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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby Vamos » Tue Nov 16, 2021 9:26 pm

daysofourlives wrote:and no one bats an eyelid at 10000 claims for compensation and still bash people for saying no thanks.
Do you know how many compo claims there would have been if we didnt have the vax?

I see Marshall has done his best to unite the vaxed and unvaxed in giving him an absolute serve on his latest road map. It almost makes Nicola's "duck the football" sound sensible.
At least he has made it easy for everyone to break the "rules" no one could possibly understand, bout time people just started doing what they want. Bet your glad you got vaxed so you only have to do 7 days quarantine if you come in close contact, yet someone like me will be doing absolutely none.


Absolutely none, you got that right. No restaurants, no pubs, no travel, no sport, no music events. Enjoy your bubble.
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby Aerie » Tue Nov 16, 2021 9:34 pm

I'm still yet to understand the solution if you're Anti-Vax? Constant lockdowns? Thousands upon thousands of deaths? Our hospitals and health systems completely stuffed?

Unless you're a conspiracy theorist or completely selfish because "you'll be ok".

It'll be Vaccines, boosters and restrictions for a long time yet because it's better than the alternative.
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby Booney » Wed Nov 17, 2021 8:17 am

People with gallows on the steps of Victoria's parliament house calling for the hanging of Daniel Andrews. Every Australian, vax or anti-vax of any description should denounce that behaviour. We live in a democracy where you will have your opportunity to have your say on his political fate, you don't however have the right to call for his death. Disgusting behaviour.
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby daysofourlives » Wed Nov 17, 2021 8:43 am

Straight from the Government

The British government has spilled the beans about that fact that once you get double jabbed, you will never again be able to acquire full natural immunity.

In its Week 42 “COVID-19 vaccine surveillance report,” the U.K. Health Security Agency admitted on page 23 that “N antibody levels appear to be lower in people who acquire infection following two doses of vaccination.” It goes on to explain that this antibody drop is basically permanent.

What’s this mean?

We know the vaccines do not stop infection or transmission of the virus (in fact, the report shows elsewhere that vaccinated adults are now being infected at much HIGHER rates than the unvaccinated).

What the British are saying is they are now finding the vaccine interferes with your body’s innate ability after infection to produce antibodies against not just the spike protein but other pieces of the virus. Specifically, vaccinated people don’t seem to be producing antibodies to the nucleocapsid protein, the shell of the virus, which are a crucial part of the response in unvaccinated people.

In the long term, people who take the vaccine will be far more vulnerable to any mutations in the spike protein that might come along, even if they have already been infected and recovered once, or more than once.

The unvaccinated, meanwhile, will procure lasting, if not permanent, immunity to all strains of the alleged virus after being infected with it naturally even just once.

Read it for yourself.. Page 24.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... eek-42.pdf
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby daysofourlives » Wed Nov 17, 2021 8:53 am

Booney wrote:People with gallows on the steps of Victoria's parliament house calling for the hanging of Daniel Andrews. Every Australian, vax or anti-vax of any description should denounce that behaviour. We live in a democracy where you will have your opportunity to have your say on his political fate, you don't however have the right to call for his death. Disgusting behaviour.

Bullshit, its exactly what we need, people need to be woken from their slumber, the she'll be right attitude of Australians is what's causing this. If it doesn't effect Aussies personally then we as a rule don't care. We are not passionate about politics like the yanks are. That's why we're the testing ground for the new world order. You are absolutely deluded if you still think we live in a democracy. Andrews is a dictator, make no mistake and he will be hung for his crimes against humanity and treason.
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby The Bedge » Wed Nov 17, 2021 8:54 am

daysofourlives wrote:Andrews is a dictator, make no mistake and he will be hung for his crimes against humanity and treason.

Settle :lol:
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby Armchair expert » Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:05 am

Aerie wrote:I'm still yet to understand the solution if you're Anti-Vax? Constant lockdowns? Thousands upon thousands of deaths? Our hospitals and health systems completely stuffed?

Unless you're a conspiracy theorist or completely selfish because "you'll be ok".

It'll be Vaccines, boosters and restrictions for a long time yet because it's better than the alternative.


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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby Booney » Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:08 am

daysofourlives wrote:
Booney wrote:People with gallows on the steps of Victoria's parliament house calling for the hanging of Daniel Andrews. Every Australian, vax or anti-vax of any description should denounce that behaviour. We live in a democracy where you will have your opportunity to have your say on his political fate, you don't however have the right to call for his death. Disgusting behaviour.

Bullshit, its exactly what we need, people need to be woken from their slumber, the she'll be right attitude of Australians is what's causing this. If it doesn't effect Aussies personally then we as a rule don't care. We are not passionate about politics like the yanks are. That's why we're the testing ground for the new world order. You are absolutely deluded if you still think we live in a democracy. Andrews is a dictator, make no mistake and he will be hung for his crimes against humanity and treason.


The only thing you ever supply evidence to support is how stupid you are.
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby Dutchy » Wed Nov 17, 2021 11:05 am

Haven't seen much about herd immunity of late, once you get it can you get it again?
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby whufc » Wed Nov 17, 2021 11:27 am

The Bedge wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:Andrews is a dictator, make no mistake and he will be hung for his crimes against humanity and treason.

Settle :lol:


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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby shoe boy » Wed Nov 17, 2021 11:35 am

daysofourlives wrote:
Booney wrote:People with gallows on the steps of Victoria's parliament house calling for the hanging of Daniel Andrews. Every Australian, vax or anti-vax of any description should denounce that behaviour. We live in a democracy where you will have your opportunity to have your say on his political fate, you don't however have the right to call for his death. Disgusting behaviour.

Bullshit, its exactly what we need, people need to be woken from their slumber, the she'll be right attitude of Australians is what's causing this. If it doesn't effect Aussies personally then we as a rule don't care. We are not passionate about politics like the yanks are. That's why we're the testing ground for the new world order. You are absolutely deluded if you still think we live in a democracy. Andrews is a dictator, make no mistake and he will be hung for his crimes against humanity and treason.


Wow storm THE AUSTRALIAN PARLIMENT and hang all them dictators. Lets get passionate like those yanks that stormed the US capitol.
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby Jimmy_041 » Wed Nov 17, 2021 1:22 pm

Booney wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:
Booney wrote:People with gallows on the steps of Victoria's parliament house calling for the hanging of Daniel Andrews. Every Australian, vax or anti-vax of any description should denounce that behaviour. We live in a democracy where you will have your opportunity to have your say on his political fate, you don't however have the right to call for his death. Disgusting behaviour.

Bullshit, its exactly what we need, people need to be woken from their slumber, the she'll be right attitude of Australians is what's causing this. If it doesn't effect Aussies personally then we as a rule don't care. We are not passionate about politics like the yanks are. That's why we're the testing ground for the new world order. You are absolutely deluded if you still think we live in a democracy. Andrews is a dictator, make no mistake and he will be hung for his crimes against humanity and treason.


The only thing you ever supply evidence to support is how stupid you are.


You must have missed this:

daysofourlives wrote:Straight from the Government

The British government has spilled the beans about that fact that once you get double jabbed, you will never again be able to acquire full natural immunity.

In its Week 42 “COVID-19 vaccine surveillance report,” the U.K. Health Security Agency admitted on page 23 that “N antibody levels appear to be lower in people who acquire infection following two doses of vaccination.” It goes on to explain that this antibody drop is basically permanent.

What’s this mean?

We know the vaccines do not stop infection or transmission of the virus (in fact, the report shows elsewhere that vaccinated adults are now being infected at much HIGHER rates than the unvaccinated).

What the British are saying is they are now finding the vaccine interferes with your body’s innate ability after infection to produce antibodies against not just the spike protein but other pieces of the virus. Specifically, vaccinated people don’t seem to be producing antibodies to the nucleocapsid protein, the shell of the virus, which are a crucial part of the response in unvaccinated people.

In the long term, people who take the vaccine will be far more vulnerable to any mutations in the spike protein that might come along, even if they have already been infected and recovered once, or more than once.

The unvaccinated, meanwhile, will procure lasting, if not permanent, immunity to all strains of the alleged virus after being infected with it naturally even just once.

Read it for yourself.. Page 24.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... eek-42.pdf
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby jo172 » Wed Nov 17, 2021 1:32 pm

Jimmy_041 wrote:
Booney wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:
Booney wrote:People with gallows on the steps of Victoria's parliament house calling for the hanging of Daniel Andrews. Every Australian, vax or anti-vax of any description should denounce that behaviour. We live in a democracy where you will have your opportunity to have your say on his political fate, you don't however have the right to call for his death. Disgusting behaviour.

Bullshit, its exactly what we need, people need to be woken from their slumber, the she'll be right attitude of Australians is what's causing this. If it doesn't effect Aussies personally then we as a rule don't care. We are not passionate about politics like the yanks are. That's why we're the testing ground for the new world order. You are absolutely deluded if you still think we live in a democracy. Andrews is a dictator, make no mistake and he will be hung for his crimes against humanity and treason.


The only thing you ever supply evidence to support is how stupid you are.


You must have missed this:

daysofourlives wrote:Straight from the Government

The British government has spilled the beans about that fact that once you get double jabbed, you will never again be able to acquire full natural immunity.

In its Week 42 “COVID-19 vaccine surveillance report,” the U.K. Health Security Agency admitted on page 23 that “N antibody levels appear to be lower in people who acquire infection following two doses of vaccination.” It goes on to explain that this antibody drop is basically permanent.

What’s this mean?

We know the vaccines do not stop infection or transmission of the virus (in fact, the report shows elsewhere that vaccinated adults are now being infected at much HIGHER rates than the unvaccinated).

What the British are saying is they are now finding the vaccine interferes with your body’s innate ability after infection to produce antibodies against not just the spike protein but other pieces of the virus. Specifically, vaccinated people don’t seem to be producing antibodies to the nucleocapsid protein, the shell of the virus, which are a crucial part of the response in unvaccinated people.

In the long term, people who take the vaccine will be far more vulnerable to any mutations in the spike protein that might come along, even if they have already been infected and recovered once, or more than once.

The unvaccinated, meanwhile, will procure lasting, if not permanent, immunity to all strains of the alleged virus after being infected with it naturally even just once.

Read it for yourself.. Page 24.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... eek-42.pdf


Except when you read Daisy's link it doesn't come close to saying what he says it does in the post.
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby Booney » Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:10 pm

Jimmy_041 wrote:
Booney wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:
Booney wrote:People with gallows on the steps of Victoria's parliament house calling for the hanging of Daniel Andrews. Every Australian, vax or anti-vax of any description should denounce that behaviour. We live in a democracy where you will have your opportunity to have your say on his political fate, you don't however have the right to call for his death. Disgusting behaviour.

Bullshit, its exactly what we need, people need to be woken from their slumber, the she'll be right attitude of Australians is what's causing this. If it doesn't effect Aussies personally then we as a rule don't care. We are not passionate about politics like the yanks are. That's why we're the testing ground for the new world order. You are absolutely deluded if you still think we live in a democracy. Andrews is a dictator, make no mistake and he will be hung for his crimes against humanity and treason.


The only thing you ever supply evidence to support is how stupid you are.


You must have missed this:

daysofourlives wrote:Straight from the Government

The British government has spilled the beans about that fact that once you get double jabbed, you will never again be able to acquire full natural immunity.

In its Week 42 “COVID-19 vaccine surveillance report,” the U.K. Health Security Agency admitted on page 23 that “N antibody levels appear to be lower in people who acquire infection following two doses of vaccination.” It goes on to explain that this antibody drop is basically permanent.

What’s this mean?

We know the vaccines do not stop infection or transmission of the virus (in fact, the report shows elsewhere that vaccinated adults are now being infected at much HIGHER rates than the unvaccinated).

What the British are saying is they are now finding the vaccine interferes with your body’s innate ability after infection to produce antibodies against not just the spike protein but other pieces of the virus. Specifically, vaccinated people don’t seem to be producing antibodies to the nucleocapsid protein, the shell of the virus, which are a crucial part of the response in unvaccinated people.

In the long term, people who take the vaccine will be far more vulnerable to any mutations in the spike protein that might come along, even if they have already been infected and recovered once, or more than once.

The unvaccinated, meanwhile, will procure lasting, if not permanent, immunity to all strains of the alleged virus after being infected with it naturally even just once.

Read it for yourself.. Page 24.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... eek-42.pdf


Click the link.

Read pages 22-24 ( Page 24 has not context without the previous pages ).

I'm all ears on your thoughts.
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby Jim05 » Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:50 pm

VFL and NAB league now mandated jabs and the AFL has written to the SANFL and WAFL to “suggest” they do the same
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby The Bedge » Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:58 pm

Jim05 wrote:VFL and NAB league now mandated jabs and the AFL has written to the SANFL and WAFL to “suggest” they do the same

Interesting, AdFL will take their direction from the SANFL - if they mandate, then you'd expect that would flow on to community level.
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby Jim05 » Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:22 pm

The Bedge wrote:
Jim05 wrote:VFL and NAB league now mandated jabs and the AFL has written to the SANFL and WAFL to “suggest” they do the same

Interesting, AdFL will take their direction from the SANFL - if they mandate, then you'd expect that would flow on to community level.
The AFL are pretty much demanding that other comps agree to it as they don’t want AFL listed players playing in unvaccinated comps.
Might be a way to get rid of the two cancers from the comp :)
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby gazzamagoo » Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:27 pm

Jim05 wrote:
The Bedge wrote:
Jim05 wrote:VFL and NAB league now mandated jabs and the AFL has written to the SANFL and WAFL to “suggest” they do the same

Interesting, AdFL will take their direction from the SANFL - if they mandate, then you'd expect that would flow on to community level.
The AFL are pretty much demanding that other comps agree to it as they don’t want AFL listed players playing in unvaccinated comps.
Might be a way to get rid of the two cancers from the comp :)


Yeah right, The SANFL will cave in, it's spineless.
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby The Bedge » Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:38 pm

If states are at like 90% double vac rate, then why do AFL players (or other athletes) need to be vaccinated? What’s the risk?
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby jo172 » Wed Nov 17, 2021 4:07 pm

The Bedge wrote:If states are at like 90% double vac rate, then why do AFL players (or other athletes) need to be vaccinated? What’s the risk?


It becomes statistically more likely that an AFL player will get it, which makes it statistically more likely other AFL players will get it. If too many AFL players have it it jeopardises the orderly operation of the competition.

Ultimately, it's a risk management tool
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