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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby Armchair expert » Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:52 pm

Boland is the best bowler in history
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby mal » Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:54 pm

The Dark Knight wrote:
Dutchy wrote:time to bring in Mitch Marsh for Green? Only 31 and in the peak of his form, plays spin really well. Gives green a chance to go back and work on his game and come back even better. Cant see us going into any tests in the near future without an allrounder.

My initial thought of the 30 year old Mitch Marsh was that whilst he has improved against spin (and batting overall) he had struggled against spin in his 32 test matches so I had a look into it.

Has a career average of 25.20, against spin he averaged 21.75 being dismissed 20 times compared to pace where we was dismissed 30 times with an average of 24.80.

In Asia he has played 9 mtaches, made 405 runs at an average of 22.50 with 2 fifties.

Against India he has played 5 matches, made 165 runs at an average of 18.33. 2 of those tests were in India where he made 48 runs in 4 innings with a highest score of 31.

Against Pakistan in the UAE he has played 4 matches, made 194 runs at an average of 24.25 with a highest score of 87.

Against Sri Lanka in Sri Lanka he has played 3 matches, made 163 runs at average of 27.16 and has a highest score of 53.

Looking towards Australia's Pakistan Tour (if it still goes ahead) I'm not sure dropping Green for Marsh for that series to bat at 6 would be beneficial given Marsh's previous result against spin and in spin friendly conditions and I feel as though the Australian selectors and management will give extra opportunities for Green to come good like they did when Marsh started test cricket. (This is not to say I'm interested to see how Marsh would go in test cricket now.)


Im a Mitch Marsh fan, however his great form is mostly in 20/20 cricket
As much as i LOVE 20/20 cricket, it is not a true guide for 5 day cricket
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby The Dark Knight » Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:54 pm

am Bays wrote:
The Dark Knight wrote:Speaking of Healy, Carey is wearing the limited edition dark green Kookaburra keeping gloves that Ian Healy wore throughout his career, looks like Kookaburra have gone retro with not just the Bubble bats that Labuschagne and Carey are using but Wicket keeping gloves too as a part of their Ashes tribute.

Didn't help him with that drop though, hard to defend him there but like Cameron Green he's not going anywhere at the moment.


Not quite the gloves being worn by Carey were only worn by Healy between 1993-97 (bookended by the two England tours)

1997-98 to end of his career, same gloves but had yellow palm rubber... (I still have my version of these gloves they are the ones I wore when 'keeping to Warney ;) )

Prior to 1993 Healy wore the Rod Marsh Gold 100s...

If you're going to talk Kookaburra Keeping gloves - Facts boys, facts....

Well sorry, I didn't realise I was talking to Wicket keeping royalty. ;) You were obviously a handy keeper if you kept to Shane Warne ;)

The gloves Carey is wearing are actually part of a promotion.
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby Trader » Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:56 pm

The Dark Knight wrote:Has a career average of 25.20, against spin he averaged 21.75 being dismissed 20 times compared to pace where we was dismissed 30 times with an average of 24.80.


Something wrong with those stats.

Averaging 21.75 against spin with 20 dismissals = 435 runs
Averaging 24.8 against pace with 30 dismissals = 744 runs
A total of 1179 runs.

With 50 dismissals combined, and a career average of 25.2 = 1260 runs.

So either he's made 81 runs against bowling other than spin or pace, or the stats aren't quite right.
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby Bombers4EVA » Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:57 pm

I reckon Jye Richardson will be quietly a bit worried here. With how good Boland is bowling at the moment,
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby stampy » Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:57 pm

BAROSSA 8/7 WTF!!!
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby whufc » Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:58 pm

Bombers4EVA wrote:I reckon Jye Richardson will be quietly a bit worried here. With how good Boland is bowling at the moment,


What about when Hazelwood is fit...…...how can you drop Boland :D
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby mal » Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:59 pm

TDK

Ive faced a guy that has coached Shane Warne , that was Terry Jenner in net sessions
Does that make me an expert in leg spin ? ...
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby Brodlach » Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:00 pm

The Dark Knight wrote:
am Bays wrote:
The Dark Knight wrote:Speaking of Healy, Carey is wearing the limited edition dark green Kookaburra keeping gloves that Ian Healy wore throughout his career, looks like Kookaburra have gone retro with not just the Bubble bats that Labuschagne and Carey are using but Wicket keeping gloves too as a part of their Ashes tribute.

Didn't help him with that drop though, hard to defend him there but like Cameron Green he's not going anywhere at the moment.


Not quite the gloves being worn by Carey were only worn by Healy between 1993-97 (bookended by the two England tours)

1997-98 to end of his career, same gloves but had yellow palm rubber... (I still have my version of these gloves they are the ones I wore when 'keeping to Warney ;) )

Prior to 1993 Healy wore the Rod Marsh Gold 100s...

If you're going to talk Kookaburra Keeping gloves - Facts boys, facts....

Well sorry, I didn't realise I was talking to Wicket keeping royalty. ;) You were obviously a handy keeper if you kept to Shane Warne ;)

The gloves Carey is wearing are actually part of a promotion.
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Only you would have even noticed that, your cricket knowledge is outstanding
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby Armchair expert » Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:01 pm

Could this be considered bullying?
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby whufc » Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:03 pm

What a session!!!

Well done Green and Boland 3/0
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby Brodlach » Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:03 pm

mal wrote:TDK

Ive faced a guy that has coached Shane Warne , that was Terry Jenner in net sessions
Does that make me an expert in leg spin ? ...


Mal how did you go when you bowled to Victor Trumper?
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby stampy » Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:08 pm

Brodlach wrote:
mal wrote:TDK

Ive faced a guy that has coached Shane Warne , that was Terry Jenner in net sessions
Does that make me an expert in leg spin ? ...


Mal how did you go when you bowled to Victor Trumper?


:D :D think VT was after mals time!!
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby Bombers4EVA » Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:09 pm

England really want to have 2 days off for sight seeing lol. Maybe they want to spend days 4 and 5 at Bondi lol.
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby DOC » Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:09 pm

mal wrote:TDK

Ive faced a guy that has coached Shane Warne , that was Terry Jenner in net sessions
Does that make me an expert in leg spin ? ...


As in :

X= unknown quantity
Spurt= a drip under pressure
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby mal » Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:10 pm

Brodlach wrote:
mal wrote:TDK

Ive faced a guy that has coached Shane Warne , that was Terry Jenner in net sessions
Does that make me an expert in leg spin ? ...


Mal how did you go when you bowled to Victor Trumper?


Victor was one of the nicest cricketers you could ever meet
He used to run a shop, when us kids used to visit , he would give us stuff for free
In all sincerity he was king of the kids
He ran a business like a charity

Clem Hill, Victor Trumper , Ernie Jones , George Giffen
They were my idols growing up

George Giffen is the reason I barrack for Norwood
In 1878 Norwood Beat South , from memory 1 goal to nil
George had blisters from his boots, and discarded them
He kicked Norwoods first goal ever barefoot !


Ah those were the days
Ernie Jones bowling a ball thru W G Grace's beard
All us kids back then wanted to grow beards

Those were the daze
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby The Dark Knight » Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:10 pm

Trader wrote:
The Dark Knight wrote:Has a career average of 25.20, against spin he averaged 21.75 being dismissed 20 times compared to pace where we was dismissed 30 times with an average of 24.80.

Something wrong with those stats.

Averaging 21.75 against spin with 20 dismissals = 435 runs
Averaging 24.8 against pace with 30 dismissals = 744 runs
A total of 1179 runs.

With 50 dismissals combined, and a career average of 25.2 = 1260 runs.

So either he's made 81 runs against bowling other than spin or pace, or the stats aren't quite right.

I can't find the total amount of runs Marsh has scored against both spin and pace on ESPN Cricinfo for them to get those averages, they don't seem to display it.

You crunch the numbers and analyse better than anyone on here Trade, could you find what they've done with those 81 runs? Maybe Marsh has faced bowlers that Cricinfo hadn't classified as pace or spin?
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby The Dark Knight » Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:13 pm

mal wrote:TDK

Ive faced a guy that has coached Shane Warne , that was Terry Jenner in net sessions
Does that make me an expert in leg spin ? ...
I'm not sure Mal, you better ask AM Bays. ;)
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby Senor Moto Gadili » Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:14 pm

I'm sure the selectors will stick with Green in the short term, but he's a long way off being a front line bowler that can churn out 20 overs in a day and back up again day after day. In the Adelaide test they didn't even want him to bowl at all in the second innings. As he matures that may change, but until then the selectors will not want to overload his bowling effort.
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby am Bays » Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:18 pm

The Dark Knight wrote:
am Bays wrote:
Not quite the gloves being worn by Carey were only worn by Healy between 1993-97 (bookended by the two England tours)

1997-98 to end of his career, same gloves but had yellow palm rubber... (I still have my version of these gloves they are the ones I wore when 'keeping to Warney ;) )

Prior to 1993 Healy wore the Rod Marsh Gold 100s...

If you're going to talk Kookaburra Keeping gloves - Facts boys, facts....

Well sorry, I didn't realise I was talking to Wicket keeping royalty. ;) You were obviously a handy keeper if you kept to Shane Warne ;)

The gloves Carey is wearing are actually part of a promotion.
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:lol: :lol:

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