it's a no brainer. Captain's error.

There is also a version of events that PV thought they were chasing a lower target, and passed.. realised after it wasn’t the case and actually was under the target - Eyre Royals claim the win, Vista compromise for a draw, captains agreed.. then PV disputed the result given they had 9 wickets in hand and half the overs remaining haha.

Live scoring helps these problems.
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Re: PDCA

by The Old Fellow » Mon Oct 11, 2021 2:28 pm

The Bedge wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:That is poor at 1 fa, it's a no brainer. Captain's error.

There is also a version of events that PV thought they were chasing a lower target, and passed.. realised after it wasn’t the case and actually was under the target - Eyre Royals claim the win, Vista compromise for a draw, captains agreed.. then PV disputed the result given they had 9 wickets in hand and half the overs remaining haha.

Live scoring helps these problems.


That's why you establish the real target once the first innings is complete. If PV were scoring in the second dig as they approached the target there should be ensuring all is correct.

Once they found out they hadn't won why didn't they go back out to hit the required extra runs. Wouldn't be the first time teams recommenced an innings to complete the game!
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Re: PDCA

by Lightning McQueen » Mon Oct 11, 2021 2:43 pm

The Old Fellow wrote:
The Bedge wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:That is poor at 1 fa, it's a no brainer. Captain's error.

There is also a version of events that PV thought they were chasing a lower target, and passed.. realised after it wasn’t the case and actually was under the target - Eyre Royals claim the win, Vista compromise for a draw, captains agreed.. then PV disputed the result given they had 9 wickets in hand and half the overs remaining haha.

Live scoring helps these problems.


That's why you establish the real target once the first innings is complete. If PV were scoring in the second dig as they approached the target there should be ensuring all is correct.

Once they found out they hadn't won why didn't they go back out to hit the required extra runs. Wouldn't be the first time teams recommenced an innings to complete the game!


In this instance two of the fielding side would've lit their durries and opened their cans as three others dashed for the car to pack a cone so the captain says "ahh, just give two runs to Smith and put them on to Jim's bowling, he bowled crap anyway so an extra 2 aint gonna kill him".

Common sense needs to kick in at this level.
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Re: PDCA

by auto » Mon Oct 11, 2021 3:05 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
The Old Fellow wrote:
The Bedge wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:That is poor at 1 fa, it's a no brainer. Captain's error.

There is also a version of events that PV thought they were chasing a lower target, and passed.. realised after it wasn’t the case and actually was under the target - Eyre Royals claim the win, Vista compromise for a draw, captains agreed.. then PV disputed the result given they had 9 wickets in hand and half the overs remaining haha.

Live scoring helps these problems.


That's why you establish the real target once the first innings is complete. If PV were scoring in the second dig as they approached the target there should be ensuring all is correct.

Once they found out they hadn't won why didn't they go back out to hit the required extra runs. Wouldn't be the first time teams recommenced an innings to complete the game!


In this instance two of the fielding side would've lit their durries and opened their cans as three others dashed for the car to pack a cone so the captain says "ahh, just give two runs to Smith and put them on to Jim's bowling, he bowled crap anyway so an extra 2 aint gonna kill him".

Common sense needs to kick in at this level.
Thought Jim bowled alright.

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Re: PDCA

by The Bedge » Mon Oct 11, 2021 3:11 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:In this instance two of the fielding side would've lit their durries and opened their cans as three others dashed for the car to pack a cone so the captain says "ahh, just give two runs to Smith and put them on to Jim's bowling, he bowled crap anyway so an extra 2 aint gonna kill him".

Common sense needs to kick in at this level.

The amount of times I used to get lower grade scorebooks and they didn't add up so I just added a run here and there and tinkered bowling figures - no one was ever any the wiser.

Generally I just tried to keep the runs scored the same and then add/take from the bowlers - they don't notice as much, they only care about wickets. :lol:
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Re: PDCA

by BenchedEagle » Mon Oct 11, 2021 7:08 pm

Once error was realised the PV Captain had every right to go back out and resume play. No matter how many durries were lit and the state of the mats.
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Re: PDCA

by The Old Fellow » Mon Oct 11, 2021 9:33 pm

BenchedEagle wrote:Once error was realised the PV Captain had every right to go back out and resume play. No matter how many durries were lit and the state of the mats.


ER the fielding team only had to go out into the field with one player as long as they hadn't bowled the last over to lose the game. As B Eagle says PV capt had every right or claim game as as ER would have conceded.
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Re: PDCA

by The Bedge » Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:46 am

Jonesy rules with an iron fist. :lol:

According to Law 16.9 and 16.9.1, "the umpires shall order play to resume". The captains are effectively the umpires in this case. 16.9.2 seems to apply that the umpires can call "the necessary corrections to the scores and to the result". Additionally, 16.10 "Once the umpires have agreed with the scorers the correctness of the scores at the conclusion of the match" "– the result cannot thereafter be changed." Therefore, unless extra information can come to light, the result must stand.


Sounds like captains must've agreed to the scores - Para Vista entered the results as well, so perhaps they agreed to a draw, then realised after the fact that was a silly move? :lol:

Oh well, reality is with a 5x team grade, it's unlikely the result will cost PV a finals spot. Play on.
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Re: PDCA

by The Bedge » Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:56 pm

The Bedge wrote:Weirdest results:
Para Vista 1/104 tied Eyre Royals 104

Week later and another draw for Eyre Royals :shock: :lol:

What are the odds!?!
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Re: PDCA

by The Bedge » Mon Oct 18, 2021 3:14 pm

Dublin declared their second innings 0/0? Why not just enforce the follow on?
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Re: PDCA

by Trader » Mon Oct 18, 2021 4:08 pm

The Bedge wrote:Dublin declared their second innings 0/0? Why not just enforce the follow on?


By declaring 0/0 you give the opposition incentive to try and chase. Enforcing the follow on means they can't win and will bat defensively from ball 1.
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Re: PDCA

by whufc » Tue Oct 19, 2021 7:53 am

Going early.

Grand Final preview in div 1 this week EP vs Salisbury West.

A spark lit over the weekend on social media as well...... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: PDCA

by GarrytheGOAT » Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:59 am

whufc wrote:Going early.

Grand Final preview in div 1 this week EP vs Salisbury West.

A spark lit over the weekend on social media as well...... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:




Bowling depth is probably an issue at EP, Looking at Virginias batting scorecard on the weekend, surely a different result in their match if bascombe and warren bat?
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Re: PDCA

by whufc » Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:31 am

GarrytheGOAT wrote:
whufc wrote:Going early.

Grand Final preview in div 1 this week EP vs Salisbury West.

A spark lit over the weekend on social media as well...... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:




Bowling depth is probably an issue at EP, Looking at Virginias batting scorecard on the weekend, surely a different result in their match if bascombe and warren bat?


50 runs is a fair bit short.

Batting is definitely EP strength but there bowling should be able to defend the scores they can hit like on the weekend. I noticed Wills didn't bowl. Is he injured? Would be very handy to have his line and length from the opposite end to Benny Mc at various stages.

For mine they will be a very hard team to beat if they bat first.
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