Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby RB » Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:30 pm

The Bedge wrote:Is a sexting scandal really a valid reason to omit someone from the side?
If it was consensual, as they say, then I'm not sure it is. If he hadn't had a wife at the time, nobody would be talking about it.

I don't think that marital infidelity should in itself rule you out of selection.
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:35 pm

I'll sit on the fence here, it was over an 18 hour period and it was consensual, if she didn't get the arse last week it would never have come to light.

At a guess she had CA over a barrel and the TCA, they finally succumbed and sacked her knowing the outcome, the chick has form by the sounds of it.

Main points here:
* He should've known better.
* CA couldn't afford another black mark against their name at that point and tried to cover it up.
* They should've had the balls to come clean at the time.

Losing captaincy over it? Yes in my book.
Being dropped because of it? No, the captaincy is enough.
Being dropped if he isn't the best keeper going around atm? Yes, question B is redundant.
Is he in my XI? Yes, no one else is belting down the door.
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby The Bedge » Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:36 pm

If it's "bad enough" to lose captaincy over, then it should be "bad enough" to prevent captaincy in the first place.
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:39 pm

The Bedge wrote:If it's "bad enough" to lose captaincy over, then it should be "bad enough" to prevent captaincy in the first place.
Correct

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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby amber_fluid » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:03 pm

I’m guessing he won’t need Rishabh Pant to babysit his kids when they play India again given he’ll be unemployed now.
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby whufc » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:57 pm

Not sure how Australia picks a cricket side in ten years time

Reckon every single 16 year old male in this country has sent some chick a dic pic
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby amber_fluid » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:54 pm

whufc wrote:Not sure how Australia picks a cricket side in ten years time

Reckon every single 16 year old male in this country has sent some chick a dic pic


That’s s a bit different to a 30+ year old married man with kids doing it though.
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby stan » Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:28 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:I'll sit on the fence here, it was over an 18 hour period and it was consensual, if she didn't get the arse last week it would never have come to light.

At a guess she had CA over a barrel and the TCA, they finally succumbed and sacked her knowing the outcome, the chick has form by the sounds of it.

Main points here:
* He should've known better.
* CA couldn't afford another black mark against their name at that point and tried to cover it up.
* They should've had the balls to come clean at the time.

Losing captaincy over it? Yes in my book.
Being dropped because of it? No, the captaincy is enough.
Being dropped if he isn't the best keeper going around atm? Yes, question B is redundant.
Is he in my XI? Yes, no one else is belting down the door.
Well I mean your getting sacked and you have a dick pic of the Australian Captain and still can't keep your job then no idea what will.
Read my reply. It is directed at you because you have double standards
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby tigerpie » Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:21 am

The Bedge wrote:Is a sexting scandal really a valid reason to omit someone from the side?

In this case I don't think so.
You can't be punished for the same crime twice can you?
It was dealt with 4 years ago.
Made a poor decision that cost him the captaincy for an ashes series. No greater honour in cricket.

But I don't think he's in our best xi if he's not captain anyway.
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Nov 23, 2021 9:00 am

stan wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:I'll sit on the fence here, it was over an 18 hour period and it was consensual, if she didn't get the arse last week it would never have come to light.

At a guess she had CA over a barrel and the TCA, they finally succumbed and sacked her knowing the outcome, the chick has form by the sounds of it.

Main points here:
* He should've known better.
* CA couldn't afford another black mark against their name at that point and tried to cover it up.
* They should've had the balls to come clean at the time.

Losing captaincy over it? Yes in my book.
Being dropped because of it? No, the captaincy is enough.
Being dropped if he isn't the best keeper going around atm? Yes, question B is redundant.
Is he in my XI? Yes, no one else is belting down the door.
Well I mean your getting sacked and you have a dick pic of the Australian Captain and still can't keep your job then no idea what will.


If she's hotter than Paine's missus then I wanna see her, I'll send her my number.
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Nov 23, 2021 9:01 am

tigerpie wrote:
The Bedge wrote:Is a sexting scandal really a valid reason to omit someone from the side?

In this case I don't think so.
You can't be punished for the same crime twice can you?
It was dealt with 4 years ago.
Made a poor decision that cost him the captaincy for an ashes series. No greater honour in cricket.

But I don't think he's in our best xi if he's not captain anyway.


This is the deciding factor.

Who is in your opinion?
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby tigerpie » Tue Nov 23, 2021 9:11 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
tigerpie wrote:
The Bedge wrote:Is a sexting scandal really a valid reason to omit someone from the side?

In this case I don't think so.
You can't be punished for the same crime twice can you?
It was dealt with 4 years ago.
Made a poor decision that cost him the captaincy for an ashes series. No greater honour in cricket.

But I don't think he's in our best xi if he's not captain anyway.


This is the deciding factor.

Who is in your opinion?

I think Carey's bided his time and paid his dues so I think he deserves it.
He'll make a test 100 no doubt.
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Nov 23, 2021 9:38 am

tigerpie wrote:I think Carey's bided his time and paid his dues so I think he deserves it.
He'll make a test 100 no doubt.


As much as I love the guy, I don't think he has, two years ago yes, not at the moment for mine.
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby The Bedge » Tue Nov 23, 2021 9:55 am

A player who seems to have dropped off the radar recent years - Travis Dean - is he worth being in consideration? Peeled off another 100 and carried his bat, bloke seems to constantly be making big scores.
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby Booney » Tue Nov 23, 2021 9:56 am

The Bedge wrote:If it's "bad enough" to lose captaincy over, then it should be "bad enough" to prevent captaincy in the first place.



That’s why this is as much on CA as it is Paine himself.

They were in a bind and they needed someone to dig them out of the sandpaper debacle and Paine was the man for the job. The fact they were willing to hide this when they knew it would eventually come out is a blight on them, another blight I should say. They full well knew it’s not a look becoming the captain of the Australian cricket team but were willing to over look it to make their lives easier at the time. The heat right now should be on CA.
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Nov 23, 2021 9:59 am

Booney wrote:
The Bedge wrote:If it's "bad enough" to lose captaincy over, then it should be "bad enough" to prevent captaincy in the first place.



That’s why this is as much on CA as it is Paine himself.

They were in a bind and they needed someone to dig them out of the sandpaper debacle and Paine was the man for the job. The fact they were willing to hide this when they knew it would eventually come out is a blight on them, another blight I should say. They full well knew it’s not a look becoming the captain of the Australian cricket team but were willing to over look it to make their lives easier at the time. The heat right now should be on CA.

Rod Paine will be keeping in the first test.
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby Down the Hill » Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:18 am

Paine took 6 catches yesterday for Tas 2nd's v SA 2nd's so presumably has fully recovered from the neck injury. Our lads were rolled for 165 with McSweeney making 96* of them.
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby RB » Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:45 am

The Bedge wrote:A player who seems to have dropped off the radar recent years - Travis Dean - is he worth being in consideration? Peeled off another 100 and carried his bat, bloke seems to constantly be making big scores.
I've followed this bloke's scores over the years. Probably worthy of being in the conversation while he's making scores, yes, but he tends to follow them up with plenty of ducks as well.

He has a batting average of 31 after 50+ Shield games. At 29 he probably isn't going to get any better. Having said that, like anyone, if he starts really making runs then absolutely he should be in contention.
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby The Dark Knight » Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:29 pm

RB wrote:
The Bedge wrote:A player who seems to have dropped off the radar recent years - Travis Dean - is he worth being in consideration? Peeled off another 100 and carried his bat, bloke seems to constantly be making big scores.
I've followed this bloke's scores over the years. Probably worthy of being in the conversation while he's making scores, yes, but he tends to follow them up with plenty of ducks as well.

He has a batting average of 31 after 50+ Shield games. At 29 he probably isn't going to get any better. Having said that, like anyone, if he starts really making runs then absolutely he should be in contention.
Dean has only just got back into the Victorian side replacing Marcus Harris as Harris has left Victoria to prepare for the Ashes.
Dean played two matches last season making 41 runs at 13.67, four matches in 19/20 making 322 runs at 40.25 and in 18/19 he played 11 matches making 364 runs at 19.16 and it was then that he lost his spot as the regular opener after a run of bad form.
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby Rik E Boy » Tue Nov 23, 2021 1:23 pm

Booney wrote:
The Bedge wrote:If it's "bad enough" to lose captaincy over, then it should be "bad enough" to prevent captaincy in the first place.



That’s why this is as much on CA as it is Paine himself.

They were in a bind and they needed someone to dig them out of the sandpaper debacle and Paine was the man for the job. The fact they were willing to hide this when they knew it would eventually come out is a blight on them, another blight I should say. They full well knew it’s not a look becoming the captain of the Australian cricket team but were willing to over look it to make their lives easier at the time. The heat right now should be on CA.


CA are a disgrace and always have been. They are a major contributor to the culture of Australian Cricket and as a corporation their first responsibility is to their shareholders and not the game itself. The Australian Cricket Board, for all it's faults, was at least a semi-representative body that would have electable state representatives to and whether you agreed with their decisions or not, their first priority was the game. With members of the cricket association having the rights to vote on who represents them, you could argue that it was the public that owned the game. Now a corporation does and it clearly hasn't ushered in a golden age of cricket.

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