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Re: Port Adelaide 2022

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Wed Apr 20, 2022 3:56 pm

Booney wrote:Every Cats fan knows it's Thompsons, the 10 years since proves it.
Correct

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Re: Port Adelaide 2022

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Wed Apr 20, 2022 3:59 pm

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Booney wrote:Every Cats fan knows it's Thompsons, the 10 years since proves it.

I don’t buy that. If the team was so “ready made” why didn’t they win it in 2008 & 2010?
2008 we were outplayed when it mattered.
2010 our 2 finals losses were to teams that also got us in the minor round. And St Kilda were probably the best team on 09/10.

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Re: Port Adelaide 2022

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Wed Apr 20, 2022 4:00 pm

DOC wrote:
Booney wrote:
Rik E Boy wrote:
Booney wrote:Every Cats fan knows it's Thompsons, the 10 years since proves it.


Bullshit. Thompson ran his race at Geelong in 2010. Scott came in and we won that flag without arguably the best player in the league.

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I thought this thread was about Port bashing not Geelong bashing?
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Re: Port Adelaide 2022

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Apr 20, 2022 4:02 pm

17 teams fail every year, most of them go into the season knowing that they are unlikely to win it, most supporters are fine with that and accept what it is and hope their team is competitive from week to week snaring the occasional upset win.

We have a coach who repeatedly announces that "This is our Year" or "We will win 3 flags in the next 5 years", yeah it's great to be positive but you need to deliver, our squad has been good enough for some time, even in 2018 & 2019 we had momentum and then fell apart when it counted the most.

The windows aren't open forever and the comp isn't designed for sustainability unless you are selling a quality product to the players who will be willing to play for you while getting paid unders.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2022

Postby Ronnie » Wed Apr 20, 2022 4:21 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:17 teams fail every year, most of them go into the season knowing that they are unlikely to win it, most supporters are fine with that and accept what it is and hope their team is competitive from week to week snaring the occasional upset win.

We have a coach who repeatedly announces that "This is our Year" or "We will win 3 flags in the next 5 years", yeah it's great to be positive but you need to deliver, our squad has been good enough for some time, even in 2018 & 2019 we had momentum and then fell apart when it counted the most.

The windows aren't open forever and the comp isn't designed for sustainability unless you are selling a quality product to the players who will be willing to play for you while getting paid unders.


True, but in seems in the case of Port that there is that extra pressure because there is that solid cohort of older supporters who think they will dominate like the SANFL days or at least win a flag every so often. It's a painful transition in some ways to the AFL.
It's now 25 years in the AFL for one flag, that calculation is starting to really grind down a lot of their supporters.
So the supporter has to come to terms with their AFL record, not being what it perhaps should be. It's a professional league, more teams, more variables like an uneven draw. and up against teams with vastly more financial resources than what Port has. None of those factors worried them in the SANFL. On the other side certain equalizations policies mean premierships can be won by just about anyone when they get their act together.
The South Australian teams too tend to be at a disadvantage, in the sense that no big names can be recruited to Adelaide generally.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2022

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Apr 20, 2022 4:26 pm

Ronnie wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:17 teams fail every year, most of them go into the season knowing that they are unlikely to win it, most supporters are fine with that and accept what it is and hope their team is competitive from week to week snaring the occasional upset win.

We have a coach who repeatedly announces that "This is our Year" or "We will win 3 flags in the next 5 years", yeah it's great to be positive but you need to deliver, our squad has been good enough for some time, even in 2018 & 2019 we had momentum and then fell apart when it counted the most.

The windows aren't open forever and the comp isn't designed for sustainability unless you are selling a quality product to the players who will be willing to play for you while getting paid unders.


True, but in seems in the case of Port that there is that extra pressure because there is that solid cohort of older supporters who think they will dominate like the SANFL days or at least win a flag every so often. It's a painful transition in some ways to the AFL.
It's now 25 years in the AFL for one flag, that calculation is starting to really grind down a lot of their supporters.
So the supporter has to come to terms with their AFL record, not being what it perhaps should be. It's a professional league, more teams, more variables like an uneven draw. and up against teams with vastly more financial resources than what Port has. None of those factors worried them in the SANFL. On the other side certain equalizations policies mean premierships can be won by just about anyone when they get their act together.
The South Australian teams too tend to be at a disadvantage, in the sense that no big names can be recruited to Adelaide generally.


I get what you're putting down but I know heaps of Power supporters that never went for Port in the SANFL, or still don't. One premiership in 25 years still gets bums on seats when we're doing well, I guess in today's society people would rather lose by 5 goals opposed to one point, a bit like a premiership, some would rather not even being close than to lose a home prelim when you're favourites.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2022

Postby Dutchy » Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:28 pm

There is a lot of Brad Scott about Ken Hinkley, North and Brad realised they had come to an end in a reasonable way, surely the same happens to Ken at the end of the year
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Re: Port Adelaide 2022

Postby Brodlach » Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:32 pm

They could still go 12-5 and make finals
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Re: Port Adelaide 2022

Postby Spargo » Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:50 pm

Brodlach wrote:They could still go 12-5 and make finals

So could North Melbourne.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2022

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:18 pm

Brodlach wrote:They could still go 12-5 and make finals

You watch them give us hope and then fall just short.

Heck, you guys could end up with a supplementary spot in the 8, given that Melbourne will end up 20-2, Lions not far behind that and I expect the Dogs to find their niché now I reckon 10-11 wins might jag 8th.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2022

Postby whufc » Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:43 am

Brodlach wrote:They could still go 12-5 and make finals


Yeah but is that enough. This is a team in their premiership window who were genuine contenders. Nothing but a GF at very least could be considered a success given their standing in the comp pre season.

To make finals but not a GF would be honourable from where they are but still has to be considered a fail and wasted season.

If not the bar is set to low for a club that exists to win premierships.

Completely different discussion if they were in a rebuild or what have you.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2022

Postby Brodlach » Thu Apr 21, 2022 8:14 am

Got to make finals to win the premiership, anything can happen in finals. Win that many games means momentum
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Re: Port Adelaide 2022

Postby Brodlach » Thu Apr 21, 2022 8:14 am

Spargo wrote:
Brodlach wrote:They could still go 12-5 and make finals

So could North Melbourne.

We all know that ain’t happening
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Re: Port Adelaide 2022

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu Apr 21, 2022 8:34 am

Brodlach wrote:Got to make finals to win the premiership, anything can happen in finals. Win that many games means momentum

Exactly, there's enough huge upsets nowadays to know that anything can happen on any given day.

That's the beauty of Melbourne being favoured so much, they are the hunted and they can become complacent.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2022

Postby whufc » Thu Apr 21, 2022 8:56 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
Brodlach wrote:Got to make finals to win the premiership, anything can happen in finals. Win that many games means momentum

Exactly, there's enough huge upsets nowadays to know that anything can happen on any given day.

That's the beauty of Melbourne being favoured so much, they are the hunted and they can become complacent.


What 1 premiership from outside the top 4 since the induction of the final 8. What people forget as well is that whilst the Bulldogs finished 7 they were only one win out of the top 4. No chance Port will get within a win of the top 4 this year.

Yeah you have to make finals to win the flag but realistically your nothing more than a punchers chance if you don't make the top 4 and then even worse if you cant get a home elimination final.

Winning four finals in a row in modern day AFL is a step to far for 99% of sides.

With Port playing WCE, ST.K (A), WB (H), KANG (A), Geel (A). Even if they play really well there is a fair chance they could still be 3-7.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2022

Postby Vamos » Thu Apr 21, 2022 6:21 pm

Let's try win 1 game first, eh?
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Re: Port Adelaide 2022

Postby Armchair expert » Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:05 pm

I wonder what the pictures Motlop has are of
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Re: Port Adelaide 2022

Postby Spargo » Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:38 pm

Armchair expert wrote:I wonder what the pictures Motlop has are of

The same as Marshall’s…
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Re: Port Adelaide 2022

Postby Jase » Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:19 pm

The eldest girl (9yo) is going to her first Port game with her Grandad this weekend, she has literally been counting down the hours until bounce down...

I hope they win for her sake...

Why she's a Port fan I have no idea, our other daughter is a Cindy Swans fan, yes she calls them Cindy...







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Re: Port Adelaide 2022

Postby Vamos » Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:31 pm

Jase wrote:The eldest girl (9yo) is going to her first Port game with her Grandad this weekend, she has literally been counting down the hours until bounce down...

I hope they win for her sake...

Why she's a Port fan I have no idea, our other daughter is a Cindy Swans fan, yes she calls them Cindy...


Nice. Hope the boys get the win and she loves it. I took my lad to his first game v GC, their first win in the AFL :roll:
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