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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby Minimum Chips » Thu Nov 25, 2021 8:58 am

the smokey wrote:
Aerie wrote:The professional chose his club knowing full well the conditions.

It worked out alright for Wade and Paine in the end.

Maybe our cricketers need to make more professional choices?


Hahahahahah such a strange comment!! and all this shows is that once again a grade club places their own interests above the SACA's. Don't get me wrong there are many issues at the SACA as well, but the competition is never going to improve and therefore never develop the next lot of state cricketers while this continues to occur

Just an observation and I'm all for wanting to see the Redbacks perform strongly, and whilst I agree with developing cricketers for higher honours, could it be that a lot of the clubs have had a gutful of the arrogant attitude of some of those in the HP set up, and of some of those at the SACA in general? Could this be some clubs giving a middle finger up at SACA and in an unorthodox way hoping for some genuine change there, and not some token moves coming out of the Hussey review (i.e. appointing a chairman of selectors who in reality only does what he is told)?
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby Tony Clifton » Thu Nov 25, 2021 9:07 am

Minimum Chips wrote:Just an observation and I'm all for wanting to see the Redbacks perform strongly, and whilst I agree with developing cricketers for higher honours, could it be that a lot of the clubs have had a gutful of the arrogant attitude of some of those in the HP set up, and of some of those at the SACA in general? Could this be some clubs giving a middle finger up at SACA and in an unorthodox way hoping for some genuine change there, and not some token moves coming out of the Hussey review (i.e. appointing a chairman of selectors who in reality only does what he is told)?

Regardless of the reasoning, it's an indication of a completely broken system
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby Tony Clifton » Thu Nov 25, 2021 9:11 am

the smokey wrote:
Aerie wrote:The professional chose his club knowing full well the conditions.

It worked out alright for Wade and Paine in the end.

Maybe our cricketers need to make more professional choices?


Hahahahahah such a strange comment!! and all this shows is that once again a grade club places their own interests above the SACA's. Don't get me wrong there are many issues at the SACA as well, but the competition is never going to improve and therefore never develop the next lot of state cricketers while this continues to occur

Blame always gets apportioned too

Grade clubs blame the SACA coaches and selectors

SACA blames having too many grade clubs and can't change it

Not being able to keep is apparently Nielsen's fault for choosing to go to West Torrens

No one takes responsibility for their patch
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby the smokey » Thu Nov 25, 2021 10:46 am

Tony Clifton wrote:
the smokey wrote:
Aerie wrote:The professional chose his club knowing full well the conditions.

It worked out alright for Wade and Paine in the end.

Maybe our cricketers need to make more professional choices?


Hahahahahah such a strange comment!! and all this shows is that once again a grade club places their own interests above the SACA's. Don't get me wrong there are many issues at the SACA as well, but the competition is never going to improve and therefore never develop the next lot of state cricketers while this continues to occur

Blame always gets apportioned too

Grade clubs blame the SACA coaches and selectors

SACA blames having too many grade clubs and can't change it

Not being able to keep is apparently Nielsen's fault for choosing to go to West Torrens

No one takes responsibility for their patch


Absolutely Spot on. There is no way that this will ever be rectified which is why I believe that the comp needs a complete overhaul.
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby Aerie » Thu Nov 25, 2021 11:56 am

FWIW I completely agree that Nielsen should be keeping whenever he is playing Grade Cricket. Even if he is currently in the Redbacks as a batsman - if/when Carey gets selected for Australia, Nielsen is next in line.

I am questioning whether it was a good decision by Nielsen to approach West Torrens to come and play to be playing with friends at the expense of being first choice keeper. Remembering he was knocked back the season before for the same reason.

I can understand West Torrens taking Nielsen if he was happy to play 2nd fiddle to Peters, as he is a gun batsman, he was a junior at the club, has good mates playing and his Dad is a club legend. It would be presumed Nielsen would only be available for a couple of games given his schedule as a First Class and BBL cricketer. That also being the reason to keep Peters.

Maybe West Torrens has taken it's cake and eaten it too with regards to signing Nielsen on, but at the end of the day, it is the professional cricketer himself that has chosen to put himself in this position and maybe this is a reflection of the culture at the Redbacks.

Then again, like I said earlier, it worked out ok for Wade and Paine, who were both playing for Tasmania. And maybe it isn't such a big deal, because Nielsen probably will only play a couple of games at WT this season. Plus, Peters and Nielsen seemed pretty happy sharing the role and playing together in a big win on the weekend. Perhaps there's nothing to see here.
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby Eagles2014 » Fri Nov 26, 2021 8:12 am

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maxi wrote:
wedgetail wrote:Carrington (WT) joining Adelaide. Promised top 4 batting spot apparently.


Smart move opportunity would have been limited at Torrens


Always amazes me how Clubs promise the world to young kids with parents who think their child is the next Steve Smith. To say you will bat Top 4 all year no matter what is irresponsible. What happens when he makes four ducks in a row, or he doesn’t turn up to a game because he is hungover from a big night out, or still got drugs in his system from the big party on the Saturday night before a Sat/Sun match? This will end in tears :shock:

Pretty salty response

That's what happens. When clubs go on a recruiting spree that's fine but it pushes existing players out.


Don't want to say told you so, but..... :shock:

Started batting No.4, pushed down to No. 6, now dropped to 2nd Grade. Not like he is in a strong side either with Adelaide struggling at the moment.

That's why Clubs should not promise the world to kids, it never works out. That was the point I was making back then! Maybe the Dad will take him to Souherns now :shock:
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby ferret » Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:20 pm

Yes. Southerns are closer to schoolies!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby Shark_Hunter » Sat Nov 27, 2021 6:31 pm

Another 180* for Drew today against a more than decent Woodville attack. Surely time for the Redbacks to give him another shot after their recent batting efforts.
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby billy » Sat Nov 27, 2021 8:44 pm

That might be difficult ... they wouldn't recognise class and weight transfer and decent wrists and athletic talent if it bit them on the proverbial.
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby Eagles2014 » Sun Nov 28, 2021 12:01 am

Shark_Hunter wrote:Another 180* for Drew today against a more than decent Woodville attack. Surely time for the Redbacks to give him another shot after their recent batting efforts.


He should be playing tomorrow, for him to not get added to squad ahead of Lehmann and Tom Kelly is a joke.

As this is the last game for Redbacks till next February he has a fair wait, by then they will just stick with the current team. Can’t see him getting a gig unfortunately :shock:
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby Minimum Chips » Sun Nov 28, 2021 7:26 am

Eagles2014 wrote:
Shark_Hunter wrote:Another 180* for Drew today against a more than decent Woodville attack. Surely time for the Redbacks to give him another shot after their recent batting efforts.


He should be playing tomorrow, for him to not get added to squad ahead of Lehmann and Tom Kelly is a joke.

As this is the last game for Redbacks till next February he has a fair wait, by then they will just stick with the current team. Can’t see him getting a gig unfortunately :shock:

Has Drew upset someone at the Redbacks (maybe Nielsen who controls everything there)? I’d have him instead of Lehmann. Kelly should be given an opportunity as players like him and Drew have more upside than Lehmann. They need to pick guys who are in form and unfortunately by the time the shield starts again Drew may be out of form (hopefully not) and he’ll get ignored again.
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby Aerie » Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:02 am

A few of the Grade clubs would beat the Redbacks at the moment.

When someone is in the form that Drew is in and the batting has been so hopeless for the Redbacks, give him a go. His style is suited perfectly to the 50-over game.

This is typical of the Redbacks. They are just a hopeless organisation.
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby tigerpie » Sun Nov 28, 2021 11:18 am

How Pope is still getting a game is beyond me?
The only constant they should have at selection is pick players in form.
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby The Dark Knight » Sun Nov 28, 2021 12:09 pm

tigerpie wrote:How Pope is still getting a game is beyond me?
The only constant they should have at selection is pick players in form.
Drew in Pope out!
Who are the other spinners that SA can pick if they drop Pope?
Kerber?
Medew-Ewen?
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby Armchair expert » Sun Nov 28, 2021 1:38 pm

The Dark Knight wrote:
tigerpie wrote:How Pope is still getting a game is beyond me?
The only constant they should have at selection is pick players in form.
Drew in Pope out!
Who are the other spinners that SA can pick if they drop Pope?
Kerber?
Medew-Ewen?


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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby whufc » Mon Nov 29, 2021 11:27 am

Had to stir up a good mate Tommy Harslett. Debuted for Woodville on the weekend to watch West Torrens hit 400. His in for a debut when he goes out to bat on this weekend.
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby The Bedge » Mon Nov 29, 2021 11:39 am

The Dark Knight wrote:Who are the other spinners that SA can pick if they drop Pope?

Who says they need to pick a spinner?

I'd be happy with another all-rounder who bowls meds, or a specialist middle order bat and rely on Head to bowl a few.
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby am Bays » Mon Nov 29, 2021 11:40 am

Aerie wrote:A few of the Grade clubs would beat the Redbacks at the moment.

When someone is in the form that Drew is in and the batting has been so hopeless for the Redbacks, give him a go. His style is suited perfectly to the 50-over game.

This is typical of the Redbacks. They are just a hopeless organisation.


They are a function/reflective of Cricket in SA generally
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby The Dark Knight » Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:24 pm

The Bedge wrote:
The Dark Knight wrote:Who are the other spinners that SA can pick if they drop Pope?

Who says they need to pick a spinner?

I'd be happy with another all-rounder who bowls meds, or a specialist middle order bat and rely on Head to bowl a few.

They'll want a spinner if the conditions suit and to have some variety in the attack I guess?

Previously (before Pope was a regular in the side) SA did go with 4 quicks and Head to bowl a fair bit for a little while.
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby The Dark Knight » Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:24 pm

The Bedge wrote:
The Dark Knight wrote:Who are the other spinners that SA can pick if they drop Pope?

Who says they need to pick a spinner?

I'd be happy with another all-rounder who bowls meds, or a specialist middle order bat and rely on Head to bowl a few.

They'll want a spinner if the conditions suit and to have some variety in the attack I guess?

Previously (before Pope was a regular in the side) SA did go with 4 quicks and Head to bowl a fair bit for a little while.
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