Trader wrote:RB wrote:Periodic reminder of vaxxed v unvaxxed ICU admissions: currently in NSW, you are 13 times more likely to be admitted to ICU with COVID-19 if you're not vaccinated (2 jabs)
I would still like to see some stats around the underlying health of those in ICU.
Round numbers, hard to give exacts when the stats aren't released, but lets estimate a few things...
90% double vaxxed, 10% unjabbed.
Of those 10%, lets split it 1/3 health reasons they can't get jabbed (ie: recent cancer treatments, existing heart conditions, etc), 1/3 anti-vaxxer, 1/3 lazy.
Lets focus on that 3.3% who have underlying health issues.
Before they were 3.3% out of the entire population. Now they are 3.3 out of 10 in the unvaxxed category, or 33%. A ten fold increase.
Now lets say of those who end up in ICU from catching covid, what are the odds you're more likely to end up in ICU if you had an underlying health issue? I'd suggest fairly bloody good, but who actually knows given they don't give us any stats around it.
Yes unvaxxed people are overrepresented in ICU, but is that cause covid has a greater impact on the unvaxxed? Or is it because those with underlying heath issues are overrepresented in the portion of the population that is unvaxxed?
I don't know the answer, but I'm not keen to blindly trust the politicians given their recent form...
June: Get jabbed, it gives you 100% protection.
August: Ok, not 100, but still Get Jabbed, it gives you 85% protection.
October: ok lets not quote figures anymore, it might stop you catching it.
November: ok you can still catch it, Get jabbed anyway, it might stop you spreading it.
December: Sorry, its wearing off, get jabbed several more times.
January: Ok you still catch and spread it at the same rate as the unvaxxed, but still, Get jabbed, it reduces hospital visits.
What's next: Get jabbed, you'll still die, but at least you go to heaven?
They told us it stopped you catching it, it didn't.
They told us it stopped you spreading it, it didn't.
They told us it keeps you out of ICU, does it?
Their constant changing of message means I don't trust them anymore, and when I can formulate an hypothesis that the overrepresentation of unvaxxed in ICU might be reflective of the fact that there is an overrepresentation of people with underlying health issues in the unvaxxed portion of society, then Ill continue to question if the vax does what they are telling us it does.